Does anyone else have trouble consistently getting the same delay? Because most complaints I see are about offset. I'm good off enough with offset, but even when I set myself to a specific rhythm with my tapping, I can never seem to get the target delay unless I fluke it. ;.; Suggestions?
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I just tried again and got a frame of 7 for my scented pokemon, which was confirmed on the method 1 list. I then caught Heatran and generated the Method J list and Heatran was frame 13.
This either means my game is unique, being a Japanese Platinum ROM, or OmegaDonut's method of adding 8 to the Method 1 pokemon's frame doesn't work.
I have gotten the same results twice now, adding 5 onto the Method 1 pokemon's frame then adding another 1 for Heatran.
@Tase: Yeah I find delay the hardest part. Once you've got an offset it usually stays on that offset and won't change until you save, but the delay fluctuates and I find it is complete luck. The switching between odd and even makes it harder as well. I find the only way to change your delay is to take note of how fast you tap A, then adjust that for whatever delay you are going for. Also changing the year up (for a lower delay) and down (for a higher delay) helps because you can change your target delay to what you consistently get.
This either means my game is unique, being a Japanese Platinum ROM, or OmegaDonut's method of adding 8 to the Method 1 pokemon's frame doesn't work.
I have gotten the same results twice now, adding 5 onto the Method 1 pokemon's frame then adding another 1 for Heatran.
@Tase: Yeah I find delay the hardest part. Once you've got an offset it usually stays on that offset and won't change until you save, but the delay fluctuates and I find it is complete luck. The switching between odd and even makes it harder as well. I find the only way to change your delay is to take note of how fast you tap A, then adjust that for whatever delay you are going for. Also changing the year up (for a lower delay) and down (for a higher delay) helps because you can change your target delay to what you consistently get.
Hello guys, it's my first post here, but I've been following the thread for a long time now. Right now, I've dominated the method for shiny breeding, and I'm locked on my Platinum on the Distortion World, trying to catch a Shiny Giratina.
I've tried to follow Arael's post about the Giratina-O, but my results are not consistent at all!
I'm looking for those spreads, that are shiny on my ID/SID:
Seed Frame PID Shiny Nature
1f05028d 49 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 53 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 55 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 63 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 71 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 75 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 76 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 77 821377af !!! Adamant
The problem here is that I'm not quite sure about how to be sure about the frame where Giratina is falling. I've tried to search again on the thread, but had no success.
I can't sweet scent on Distortion World, so the only way would be catching Giratina, and looking for its Nature/IVs on the RNG Reporter, but there, a lot of frames are shown as possibilities for the same IVs/Nature. How do I know where did I fall?
I've tried to follow Arael's post about the Giratina-O, but my results are not consistent at all!
I'm looking for those spreads, that are shiny on my ID/SID:
Seed Frame PID Shiny Nature
1f05028d 49 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 53 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 55 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 63 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 71 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 75 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 76 821377af !!! Adamant
1f05028d 77 821377af !!! Adamant
The problem here is that I'm not quite sure about how to be sure about the frame where Giratina is falling. I've tried to search again on the thread, but had no success.
I can't sweet scent on Distortion World, so the only way would be catching Giratina, and looking for its Nature/IVs on the RNG Reporter, but there, a lot of frames are shown as possibilities for the same IVs/Nature. How do I know where did I fall?
Hay, sorry if this is a silly question, but I've only just decided to take a shot at the IV calibration and this part has been confusing me a little.
If I find a good IV spread in Platinum after a successful calibration phase but I mess up the timing by accident, does this mean I have to generate new spreads+start all over again, thereby losing that specific spread?
Or can I just reset my DS's clock back to the time I need for that desired spread and just try again, meaning the spread is still attainable?
Thanks~ *_*;
If I find a good IV spread in Platinum after a successful calibration phase but I mess up the timing by accident, does this mean I have to generate new spreads+start all over again, thereby losing that specific spread?
Or can I just reset my DS's clock back to the time I need for that desired spread and just try again, meaning the spread is still attainable?
Thanks~ *_*;
Ahah! That's much better than what I had in mind, LOL. I was under the impression that i'd have to go through the whole process again if I messed up >_> Alright, I get it now. Thanks ;D
Yeah, my delay keeps fluctuating from 597-611 ): Whaaat.
-edit- Oh darn. I have two DSes too. That's a really good idea. o_o
Er, you are getting 6 past where you think you should be every time? Makes some sense. The +2 for scent in cave happen before the IVs are generated for the monster you scent. 2 + 6 = 8.
Finding out which frame you actually landed on can be impossible (lots of offsets produce the same monster), so basically you just need to get the RNG advancement correct to do it. Sorry there is not really a better answer than that yet.
Delays are what Nintendo put in to actually make the RNG ... random. Be glad it as easy as it is to target a specific delay.
I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing because it's hard to explain.
I am saved outside Heatran's cave in Japanese Platinum (ROM.) I change the time to my target seed and reset on the minute (I'm aiming for 8th May 2061, Delay 603. 19:02:13), because it takes me 13 seconds to get in.
