Anything that doesn't exist yet in National Dex that gets introduced in SV will be available in National Dex. In other words, everything that exists in SV formats will exist in gen9 National Dex formats as well (barring bans of course)
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I have a question on why we cant suspect arceus bug and hell even ice. They are both defensively mid because
a. bad typing defensively
b. Though they have great bulk sr really cuts into defensive potential. For instance though usually they can live tran magmastorm after sr they just die.
c. They cant hold any other item bar plate or Z-crystals which restricts them.
I can understand why ice wont work becuase of its stupidness but why cant bug work???
a. bad typing defensively
b. Though they have great bulk sr really cuts into defensive potential. For instance though usually they can live tran magmastorm after sr they just die.
c. They cant hold any other item bar plate or Z-crystals which restricts them.
I can understand why ice wont work becuase of its stupidness but why cant bug work???
What I said in this post still applies in gen9, tldr the combination of excellents stats and movepool makes it consistently really hard to check with anything, and has ways to get past around anything, especially since it got new toys this gen (Taunt, Bulk Up, Dragon Dance)
Why do people run frustration over return on mons like mlop? is there a reason or is it just personal preference
ditto tricking, ditto has 255 happiness by default so it can trick some players, both are even though as some dittos run 0 happiness
As NatDex already had the home movepools (as mons released through home already were in the game, just not catchable yet), nothing in natdex learnt new moves barring Smeargle, which can now sketch signatures moves from the hisui mons (ceaseless edge, esper wing, etc).
At the time of writing, I believe it has already started.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-ladder-tournament-iv-cycle-1.3722448/
Is this the one?
Has it been confirmed that Punching gloves block contact all together? or is it just negative contact effects like contact pads?
No, it works like Long Reach and Protective Pads before it, as in ALL forms of contact are nulled (Unseen Fist Surging Strikes be damned).
Pretty sure protective pads in particular does not nullify contact, they just prevent opposing contact effects from activating
If this is not the case then the current implementation is wrong, as I've been using pads sneasler for a bit now. Punching Gloves does completely remove contact, though
uh? I thought it was the other way round with pads removing contact and gloves stopping contact-based effects
Neither removes contact, as R8 stated they only prevent contact effects from activating on the holder (eg. rocky helmet, static, flame body), however other contact-based that don't directly affect the attacker still work as usual (eg. weak armor, sand spit). The difference between the two is that pads works on all moves whilst punching glove works on only punch-based moves and gives them a slight boost.
It seems I have made a dumbass mistake and forgot to double check for Protective Pads (this belief was kind of why I was confused about Protective Pads Shifu). Misinfo, my bad.
Has NatDex considered this already (likely yes), and if yes, then why is it a bad idea in general? :
You can only Mega, Z, or Tera; if you do one, you can't do the others for the rest of the battle.
You can only Mega, Z, or Tera; if you do one, you can't do the others for the rest of the battle.
I remember this idea being thrown somewhere at some point, but imo it is a bad idea as it doesn't really solve any issues. Z moves probably would be pretty much not viable, while there would be a huge opportunity cost running any megas, and Tera still would be broken
pretty much what R8 said, Z moves already hardly see usage so it would just become obsolete, and Tera is still broken compared to mega
we also have a precedent built on the fact in gen 7 you could mega and z move in the same battle
In my opinion, the point of National Dex is to see what happens if you are able to transfer old mons/items/moves/abilities from old gens to the current generation. We are still playing in gen9 though, so if something already exists in gen9, it should behaves the same way as it does in game.
In other words, since NatDex is basically an extension of the current games, any possible battle in scarlet and violet should be possible in national dex too, mechanically speaking. As such, Battle Bond working differently in NatDex compared to SV wouldn't make much sense
How are movepool handled? I've only found a rules on natdex 8g saying dexited moves from movepools are returned, and that absent pokemons didn't get updated movepools, but it doesn't seem coherent with what is mae on the builder. Is there a compendium or something that explains it in details?
E.G. : How I read it should make Zapdos with its 9g movepool and all dexited moves, not every moves he could learn in 7g added to the new ones in 9g
E.G. : How I read it should make Zapdos with its 9g movepool and all dexited moves, not every moves he could learn in 7g added to the new ones in 9g
If a pokemon learnt a move at any point since gen7, it will learn the move in national dex, that's it
This is also why gambit gets knock off and pursuit
because bisharp got them and gambit is evolved bisharp