My first try at an OU team. Help wanted.

Twilight Lucario

My first try at an OU team Revamp. Help wanted.

So...umm...I'm Cute_Lucario both here and on Shoddy and this here is my first real try at a Competitive Battling Team. That being said, my team needs a little help, but I'll talk about that later, for now here is my team.

The Team


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Bruno the Bronzong @ Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252HP 152Atk 8Def 92SpD
Nature: Relaxed
~ Trick Room
~ Gyro Ball
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake


My lead. Bruno here can set up Trick Room with little trouble, barring Taunt of course. If my opponent does Taunt, they may be surprised by the damage that Gyro Ball. A 120 BP attack backed by STAB is nothing to sneeze at. Hypnosis helps to deal with Pokémon that resist Gyro Ball or to deal with defensive Pokes that think they can wall him. I was suprised when Bruno took down three different Metagross leads. Bruno's Earthquake out damaged anything they used on him. After his Trick Room, he can throw up Stealth Rock with, once again, almost no trouble. I chose the Lum Berry as his item so that his Trick Room wouldn't be stopped by Pokémon with Hypnosis or Thunder Wave.


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Titania the Rhyperior (f) @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 252Atk 252HP 4Def
Nature: Brave
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Megahorn
~ Swords Dance


My main post Trick Room attacker. Titania's job is to come in after a Trick Room and wreck some havoc. Two great STAB attacks backed up by a 416 Attack stat is not something to be taken lightly, especial this combination. Earthquake rocks anything on the ground while Stone Edge deals with my airborne foes. Megahorn offers some much needed Psychic coverage. If I predect a switch, or if she aint taking much damage, Swords Dance can be used for a great attack boost, letting her OHKO many things, especially during Trick Room.


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Elincia the Togekiss (f) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252SA 252HP 4Def
Nature: Calm
~ Air Slash
~ Aura Sphere
~ Roost
~ Wish


My main special attacker. Elincia's job is to come in on a Special Wall and KO or scare it off while being able to function without Trick Room. Air Slash and Aura Sphere offers type coverage resisted only by Zapdos and Rotom. Air Slash not only gives her a STAB, but also has such great synergy with Serene Grace. After Trick Room messes with who moves first or Thunder Wave halves her opponents speed that 60% Flinch chance can be killer. Roost is there to increase her bulkiness and give her a chance at stalling out Life Orbed foes. Wish lets her cushion the blows my poke will take switching in, or give Flare or Tiatania another chance to sweep.


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Digi the Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252HP 120SpD 136SpA
Nature: Quiet
~ Trick Room
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Recover


My second Trick Roomer. Digi's job is to set up Trick Room when Bronzong can't. Recover gives Digi a nice chance of using Trick Room multiple times and helps to stall out Life Orbs holders. The usual Bolt-Beam combo proves great at dealing with enemy Pokes, and let's him be an immediate threat to any Pokémon it might get a super effective hit on. I switched out for the Leftovers to give Digi a better chance at living.


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Flare the Heatran (f) @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252HP 4Def 252SpA
Nature: Quiet
IVs: 23Atk 30SpA 3Spe
~ Fire Blast
~ Earth Power
~ HP Electric
~ Taunt


My Special Attacker. Flare's job is to take out Steel types. Fire Blast is ment to be her main attack, but I find that I only use it when I have to, it's iffy acuracy is a bit of a turn off to me, I may switch it out for Flamethrower... Earth Power deals with the non Fire weak Steel types and opposing Fire types. HP Electric can, under Trick Room, let him deal with Water types rather well, or if I predict a switch. Taunt helps should my opponent try to set up on her.

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Slowsis the Slowbro (f) @ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252HP 252Def 4SpA
Nature: Relaxed
~ Trick Room
~ Slack Off
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam


My Physically Defencive Trick Roomer. Slowsis's job is to come in on Physical foes or Water types and set up Trick Room. Slowsis does Physically what Digi does Specially, set up Trick Room while taking little damage. Slack Off can let her heal up after taking damage, allowing for multipul Trick Rooms. Surf and Ice Beam are standard on most Water types for a reason, Surf supplies the STAB while Ice Beam deals with Dragons.


All this being said, I know this team aint perfect. Entry Hazards give me worlds of hurt. I got my but handed to me by a team of Blissey and Skarmory, and I don’t have much in the way of dealing with Swampert.While Swampert is some what taking care of by Slowsis, if Titania is lost then Blissey gets to have her way with my team. I would like to try to keep the Trick Room theme if I can, but all suggestions are welcome.