I get in as fast as I can and sweet scent a pokemon. I find its IVs using rare candies and MetalKid's IV calculator, find my seed (which by the way is incorrect, got the wrong delay) and then generate the Method 1 list and the frame of my scented pokemon is 7. Because my seed was wrong I just decide to test Heatran anyway. I then proceed to catch Heatran and generate the Method J list and find it's frame of 13.
According to what Omega said after sweet scenting the frame of the legend should be the frame of the Method 1 pokemon +8 plus the offset of the legend.
For me each time I have tested it has been the frame of the Method 1 pokemon +5 +1 for heatran, which is contrary to what OD said.
OD was using the offset in the initial seed finder, if I am not mistaken. Which did not match that of the method 1 frame when he was doing his testing if I remember correctly. Why do you say +5+1? Can't we just call that +6?
Also, OD was scenting another Pokemon if I not mistaken. Which consumes, in a cave, an extra two seeds.
Also, OD was scenting another Pokemon if I not mistaken. Which consumes, in a cave, an extra two seeds.
Oh, ok. I'll try scenting twice and see what happens. I was using +5+1 to try and be as clear as possible, breaking it down.
This is much harder than people set it out to be, although it probably doesn't help everything being in Japanese and not having an IV check code.
Don't mind my question, now I was able to get some results that are more stable. Unfortunately, my delay decided that it was a good time to switch from odd to even, and I had to change the year to get a even delay on my spread, but guess what? It then changed to odd again.
Happens to me all the time. I suggest putting in a GBA game in the GAB slot and that should change your delay from odd>even of visa versa.
Really? That explains it.
Addendum: it's not always offset + 8. I think earlier (like, way, way back) I said I had gotten things like offset + 11 in Heatran's cave. At first I thought it was because of the movement of some NPCs.
What he did was probably save again to prevent the journal from popping up, which for some people changes the delay. So just save again to put it back to the other one.
Wait a sec. When I Sweet Scented for Azelf, I Scented on the water and got offset + 8.
The OP suggests that they both advance the RNG the same, therefore they should both land on offset + 8. Instead Scenting in the cave causes it to land on offset + 11 (or whatever the number was). So it seems Scenting in the cave advances the RNG more than we previously thought.
I'll check and see if this applies for other caves besides Heatran's cave. (Oh wait, I'm supposed to be studying for finals...)
The OP suggests that they both advance the RNG the same, therefore they should both land on offset + 8. Instead Scenting in the cave causes it to land on offset + 11 (or whatever the number was). So it seems Scenting in the cave advances the RNG more than we previously thought.
I'll check and see if this applies for other caves besides Heatran's cave. (Oh wait, I'm supposed to be studying for finals...)
For me I always consistently get +6 so that means it's less inside caves, unless I'm a unique case.
So, I had a question
I found the seed I wanted is 4911026f
The seed that I got was 49110269
I am confused between the differences between these two seeds, or if I am just barley off.
I found the seed I wanted is 4911026f
The seed that I got was 49110269
I am confused between the differences between these two seeds, or if I am just barley off.
If I'm fishing for magikarp to calibrate myself and the first hook I cast right after pressing A at the continue screen doesn't come up with anything (i.e. not even a nibble...) does that affect my seconds? I'm timing myself with two DSs and I know for sure that I'm not taking 24 seconds (more like 15 ish each time) to get from my reset to the continue screen, but the seconds I'm getting from generating the inital seed are horribly off sometimes when I take longer than normal to hook a karp. ):
The difference is in the delay you got. You were about 6 off.
Sephirona: Exactly how off is it? And is it consistent?
I know I'm not that bad at tapping consistently on the A button. My delay is precise enough, usually between 595-605, but my seconds jump from 11 to 27. I looked at my second DS while tapping and I know it had to have been 14-15 when I hit continue, so I don't know how I get such huge differences in seconds. ; 3; The only thing I really noticed was that my seconds would jump really high mostly during the instances when I took too long to hook a magikarp - but I don't know if that should have anything to do with it.
Maybe there's something wrong with my DS. `-`;
As a side note, it has more to do with the delays, I suppose, but I do have Emerald inserted into the DS I'm trying to calibrate on~
Maybe there's something wrong with my DS. `-`;
As a side note, it has more to do with the delays, I suppose, but I do have Emerald inserted into the DS I'm trying to calibrate on~
Yeah the amount of time you take to catch your poke won't affect it. The only thing I can think of is clocks being out of sync/you not resetting at the right time. The seconds are really the second that you hit continue, not how long it takes you to get in.
On another note I finally got the Heatran I wanted. When I finally got my delay I got it the desired spread the first time.
Hmm...clocks being out of sync...? Now that you mention it, I did change my DS's time to try to match a calibrated spread before I realized my calibration was probably off.
Alright, I'll try again after trying to migrate and syncing the time tomorrow, and if it still fails I'll try again on my other DS @_@; Thanks~