SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon

bdt2002

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Hey, guys. I'm back with another potential conspiracy theory. I once posted here about... I believe it was my theory about Game Freak, from what I remember. Regardless, I've got a new one that further develops on this. I can summarize this one with a grand total of six words.

Team Plasma was right all along.

Now you ask, what exactly do I mean by that, and how the heck did I come to such a conclusion? Well, hear me out. Assuming I did remember to post about my Game Freak theory, part of that was about how Game Freak created the entirety of the Pokémon multiverse from the inside out and monitors every little action from within the real world by placing themselves within their own multiverse, i.e. the Game Freak members seen scattered throughout the series. For as long as the franchise has been going, the human characters of this mortal plane never thought much of the impact of their actions and have been living and battling with Pokémon for ages now. It's what all of these people were programmed to do and think, and this applies even to all of Pokémon's evil teams- except for one man.

Enter N, the mysterious green haired boy who was raised alongside Pokémon instead of humans. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that N was not of the same origins as other humans in the Pokémon timeline. Some people, myself included, even think he might have actually been a Pokémon himself this whole time, specifcally a Zoroark raised in the forest. Regardless of if this is true, though, N being born and raised around Pokémon, even if he isn't one himself, led him to see how Pokémon truly are in the wild. Unlike humans, Pokémon are generated by Game Freak's numeric algorithms being ran behind the scene, and while they have a sense of free will in their actions, they never had a sense with their purpose of spawning into the game world. They just kind of... did. Destined to do absolutely nothing with other humans until one approaches them.

This is where Team Plasma's motives come into play. As a batch of human characters, they wanted to take N, an entirely unique human, under their wing and raise him up as their king. Led by Ghetsis of the Seven Sages, him and N did actually share one genuine opinion at one point. They both believed Pokémon weren't meant to be taken advantage of by people. I would even go as far as to say that Ghetsis taking in N as his adopted son would have been a chance for the human characters to stand up against Game Freak's tyranny, but there's one small problem. Ghetsis is a human character too, and since he and N are so radically different, Game Freak designed the storyline of Unova to separate N and Ghetsis in the end without giving them the chance to learn the truth that N was already aware of for so long, as a human AI figure able to learn the truth because of his origin story from an in-universe perspective.

Long story short, Game Freak had Ghetsis be an evil and corrupt character to manipulate N this whole time in order to maintain their own ideal picture of the Pokémon universe and effectively silence any human characters who wanted justice for the Pokémon themselves. Together with N, Ghetsis himself could have maybe learned the truth, but Game Freak's corruption ultimately divided Team Plasma in the end and even changed N's own ideals a bit in the process.
 

Yung Dramps

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So I've done some further research into this topic, and have come up with some strange things.

First off, while I didn't find the interview described above I did find another one that addressed Z's cancellation. Masuda's statement on the matter is... iffy.

Interviewer and Masuda said:
“Why did we never end up seeing Pokemon Z?”

Junichi Masuda: “We never really planned to make a third version, we always want to do things that surprise fans. For example, after Black & White people thought Pokemon Gray was going to come next, but instead we made Black & White 2. And the same with X & Y, instead we made Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. People thought Pokemon Z would come next, but taking advantage of the fact it’s the 20th anniversary, we decided to deliver another surprise with Sun & Moon.”
As I implied from my earlier wording, I don't buy this for one solitary second. In order to take this at face value, some discrepancies would have to be addressed, including but not limited to:

1) If there was zero plan for Z to ever be made, why did they do the usual subtle teasers? Why wasn't Zygarde-C just in XY proper? What was the whole spiel in Volcanion's lore concerning "Southern Kalos" about?

2) What were those datamined paired Kalos followup references?

3) If they considered XY fine enough on its own, how the heck did USUM get greenlit?

Then there's this finding from the SM development repository leak which I initially glossed over but now find myself intrigued by now that I'm diving back into this rabbit hole.

This is part of code for determining what mega item trainer types use. This listing was added on Jan 19 2016. (40bbd04dd) For some reason the comments here mention Sina/Dexio being gym leaders. The other battle tree NPCs have mentions here too. For some reason Cynthia is called a BW npc and Anabel is labeled under RS, while Colress gets the more specific BW2.

