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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
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JRT. Did you turn the sound on? The beep'ing sound to keep you in time?
Also, alsabino, that is so much info, I'm not even going to bother to read through it. I gotta go soon anyway.
Just follow these steps...
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1978852&postcount=4387
It's not hard.
Also, alsabino, that is so much info, I'm not even going to bother to read through it. I gotta go soon anyway.
Just follow these steps...
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1978852&postcount=4387
It's not hard.
oh thx destiny :D ive been looking for a guide like that for a few days now, but googl'es no help
Lol, no problem ^_^.
@JRT
Below the timer, do you see a checkbox thing? Tick it.
It'll make a beeping sound on the second timer for the last 10 seconds.
@JRT
Below the timer, do you see a checkbox thing? Tick it.
It'll make a beeping sound on the second timer for the last 10 seconds.
By the way, I just found out something. In the guide, it says Giratina's frame in the Distortion World is 12. This is incorrect - its frame is 1, just like any other legendary. However, loading the Distortion World map uses up 11 RNG calls, making it seem as if the frame is 12. If you reload the map, for example by opening and closing the Journal, the frame will increase by 11 again, throwing off your advancement. If you attempt to RNG abuse by checking the frame with coin flips, then advancing with the Journal, Giratina's frame will therefore appear to be 23 (1+11+11).
Could somebody verify this? I think I've done that correctly, but I'd like confirmation. If this turns out to be correct, the RNG abuse guide will need correcting :)
EDIT: Could the significantly easier method of counting Journal page flips also be documented? I'll explain for anyone who doesn't know:
Catch Pokémon and change the date each time so all 10 pages of the Journal are filled with 'Pokémon caught' messages.
Instead of flipping between two pages continuously, open the Journal, flip through to the end, then flip back to the beginning. This way, you're still advancing it a same amount each time you flip through, but it's easier to count how many times you've done so (and you're less likely to mess up).
Flipping through a full Journal will advance the RNG 38 times (the first 9 pages are flipped through twice, and the last only appears once - (9x2+1)x2=38).
This also makes it easy to RNG abuse away from a computer - register the Journal to the Y button, so each time you flip through, it returns you to the map screen. Then, use Pokétch app #11 (counter) to record how many times you've flipped through.
That's the method I always use when RNG abusing; it's really easy to use, requires no outside equipment, and makes it much easier to keep track of how many flips you've done.
Could somebody verify this? I think I've done that correctly, but I'd like confirmation. If this turns out to be correct, the RNG abuse guide will need correcting :)
EDIT: Could the significantly easier method of counting Journal page flips also be documented? I'll explain for anyone who doesn't know:
Catch Pokémon and change the date each time so all 10 pages of the Journal are filled with 'Pokémon caught' messages.
Instead of flipping between two pages continuously, open the Journal, flip through to the end, then flip back to the beginning. This way, you're still advancing it a same amount each time you flip through, but it's easier to count how many times you've done so (and you're less likely to mess up).
Flipping through a full Journal will advance the RNG 38 times (the first 9 pages are flipped through twice, and the last only appears once - (9x2+1)x2=38).
This also makes it easy to RNG abuse away from a computer - register the Journal to the Y button, so each time you flip through, it returns you to the map screen. Then, use Pokétch app #11 (counter) to record how many times you've flipped through.
That's the method I always use when RNG abusing; it's really easy to use, requires no outside equipment, and makes it much easier to keep track of how many flips you've done.
Wichu I think people have discussed this before, but they were never certain exactly why the frame became 12 or 23 or 34 or whatever it happened to be. I guess now we know :) that's a good little piece of information.
Yay, got a Gible with four perfect IVs, thanks so much for your help earlier in the thread, everyone. ^_^
HP: 31/Att: 31/Def: 31/SpA: 29/SpD: 1/Speed: 31
Wish SpA and SpD were reversed, but never mind.
Going to go for five, but was wondering if it's usually best to have two parents with four perfect first? I have another one with three, in HP, SpD and Speed that I could use as a parent with this one, but I'm trying to avoid getting really odd hatch dates, so it might be hard to find a good spread.
HP: 31/Att: 31/Def: 31/SpA: 29/SpD: 1/Speed: 31
Wish SpA and SpD were reversed, but never mind.
