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Moves Pokémon Should/n't have.

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Considering the playability of many ghosts and how pathetic rapid spin's damage is, I'd say that even if it were much more widely available the spikes/rocks would still see a lot of play. :/
 
Okay, this is starting to get out of hand. Stop talking about tutors for dumb moves like Fire Fang and Volt Tackle for everyone; VT's a signature move and STAB Fangs are outclassed by Return. Got it?.

I meant cool stuff, like Bronzong (which isn't bronze!) Heal Bell, since it is a bell.

And NO, not everything defensive needs a recovery move. Shuckle can easily afford two turn Rest, it's fucking Shuckle. If you're smart and not letting your wall be set-up fodder, Rest works great.

Gastly doesn't "punch", it evolves into something with arms.



NOOOOOO. No. No. No. No. No. Seriously, Flare Blitz is practically a signature move, Ice Fang blows dick, Nasty Plot is intentionally restricted (or else it'd be a TM like SD is and Blissey would be uber due to it), Baton Pass's restraints hold it back from world team domination, and Rapid Spin on everything would make an entire strategy fall apart faster than, say, Choice Scarf Dugtrio. No, faster than Pursuit against Mr. Mime.

Guys, Nintendo didn't give everybody everything. Perhaps for a REASON.

And this, my friends, is the definition of a Conservative in the Pokemon sense.
 
Entei with Swords Dance and Flare Blitz. Then he would be OU.

Zapdos/Moltres/Articuno with Drizzle, Drought, and Snow Warning as traits.
 
Also, why does Rhydon learn Surf...? I mean, shouldn't it...sink?

Haha, there's actually a man that says that in Ecruteak City. I'm looking through this thread and finding a lot of first time posters in here, but on topic, the myriad of WTF Pokemon that get Selfdestruct/Explosion is weird. Wailord. Skuntank. Camerupt. Azelf. And many more.
 
Got some more:

Jigglypuff - Moonlight and Bounce
Xatu - Air Slash
Hoot-hoot line - Calm Mind
Paras line and Lileep line and Seedot line - Seed Bomb
Shiftry - Night Slash and Wood Hammer
Bellsprout line - Power Whip
Victreebel - Crunch and Poison Fang
Chingling line and Spinda - Hyper Voice
Kingdra - Dragon Rush
Barboach line - Muddy Water
Ninjask - Extremespeed
Remoraid line - Aqua Jet
Octillery - Hydro Pump
Slowpoke - Aqua Tail
Gastrodon - Earth Power
Skuntank - Ice Fang, Fire Fang, and Thunder Fang
 
Jolteon with Nasty Plot...
Regirock needs Rock Head and Head Smash
Registeel needs Gyro Ball
Scyther and Scizor needs Earthquake and Bug Bite(Technician Bug Bite is Uber evil)
Scizor also needs Skill Swap(Skill Swap Flash Fire and just laugh)but not as much
Articuno needs to learn Surf,Air Slash,Spikes,Stealth Rock,Calm Mind,Nasty Plot...so many things...
 
No it wouldn't, Slack off would just make snorlax OU.
Its as broken as blissey with softboiled/natural cure lol.



Orly? Snorlax can raise its weakish Defense and its good Attack with Curse, while taking special hits quite damn well with 160/110 HP/SpDef.

While Blissey can raise its WTF!NOWAY!THATHIGH!?!? Special defense and its mediocre SAtk with CM, it really cannot take physical hits.

That is what makes Snorlax a Tank and Blissey a wall, making 50% recovery on Blissey more reasonable than 50% recovery on Lax.

And just so you know, a lot of people DO consider Blissey overpowered, but its pretty much the only Pokemon that can deal with the high powered Special attackers like Pory-Z wielding high powered STAB Plotted attacks, making it a necessity in OU.
 
For all those who comment on Sucker Punch Dugtrio, A "Sucker Punch" is meant to be taken figuratively.

However, Dunsparce getting Roost is something I can't explain. Its wings are about as significant as Clefable's, or Heracross's. Meanwhile you have things like Cresselia, who not only has a key item dedicated to its wing (Lunar Wing), but also is airborne.

Dunsparce doesn't use its wings to roost. It uses his tail to dig to his nest in the underground and takes a nap, that's what the pokédex says.

Topic:

Poliwrath: Close Combat/Hammer Arms
Politoed/Kecleon/Victribeel/Tentacruel: Power Vine
Probopass: Solid Rock trait


Lucario shouldn't have Bone Rush. I mean, he doesnt have a bone club like Marowak, how can he do this?

I also think that to many pokés can use Stone Edge, like Gyarados.
 
Seriously. Some of these ideas would make these Pokemon broken. There's a reason GF didn't give some of these Pokemon certain moves.
 
Flareon and Entei having Thunder Fang in their movepool. Seem weird but I though it was the more logically attack to see them having since certain fire pokemon learn electric attacks and vice versa for electric pokem.
 
Flare Blitz isn't even close to a signiture move. Like, 20+ pokemon can learn it.

Seriously, giving flareon and entei flare blitz won't break anything. It's just fair.

Really.

And how about farfetch'd? Why not give him a special move?
 
gastly can make his gas turn into arms. as shown on the anime
Makes sense.

Actually, Pikachu is an idiotic mouse. He has Light Ball, he has Volt Tackle. CAN'T HE SHARE AT LEAST VOLT TACKLE!?!

And another one: Focus Punch Togekiss. I can see clearly why he got it (Togetic learned it in ADV), but c'mon, where's his freaking fists? In his mouth?
 
And how about farfetch'd? Why not give him a special move?

lol. I actually made a sig move for him like 2 days ago.

Name: Leek Smash
Type: Flying
Category: Physical
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
Effect: High Critical-Hit Ratio.

Anyway, on topic, Banette should get the elemental punches.
 
Tyranitar is a big heavy pokemon, which even if stomps, it can cause earthquake. Garchomp is not-so-heavy land shark, which needs to use more complicated techniques to make the earth shake, therefore, he only can learn them by TM.

Absol should learn Crunch and Agility
 
The whole Smogon community should allow hacking of the move Flare Blitz on Entei and Flareon, only. Cresselia should get Psycho Boost. I mean come on, Deoxys doesn't need it. Entei should get Sacred Fire, too. It's a freakn' legendary. That seems pretty sacred to me.
 
Why does Tyranitar get EQ leveling up but Garchomp doesn't?

Because Tyranitar is the GOD OF SAND GET OUT EVERY, while Garchomp is just a retarded landshark/airplane/sharkplane.

Well, about my idea of Baton Pass and Move Tutor: Yeah, that was really just a stretch, I don't think everything should learn it. It'd be like Softboiled in Emerald: Teached by Move Tutor, but few can get it.

But I still want Nasty Plot and Aura Sphere Move Tutors.
 
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