The only other mention of Sina is a commit from Aug 25 2015 (987882bc489) adding code to check if a 10% Zygarde is the one that she presumably would give you. There's a mention of pokedeco in the params but not much else. The code was later removed in Jan 28 2016 (06ab303fb8). In final SM you only get a Zygarde cube from them, but USUM does have a 10% Zygarde gift though it's not really that special to warrant any checking.


The Zygarde cube functionality would be added on Nov 30 2015 (47df53e4cad).
Originally the Zygarde cube could teach Crunch and Outrage, but this was changed on Jan 14 2016 (3cea7dfb6) probably because it already learned those by level up. Zygarde cell scripts would be added on Jan 17 2016 (7c425020e4664) and Zygarde core functionality on Jan 21 2016 (2d0d42056b5c).
I find it a little suspicious that the components of the Zygarde cells quest were only added in late 2015/early 2016, after the point Z would've likely been released considering the very conspicuous lack of new mainline games that year. Late, unplanned addition as a response to that game's cancellation, yes or yes?
 

ScraftyIsTheBest

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As a side note, but one thing I find a little odd is how Slowpoke, Larvesta, Deino/Zweilous, and Grubbin/Charjabug are all physically oriented while their evolutions Slowbro/king, Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Vikavolt are all specially oriented.

Like, I'm not sure what gives here. Charjabug and Larvesta even lose base Attack points upon evolving in exchange for their Special Attack going way up. Slowbro, Slowking, and Hydreigon hit slightly harder physically than their pre-evolutions but are dominantly specially oriented, even though their pre-evolutions straight up do not hit hard from the special end of the spectrum.

Not saying it's inherently bad per se, but it's an odd dissonance. It does hurt when raising them because once they evolve they now have to switch their attacks or even in the case of Slowpoke in RBY it couldn't even use its higher physical Attack much at all and hits like a wet noodle on the special side. Still, I really wonder what thought went into them when designing them like this.
 

QuentinQuonce

formerly green_typhlosion
So who are these four Rocket Brothers who show up in Silph Co? They all announce themselves like it means... something... anything?... and are never referenced again in any media as far as I'm aware. There's no significance to fighting or beating one of them, all of them, none of them... they just exist, oddly.

Are they four brothers who just joined together, or were they bred in a lab like the Powerpuff Girls to be the ultimate Grunts? The significance and grandiosity with which they declare themselves makes the latter seem plausible. Theories abound!

And oh yeah in LGPE they're the four Rocket Sisters instead because female reboots are all the rage now I guess.
 
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So who are these four Rocket Brothers who show up in Silph Co? They all announce themselves like it means... something... anything?... and are never referenced again in any media as far as I'm aware. There's no significance to fighting or beating one of them, all of them, none of them... they just exist, oddly.

Are they four brothers who just joined together, or were they bred in a lab like the Powerpuff Girls to be the ultimate Grunts? The significance and grandiosity with which they declare themselves makes the latter seem plausible. Theories abound!

And oh yeah in LGPE they're the four Rocket Sisters instead because female reboots are all the rage now I guess.
It worked for Ghostbusters! /s
 
(I was kidding about that part)

It's a pointless change either way because it doesn't shed any new light on the characters.
It probably wasn't meant to shed any light on them, they probably just changed them to women because as lemingue said there werent any women originally and they wanted more variety in the rocket grunts. The """"notable""""" rocket brothers (itself probably the designers just being bored and wanting to add even a little flavor to a fairly slog of a dungeon) probably just seemed like a fun set to change.
 
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What is up with the antennae on these two? Kricketot's antennae are the same as Kricketune's mustache (complete with a second nose), and Kricketune's antennae are the same as its arms.
I hope I'm not the only one who thinks Krickitune is a huge step down from Kricketot. Other than the funny cry nothing about Krickitune is appealing...especially the weird antennae-arm thing now that you mention it.

Also, Krickitune seems to have that extra "nose" but towards the bottom of it's body.
 