Credit for all pictures goes to http://www.arkeis.com/pokemonfactory.htm​

Edit 1: YAY! Thanks to the tip in the RMT rules, I finally got to update my team! ^_^ Updates in Bold.
 
Real quick note here: there's no point in having dual screens on Cress unless you plan on getting a sweeper behind them to set up. I would suggest either changing Cress to a different wall, possibly Forretress or Swampert since your team seems to be in need of a Stealth Rock user, and Forry could even spin for you. That being said, you could go the other route and change your Gallade to a stat-upper. Bulk Up or Sword's Dance are great choices for him, and could really scare your opponent. You could run the following set:

Gallade @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Ability: Steadfast
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 172 HP/240 Atk/96 Spd
-Close Combat / Brick Break / Drain Punch
-Psycho Cut
-Ice Punch / Shadow Sneak / Stone Edge
-Sword's Dance / Bulk Up

Lots of choices, I know. But here's a quick explanation:
Item: Item choice depends on how much you want to do, and if you want to take recoil. If using Shadow Sneak, go with Life Orb, if not, the choice is yours.
EVs: The HP allows you to survive two Modest SpecsGar Shadow Balls while you're behind Light Screen, after accounting for SR damage. This gives you a chance to set up if you need it or just go for the kill outright. Speed is to outspeed neutral base 60s with 252 EVs, not many that would, but among them would be Empoleon, Porygon2, and Magnezone, all of which you hit super-effectively. The rest is dumped into Attack.
Moves: Fighting STAB is mostly preference, if you're using using Bulk Up, Close Combat seems like a bad option. Drain Punch can restore some damage taken from LO, so it's worth using only if you're also using a LO. Third spot is for coverage. You had Ice Punch already, and it's a good option for hitting Flying and Dragon types. Stone Edge will hit both of those (most of which for slightly less damage) but hit other types for more neutral damage. Shadow Sneak is an option because by removing his Scarf, you've lost any Speed that your team had originally. With a LO and SD boost, it will OHKO Gengar and Alakazam before they can hit you, and can also finish off weakened foes. Last spot is how you want to stat-up, and is very dependent on how you like to play. I suggest testing both if you are unsure of which you want.

Alright, so it wasn't so quick, but I think it deserved a mention. Hope it works for you. I did take away your team's Speed (it wasn't much, but it was at least some), but I don't think that will be a huge problem because you have two TR users, as well as Togekiss to pass on some Paralysis.
 
I feel useless......

Blackhawk sorta defeated the purpose of further posting with that great idea. =D

However, if I am posting, I will help nevertheless!
As a Trick Room team, I'm sorta wondering where Dusknoir is xD
Choice Scarf Gallade has never been very promising, being outclassed by Heracross at that. Also, being a Trick Room team, having the speed isn't so important. But since Blackhawk explained how to better use Gallade already, I better improve on a couple of your other Pokemon. With Rhyperior, I suggest using Substitute, with Swords Dance behind it, and Trick Room, breaking walls won't be breaking walls anymore, it'll be cardboard. Replace Cresselia with Swampert, and make him your lead. Give him Roar, and there you can get rid of Skarmory and Blissey as a combo. However, SkarmBliss is easily dispatched with the move Trick, which Bronzong or Porygon2 can do to great effect. Bronzong is pretty necessary on a Trick Room team, I don't recommend Togekiss, it really has no place on your team. Thunder Wave defeats the purpose of Trick Room, but more than that Togekiss is one more bulky teammate, who really doesn't fulfill any particular part of your team. Oh by the way, Gallade's spot might better be filled by RestTalk Machamp with Payback, his already low speed and bulk make him the perfect candidate to be passed speed to or to benefit from reverse speed conditions in this case. Porygon2 is just fine, but I may be wrong.
 
Hello. It is my pleasure to have seen such a creative team here on the board, so I will make my best effort into providing a solid, efficient rate, which will hopefully lead to more success with the team.

Overall, I feel that your defensive synergy is great. You do manage to have good switch-ins into most types, but I am most concerned about you not having a Steel-type other than Bronzong, since its Psychic-typing does allow more attacks to hit it for neutral damage. For example, I feel that Scizor could give you a lot of potential problems, since no members on your team can safely into any variant of Scizor, whether it's a Swords Dance or Choice Band variant. In particular, I feel that your team is heavily dependant on you being able to keep Trick Room in effect, since any set-up Pokémon, such as Swords Dance Lucario, is likely to cause major trouble for your team if you allow it to set up, and this could probably happen if it switched in on Porygon2.

