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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

When you journal comes up if the first page has you catching a Pokemon, if you flip away then flip back to the page will that advance the frame?
 
I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what went wrong with my Gastly catching, here's what went down:

On RNG it says my frame is 150 (actual = 153 if that makes a difference, IDK)

Saved in Old Chateau.
Hit target time + delay and verified with coin flips.
Did 73 Journal flips (RNG=146).
Walked 1 step forward (=147)
Used Sweet Scent (=149)
Monster Frame is 1.
=150?

I'm guessing I overlooked a step somehow, since I'm pretty sure my journal flips were correct, I could be wrong though.

Edit: Oh and no wandering pokemon.
 
Isn't the monster frame 0?
Or if it isn't, shouldn't you be taking 128 steps to advance with however many pokemon you have in your party because you are not in water, grass, or a cave?
 
Well I thought I was in a "cave" because pokemon appear at any time there. And the monster frame is 1, says LightningFusion.
 
Sweet scenting advances the RNG by 1, and the encounter advances it by 1. So you should get to frame 148 then sweet scent to reach frame 150.

From the OP:

- Sweet Scenting in the grass / caves advance the RNG by 1 seed. This does not include the calls to generate the monster or the effects of battle.
 
Is it possible that my game does not work with RNG abuse? It seems like flipping pages in my journal does not advance the frame.
 
It's okay, I was confused by this too awhile ago. It is correct to sweet scent at 148, however. The monster frame refers to if you started the game and SSed right away. So you start at 0, sweet scent, which is 1 advancement, and then the encounter, which is 1 advancement.

Othin, it does. You're probably doing something wrong, post more details ^^).
 
I was reading DMP and noticed Bozo posting shinies bred in emerald. When did it become possible to breed shinies there?
 
Chaos669 - I still think you're wrong, or am at least questioning what you're saying.

Target Frame: 150
Monster Frame: 1
Total Number of Required RNG Advances: 149

That's pretty much straight from the OP, is it not? I appreciate the help, btw.
 
Advance to 148 and then sweet scent :P. One frame advancement for the action of sweet scenting, and one for the encounter. Trust meh.
 
I am looking for a very specific spread for Darkrai (Naive HP Fire 70, not shiny) and it is taking a very long time to search. Is there any way to make the searching go faster? I have searched in like 10 different years and I still haven't found anything.
 
Chaos669 said:
Othin, it does. You're probably doing something wrong, post more details ^^).
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When my journal comes up the first page is the only page that says that I captured a Pokemon. When I start up the game I start on frame 6. So I flip away from the page then back to advance the frame, but it does not seem to actually advance the frame because the Pokemon's ivs do not change.

There has to be something wrong with my Platinum's RNG because this does not work...
 
Wild Eep said:
Diesel said:
I'm a little bit unclear about a part of the Egg RNG Abuse section. If I'm trying to hit my target frame/delay/time to get flawless IVs on my egg, can I collect the egg then do the coin flips to see if I got it right? Will NPCs moving affect my coin flips? I can't SR with my AR codes, so no fast hatch + IV check.
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1. Yes - this is exactly what to do.
2. No, they won't get in the way.

The coin flips run off a separate RNG routine from the egg IVs and the moving NPCs, so the latter things won't affect your flips.
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Exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks a lot from my part too!
 
Diesel said:
I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what went wrong with my Gastly catching, here's what went down:

On RNG it says my frame is 150 (actual = 153 if that makes a difference, IDK)

Saved in Old Chateau.
Hit target time + delay and verified with coin flips.
Did 73 Journal flips (RNG=146).
Walked 1 step forward (=147)
Used Sweet Scent (=149)
Monster Frame is 1.
=150?

I'm guessing I overlooked a step somehow, since I'm pretty sure my journal flips were correct, I could be wrong though.

Edit: Oh and no wandering pokemon.
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Why are you walking a step? If your frame is 150, just do 74 journal flips and then scent. That's all.
 
I have already asked a lot of questions, but I'm still confused.

I've saved right before the daycare man, who is holding a male, aftermath, calm Drifloon that knows hypnosis.

I'm looking for this spread:

2009 08 02 | 16:02:14 | delay: 600 | frame: 14 | spread: 31/28/31/A/A/A | H,T,H,T,T,H,T,H,T,H
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Wich is good because my average delay is 600.


The first time I just collected the egg, hatched it and checked it's IV's. It appeared I was on a frame of six. I reset my DS, set the appropriate time and date, and SR just as it turned 16:02, to make sure I'd hit continue at 16:02:14.

Then, the journal popped up, and the first page already said I catched a pokémon (wich already counts as one flip). Assuming I was on a frame of six when I started, I did three more flips to get to a frame of 14. I then pressed start and collect the egg before a NPC moves. Then, I try the flip sequence, wich doesn't match at all. When I hatch the egg, the IV's don't match either.

Do I just have to have more patience, and continue doing what I'm doing now, or am I doing something wrong?

I've already been doing this for quite a long time now and it never matches, so I think I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks a lot for helping me!
 
I'm a little unclear on the Encounter Code stuff. If I find my shiny spread in RNG Reporter, and it tells me the Encounter Code is 1, am I stuck with that, or can it be manipulated? Just as an example, I have an HP Ice spread that I want to get a Pichu/Pikachu with in the Trophy Garden, but my Code is 1, so I got Roselia. Can I not get Pika with this spread?
 
I thought it was pretty limited at first too. Have you tried using a synchronizer? Without a syncher, my shiny adamant spread only happens on one frame. With a syncher it happens on like 10 different frames all with different encounter slots.
 
Yea I have, still only one spread though, unfortunately, assuming I'm searching correctly. Maybe I'm out of luck with this spread. It's nice to know other spreads will provide more options, though.

Edit: If you type in the IVs, frame, and seed from Wichu's program will you only get one frame? Or will it still generate multiple options with different encounter codes if those options exist?
 
yawg07 said:
Destiny100, are you absolutely sure of two things ...

1. You synchronized your DS clock to a real clock at :00 seconds.
2. You SR'd at a :00 second mark.

Make sure both of those are true. It sounds like the one or both could be wrong.
Also, you could also try re-synchronizing the DS Clock each time, too, you're gonna have to do that when you start the real deal anyhow.
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Heh, thanks. I might just not have seen it but the front page was a bit confusing but the times i hit 18/19 secs, I SR at :00, i only SR'd again if the pokemon wasn't a lvl 50. Thanks for the help. Hoping to get a flawless pokemon today although I need a flawless Ditto first. Please PM me if you have one O=)
 
Diesel said:
Yea I have, still only one spread though, unfortunately, assuming I'm searching correctly. Maybe I'm out of luck with this spread. It's nice to know other spreads will provide more options, though.

Edit: If you type in the IVs, frame, and seed from Wichu's program will you only get one frame? Or will it still generate multiple options with different encounter codes if those options exist?
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If your frame is high enough, it may be possible to abuse it with pokeradar because it overwrites the encounter slots if you are on a chain sometimes.

Wichu's program only has method 1, so the frame it gives back is the method frame, but it is off by 3 frames. So you always have to put it in RNG reporter and set it to method J and with or without syncher to find out what frame you need.

Also, Chaos was right earlier. People are used to using the sweet scent number 2. One is from the monster frame, and another from the sweet scenting. Target - 1 monster frame - 1 sweet scent =148 /2 = 74 Journal flips.
 
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