Pikachu315111

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As a side note, but one thing I find a little odd is how Slowpoke, Larvesta, Deino/Zweilous, and Grubbin/Charjabug are all physically oriented while their evolutions Slowbro/king, Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Vikavolt are all specially oriented.
Venonat and Venomoth are also like that. Same with Wurmple and Caterpie. And Scatterbug. For some reason this seems to happen a lot with Bug Pokemon.
Slowpoke: At the moment Slowpoke is unable to concentrate its thoughts so special powers hasn't fully developed, it's likely reacting on instinct when it attacks which is little more than flailing around. It's not until it evolves and is under the influence of Shellder's poison is it able to hone its mind and develop its special powers.

Basic/Mid Stage Bugs: They physically do not have the means to unleash (at least strong) special attacks, they're just larvae whose best offense is biting or jabbing with a spike if they have one. And for ones which evolve into cocoons their too busy using most of their energy to transform into their adult stage. When they fully evolve to their adult stage is when they've developed the parts of their body to use special powers.

Deino/Zweilous: Both of them are blind so firing special attacks is that wise. It's just easier for them at the moment to use their powerful jaws to bite on anything which threatens them... or they perceive to be a snack... or it just comes by.

So who are these four Rocket Brothers who show up in Silph Co? They all announce themselves like it means... something... anything?... and are never referenced again in any media as far as I'm aware. There's no significance to fighting or beating one of them, all of them, none of them... they just exist, oddly.
As R_N said, just the game writers having fun with the grunts dialogue. For in-world speculation, whether they're all brothers who joined Team Rocket or are just four close comrades doesn't really matter. They probably decided that if they form a mini-group within Team Rocket it may give them more notoriety which means the higher-ups may pay more attention to them (and maybe lead to promotions in status and money).

Heck, it sorta worked. We're talking about them now, right? And if it wasn't for that we probably wouldn't be talking about any Rocket grunt, even wacky ones just meld together at some point. So, even if they're not as big as a deal they say they are, us remembering even their group name has done it's job.

What is up with the antennae on these two? Kricketot's antennae are the same as Kricketune's mustache (complete with a second nose), and Kricketune's antennae are the same as its arms.
It's just them trying to be cute with the design. Kricketot doesn't have a second nose, it's just that the antenna hub joint is the same color. This was done cause they wanted to make Kricketune look like a stereotypical music composer with a bushy mustache, hence when it evolves the design of the antenna carry over to the nose.

I'm not quite sure why its antenna and arms look similar. Its arms are supposed to look like a string instrument bow. Now it doesn't mention it plucks any strings to make its cry, but it does say it crosses its blades in front of its chest so it may do something to the pitch. BTW, they're based on both the Violin Beetle and Leaf Beetle, both who have their legs and antenna look similar.

Also, Krickitune seems to have that extra "nose" but towards the bottom of it's body.
It's supposed to look like a violin/guitar/cello/similar string instrument. That "second nose" is actually a hollow part of its body which it uses to reverberate its cry according to the Dex.
 

QuentinQuonce

formerly green_typhlosion
We can encounter Pokemon that evolve by Stones and high friendship in the wild. What causes such evolutions?

Also, there are some baby Pokemon that can only be obtained if you breed themwhile the parents hold incenses. Later on, they can be found freely in the wild. Did people just abandon baby Pokemon or something?
My take on this from the Weird Theories thread:

I've always thought this about stone-based and generally manmade evolutions in general. They're short-cutting a natural process that in the wild might take years. Growlithe probably evolves into Arcanine naturally but it takes years of exposure to heat and sun and various elemental energies that are too specific or dangerous to replicate in captivity. Similarly for trade evolutions, this is stated in canon to be "a burst of energy" so there's no reason this couldn't happen under specific conditions in the wild.

We even see this happen in canon; in the manga Gold's Sunkern evolves after receiving a large and very strong dose of sunlight, which is stated to replicate the properties of a Sun Stone.
Basically my thinking is that all of these evolutions can happen naturally. This fits with the idea that humans and Pokemon together are stronger than they are apart; sure a wild Growlithe can evolve into Arcanine naturally, but it might take years. Whereas humans have developed the capability to unlock this process in an instant.