Going to go for five, but was wondering if it's usually best to have two parents with four perfect first? I have another one with three, in HP, SpD and Speed that I could use as a parent with this one, but I'm trying to avoid getting really odd hatch dates, so it might be hard to find a good spread.
As for that method -- Quite a few people have already discovered that and, to me, it tends to fall into the "how to count to high numbers" realm and I've been pretty reluctant to cover that because figuring out how to count to a high number without losing your place strikes me as something that anyone who is doing the rest of this should be able to figure out. :/
I am planning a new part of the articles for advanced topics and tips and this may well fit in, though.
Can somebody give me a link to the thread related to Rng abuse in HGSS,i can't find it lol..
edit:found it
edit:found it
Not exactly. One, it uses the normal RNG, so if you have roamers out the pattern will be affected. Two, talking to your Pokemon actually advances the RNG, and how much it advances depends on the response (some advance it 90+ frames). So if the frame you're aiming for is low (like less than 100), then you probably won't be able to use this technique.
On the plus side, the responses allow you to advance the RNG much, much faster than the journal, so frames in the thousands or even tens of thousands are easier to get.
this is just a question on the rng reporter - the program crashes when i use the dppt seed finder
anyone have a way to fix it?
anyone have a way to fix it?
Seriously, give more information or don't bother reporting. "My car doesn't work, what is wrong with it?".
Everything else is fine - however when i press the DPPt Seed Finder
a window opens saying :
''RNG Reporter has stopped working''
then this box opens
''A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.
Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.''
it then gives me a choice to debug or close program - i pressed debug but it didnt do anything as i left it for an hour. Im not a computer programmer
but can you help?
I saw what you posted in the research thread, I find it very helpful.
I'm aiming for a high delay and a frame higher then usual, so I'm testing what my pokémon does, at which delays and how much my frame advances.
Example:
I'm aiming for a 980 delay. (I'm using Sephirona's/Dan Dan's method, but somewhat different, but it works fine for me.) I've found out that when I hit a delay of 980, my pokémon will step towards me, show a music note and give me a yes/no question. I chose yes, caught Suicune, saw my delay was 980, and saw it's frame was 23. I knew now that the music note part probably indicates a delay of 980. Or 980 is at least part of the possibilities. Before, I saw my standard frame was 5. I now knoe that what my pokémon did, advanced the frame by 18. Maybe helpful for you guys, not important to me. I need to get a frame of 43, so I just walk 5x128 steps with 4 pokémon in my team. I should hit my spread, in theory. It hasn't worked yet, but I'm asuming it will once I hit my delay. I've got 4 pokémon because I'm too lazy to get a fifth.
So, with your research and a bit of my own, I'm able to get what I want pretty easy, in theory. I hope it does and will work for others too.
So my advice to others trying to RNG stuff (with a high frame) in HG/SS is just to try out a few things and see if you can work something out easily.
its version 7.10 and im using windows vista. I've already redownloaded but ill try a older version - ill google that. Sorry for lack of information ill be more descriptive in future
I really don't think an older version will help you. The things to generally look out for are is that you have the.net framework installed (it generally would not run at all if you did not) and that the config file is in the same directory where you run from. Other than that, if you cant figure out where the exception text is being displayed, I am not sure what I can do to help.
So, I've finally got HG ordered. Question about SIDs though. How do you know if you've got a terrible SID/ID combo? I know how to get my SID checked and all, but I don't know what's good and what's bad. I've gathered that certain combos prohibit useful nature/IV combinations. :/ Should I just start the game, find my SID and then check for certain good IV/Nature combos to see if they're there and at a low frame, or whatever?
Might just be confused here though...
Might just be confused here though...
ID/SID only determine which spreads are shiny. You can get any spread in any game as long as you're content with the normal color.
There are two ways to go about it. SR, find SID, and check in wichu's program for spreads. I like to search 26+/0+/26+/26+/26+/30+.
or...
You can use wild eep's program to reset for a specific ID and SID combination. You can check your delay based on the ID you get, and if you get the correct ID, you got your SID also.
Hey LF, just a quick question about something I found when pokeradar abusing. Did you notice that whenever you hit your seed, that the patches always appear in the same place when you use the radar? It changes if you resave in a different position, but as long as you are just resetting they will always be the same. I've found it useful when trying to do it in weather, as you can verify your seed without having to catch a pokemon. It might be something to include in your post. You probably have figured this out by yourself already, but it's been a nice piece of info to have for me and maybe could help others.