Now, I feel any of the changes I suggest should be dedicated to the issues I have address above. I apologize in advance if I possibly change around your team too much, so I will try my best to keep everything the way it is. First I'd like to focus on the major issues with your team, namely conflicting sets that ruin the overall theme for your team. Namely, I feel you should focus on keeping your Trick Room users alive, since without them, you are going to have a difficult time keeping the momentum against your opponent. For this reason, I suggest that you replace your Togekiss set to a "WishPasser" set, outlined below....

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Def
IVs: 0 Spe
Sassy Nature (+SpD, -Spe)
- Wish
- Roost / Encore / Protect
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere / Protect

I suggest that you switch over to this set for various reasons. The first is that it greatly helps in aiding the longevity of your Bronzong and Rhyperior. I notice that your team functions on switching into resisted attacks, so I think using Togekiss as your main Wish supporter is a great idea. I feel this is true because Bronzong makes a great switch-in into Rock- and Ice-type attacks aimed at Togekiss, while Rhyperior easily switches into Electric-type attacks. Second, using this set gives your team a special buffer, since I notice that you might have trouble taking special hits, especially with Cresselia's set playing so suicidedly. This Togekiss should be able to switch into Heatran and Bulky Waters decently enough, although you'll need Roost to take repeated hits.

The moveset is somewhat tailored off of the "Encore Support" set in the analysis, but I changed it around a bit to help our your team better. Wish's main uses have already main described, so I won't go into detail on that. Roost is great if you don't want to use Protect, as Wish can be an unreliable form of recovery if you plan on staying in, especially with Stealth Rock being present in almost all of the matches you will encounter. Air Slash is great at "haxing" your opponent, and it also benefits from STAB gained through Togekiss's Flying-typing. Aura Sphere is great at hitting Steel-types which may give you trouble, but it can be replaced by Protect if you want to run Roost in the second slot. I also recommend Encore as it could give you an easier chance to set up under Trick Room, but it's limited effects might not make it worthwhile, so I recommend you test that before adding it permanently. Generally, your moveset should be Wish / Encore / Air Slash / Protect or Wish / Roost / Air Slash / Aura Sphere.

Namely, I'd also like to point out the advantages to using this set over your current one. Your current set seems counter-productive to your team's strategy. Why do you want to use Thunder Wave to make your opponent's team slower than yours? This is an important thing to keep in mind of when deciding sets, because under Trick Room paralyzed Pokémon will more than likely be able to outspeed you, which is not good!

Next, I feel that Gallade out to be replaced for another Pokémon. While I do understand your reasoning for wanting to use it, it falls under the same problem that Togekiss did: being counter-productive to your team. Using a Choice Scarf Pokémon on a Trick Room team is a bad idea, as your Pokémon will be much slower than your opponent. For this reason, I think another sweeper will be much more helpful than Gallade. As mentioned before, Scizor will definitely be a big issue to your team, since it has a powerful priority to bypass to effects of Trick Room, so I think a Pokémon that can repeatedly switch into Scizor will be of good use here. For this reason, I think either Heatran or Magnezone would be a good idea for your team. The sets I recommend in particular are...

Heatran @ Life Orb
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpA*
IVs: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature (+SpA, -Spe)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Electric
- Taunt

*Oops I accidently gave Heatran Speed EVs before :P

or

Magnezone @ Life Orb
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 172 HP / 88 Atk / 248 SpA
IVs: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature (+SpA, -Spe)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion

Both of these sets, in my opinion, would be solid choices for your team. I recommend either of these two Pokémon because they are some of the best special sweepers in the game, and both have just enough of a low Speed to adequately fit into a Trick Room team. Both also provide extremely useful resistances to your team, namely to Bug- and Dark-type attacks. Since both play similarly, I will instead outline the differences between the two and how they would affect your team. Heatran is a good choice if you want to use the trouble stall teams may give you, as Taunt negates any attempts Blissey will make at trying to stall you out. The set is exactly similar to the one in the analysis, except I recommend Hidden Power Electric over Explosion for two reasons: 1) Hidden Power Electric allows you to maim Gyarados (most stall team's second response to Heatran) and 2) You have Wish support to keep Heatran healthy. Magnezone works in a similar fashion. The main advantage to using Magnezone over Heatran is that you immediately kill any Steel-type you may come across, meaning the threat of priority can be dispatched from the get-go. On the other hand, stall teams are going to give you a bit more trouble, although they shouldn't be too much of a problem anyways. I also forgot to mention that Heatran is great at switching into Toxic and Will-O-Wisp, two status moves that would give your team a lot more trouble.