Re incense, I've never really thought too hard about that because it seems evident to me that in Azurill and Wynaut's case it was done to justify them not existing in the previous generation. And again with Chingling, Budew, Bonsly, Mime Jr, and Munchlax. But, if I were to put some thought to it beyond "it's pure gameplay and story segregation", my guess would be that the incense replicates the respective Pokemon's natural breeding environment. Just as some animals are difficult to breed in captivity, certain Pokemon do not breed properly in captivity either. If a species such as Marill breeds without the incense, it may not gestate properly and so the baby is born already evolved as a kind of safeguard against potential threats.

I just came up with that though, so feel free to tear it apart. No doubt someone will.
 

QuentinQuonce

formerly green_typhlosion
Nominative determinism seems very much to be a thing all over the Pokemon world (ref Volkner explaining that Flint only decided to train Fire-types because he learned that a flint can be used to create a flame).

So it's not remotely surprising to see four trainers of different types in Pokemon Colosseum's Pre Gym, all with suitably themed names.

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Grass-type trainer Botan (as in botany), Water-type trainer Liqui (as in liquid), Ground-type trainer Dugo (as in dug or dugout), and, er - Rock-type trainer Gwin. I've been racking my brains and I can't think what that relates to, if anything. Anyone got any idea? Perhaps it doesn't but it's odd to have the first three be themed and not the fourth...
 

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er - Rock-type trainer Gwin. I've been racking my brains and I can't think what that relates to, if anything. Anyone got any idea?
Gwin... Gwin... how do you pronounce it? Is it G-win with "g" as in "gum", or maybe the "w" is supposed to be silent and your supposed to pronounce it like "gem", hence the stone reference. It's a reach but it's the only thing I could think of (having come up with many punny names for my made up Pokemon characters, I'll admit I sometimes have made such strange stretches; why I often include the inspiration for the name cause otherwise future me will likely have no idea what past me was thinking).
 

QuentinQuonce

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Gwin... Gwin... how do you pronounce it? Is it G-win with "g" as in "gum", or maybe the "w" is supposed to be silent and your supposed to pronounce it like "gem", hence the stone reference. It's a reach but it's the only thing I could think of (having come up with many punny names for my made up Pokemon characters, I'll admit I sometimes have made such strange stretches; why I often include the inspiration for the name cause otherwise future me will likely have no idea what past me was thinking).
I assumed to rhyme with -inn, but maybe? If it's meant to evoke or sound like "gem" that's pretty counterintuitive spelling (and this is coming from someone half Irish, with cousins who have names like Oife and Naoise and Caoimhe...)

Ironically Gwin is wing backwards, so would be perfectly suited for a Flying-type specialist.
 
Nominative determinism seems very much to be a thing all over the Pokemon world (ref Volkner explaining that Flint only decided to train Fire-types because he learned that a flint can be used to create a flame).
I'm going to ignore that fact. My theory, which I don't think I mentioned here before, has always been that it's remarkably easy to change your name in the Pokémon universe, and people often do it when they reach significant life milestones. Oak genuinely is asking what you want to be called as a trainer when you start the game, and has completely forgotten what his grandson chose because Gary picked the name, like, yesterday. Gym leaders etc pick names that reflect their types when they take on the job, because it's so much cooler to be Roxanne, the Rock-type leader, than Alex.
 
I'm going to ignore that fact. My theory, which I don't think I mentioned here before, has always been that it's remarkably easy to change your name in the Pokémon universe, and people often do it when they reach significant life milestones. Oak genuinely is asking what you want to be called as a trainer when you start the game, and has completely forgotten what his grandson chose because Gary picked the name, like, yesterday. Gym leaders etc pick names that reflect their types when they take on the job, because it's so much cooler to be Roxanne, the Rock-type leader, than Alex.
So you're saying Silver just accepts whatever the gen 2 PC says his name is because that name is representative of being the player's rival (presumably no longer using whichever name he had before because it was associated with being Giovanni's kid)?
 

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