Next, I feel that Cresselia ought to be replaced as well. Currently, I do not feel that any of your Pokémon would greatly benefit from Dual Screen support, especially with Trick Room limiting the number of turns you have to sweep. Instead, I feel that Cresselia ought to be replaced for another Pokémon with similar typing, and one that could also set up Trick Room for your team. In fact, there is one Pokémon that fills that role exactly. Can you guess what it is? Yep. Slowbro. Here is the set I recommend for your team...

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
IVs: 0 Spe
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spe)
- Trick Room
- Slack Off
- Surf
- Ice Beam

I believe this Slowbro functions similarly enough to Cresselia where you'll enjoy being able to use it in your team. The main reason I recommend Slowbro is that it provides the same key resistances that Cresselia provided for your team, namely resistances to Fighting-type attacks, which will be very useful for this team. Slowbro is certainly no pushover, as this EV spread lets it take a multitude of physical attacks, provided they don't hit you for super effective. By running this set, you will have an easier time against Salamence, who can prove trouble if it manages to get a Dragon Dance. You can also switch in Slowbro into other problematic Pokémon, such as Machamp, which can be a big nightmare to Trick Room teams. In addition, Slowbro would fit your team very well type-wise. Porygon2 can easily switch into Ghost-type attacks, while Heatran/Magnezone wouldn't mind Grass- Dark-type attacks too much. Rhyperior is an excellent switch-in to expected Electric-type attacks.

Next, there are some small changes I feel should be made to increase the overall efficiency of this team.

First, I think Stealth Rock should be user over Hypnosis on Bronzong. Hypnosis got nerfed in Platinum, with it only hitting the opponent 6 out of 10 times, and Stealth Rock will prove to be much more reliable. Second, go ahead and replace Explosion for Earthquake, since you have Togekiss to keep Bronzong healthy.

My second small suggestion is to change Rhyperior's moveset around a little. Name, you'll want it to look something similar to this...

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
IVs: 0 Spe
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spe)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Megahorn

By changing to this set, Rhyperior will have a much easier time taking hits than compared to the current set you are using. You will also be surprised at just how good Swords Dance is on such a great physical sweeper like Rhyperior. With this set, you should be able to hit all of OU for at least neutral damage.

On Porygon2, the set seems fine, but you should really use Leftovers over Chople Berry, as you now have Slowbro to switch into Fighting-type attacks. You may also want to allocate some EVs in Special Defense so you can switch Porygon2 into Salamence's Draco Meteor, but I am not certain how much Special Defense EVs that would require, so you'll have to ask.

Overall, you have a very nice team here, and it is my pleasure to have been able to provide (hopefully) worthwhile suggestion to your team. I'd like to know how your team does on the ladder after implementing these changes, so make sure to let me know! Also, feel free to PM me if you have any more questions regarding your team. Good luck!
 
I think you should replace gallade's trick with trick room and switch to an expert belt. That way u'll be able to reverse the dimensions when needed.
 
First of all, many thanks to all who rated my team. I'm fixin to do a major over haul on my team and, after testing it in some battles, I'll revamp my thread.

To blackhawk11: I did some testing early having replaced Luna with a Forretress and...well...things didn't work out to well.

To DarkCyberElf: I knew I forgot something. XP I am going to go with a SD Rhyperior. The main reson for T-wave on Togekiss and Choice Scraf on Gallade is I noticed I was having trouble keeping Trick Room active but adding in another TRer into the mix and dropping Luna should help with that. (see Flashstorm1's post)

To Flashstorm1: Thank you sooooo much! Heatran and Slowbrow are going to make there way into my team as soon as I get back on Shoddy. With three TRers, I won't need T-wave at all so it's Wishpassing for Togekiss! I'm kinda iffy about dropping Explosion on Bronzong, because it's gotten my a couple of KOs on strong Pokes, but I'll give it a try. The only thing I may change is Rhyperior, possible giving it Subsititute to help with set up.

Once again, thank you so much to all those that rated! I'll edit my revamped team into my first post after I've tested it or, if it's been at least two weeks, I'll post it anew.
 
I'm baaaaack! And my team's better then ever! ^_^ I still have a big problem with Blissey, costing me two of my three matches today, but other than that my teams been doing great. My team's open for rates and tips.
 
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