I'm sorry. I do it because I just don't want to constantly be voting and unvoting. I'd rather gather all the information and make final decision near the end. Also, I do post my reads, I just don't necessarily vote in that moment of time. I don't see it as scummy, but I guess I can see where you're coming from. Still, I really don't feel there's enough evidence to incriminate anyone atm. I definitely thought Asek's post was weird, but it was still just one post. I'd need more than that.
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NOC Neighborhood mafia game over, mafia won
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Group 1: Oddish, Twin, Shubaka
Group 2: Empoof, Josh, Dentricos
Group 3: Asek, Haruno, Gale
Group 4: OM Room, Pancake, Steven
Solo: Jalmont+Texas
Group 2: Empoof, Josh, Dentricos
Group 3: Asek, Haruno, Gale
Group 4: OM Room, Pancake, Steven
Solo: Jalmont+Texas
It's my opinion that to get more of that we need to vote people, otherwise we talk like this for most of D1.
Our conversation is pretty NAI (Tex: Not Alignment Indicative), and adding votes into the mix brings stronger context. Imagine instead of saying "Asek looks weird, but I need more", you said "That was weird. Lynch Asek". He's now in a more forced position to act. It's also something we can easily refer to when looking at RVS votes.
I get where you're coming from though. You see votes as incriminating where I see votes as curiousity. Do you think our conversation would change if I had my vote on you?
Thetwinmasters how do you feel about the solos
Guessing at most 1 scum in the solos
I guess I just don't think it's right to vote someone when I know so little about them, but I do understand what you're trying to say. Votes help put pressure on people. Also, what does rvs mean?
About that last part, I'm really not sure. I guess I'd just wonder why you voted me
confirming at most 1 scum in the solos
gut read on jalmont says town, his strong preference for getting verifiable information out there (the neighbourhoods) immediately isn't something i think the mafia would necessarily want while a information seeking town would absolutely want to fact check against that
gut read on jalmont says town, his strong preference for getting verifiable information out there (the neighbourhoods) immediately isn't something i think the mafia would necessarily want while a information seeking town would absolutely want to fact check against that
Vote count:
Steven Snype 1:Empoof
Jalmont 1: Haruno
Asek 1 : Thetwinmasters
Josh 1: Gale Wing Srock
Plur on Steveneven though it is over 2 days to dl
Steven Snype 1:Empoof
Jalmont 1: Haruno
Asek 1 : Thetwinmasters
Josh 1: Gale Wing Srock
Plur on Steven
That really depends on whether or not mafia benifits from knowing who is in what group. For instance if most groups were town?
Which would be more likely if he were scum...
So there's four groups of three, and two solo members. Assuming that there are 4-5 mafia in the game, that means that some potential combinations are:
- One mafia in each group (including the loners, if there is 5 mafia)
- A group with 2 mafia, and two other groups with 1 mafia each
- 2 groups with 2 mafia each
- A group where all three of the members are mafia (though this seems like it'd be too easy so I kinda doubt it)
- At least one mafia in the loners (maybe both?)
This isn't necessarily indicative of what I believe, just some possible ideas
- One mafia in each group (including the loners, if there is 5 mafia)
- A group with 2 mafia, and two other groups with 1 mafia each
- 2 groups with 2 mafia each
- A group where all three of the members are mafia (though this seems like it'd be too easy so I kinda doubt it)
- At least one mafia in the loners (maybe both?)
This isn't necessarily indicative of what I believe, just some possible ideas
From a game design standpoint I imagine the most interesting set up would involve one group with two mafia and at least one group with no mafia but that's some pretty meta reasoning without any real impact on the game as it stands
Steven Snype posted here in case you missed it. It's been <12 hours so I think we're still kush.
I think that's relevant
That's fairly true, and under that assumption we could infer that he or the mafia general have some form of power role that relies on neighbourhood knowledge. I'm comfortable maintaining the gut read town on jalmont but this is valuable knowledge to gain if there becomes reason to suspect him as scummy
I mean, it does give off an element of surprise. If the design is 1 mafia in each group, the question is "who is it?" But if you have a group with no mafia, you get questions like "is that my group?" "Which group has two mafia? Who are they?" "If my group has one mafia, which one is it?" It keeps players on their toes and potentially allows for more interesting interactions and plays.
Gotta say it's pretty nice having been put as no neighbourhood considering this is my first forum mafia game, that's a level of meta-thought I can sit back and watch without having to personally worry about if my private conversations are being leaked
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Lol true. This is definitely gonna be a paranoia-inducing game, and no matter what the setup, everyone who's in a team has to be careful about how they interact with their teammates. I think it's a really interesting idea tbh
My original idea was better, although maybe a tad unbalanced and requiring more players
the label was from signups, trying to console new guy with allegedly scummy tendencies.
regarding setup: host confirmed Max one neighborhood has multiple scum in it, lending credibility to the solos being More Scummy. however, a la Triplets on PS, the scum is likely to try and play the game of "we haven't found any scum in this one group, they have to be scum!" so we really don't know.Haruno said:
I think what we ended up getting is just fine
Wait, tropius confirmed this? If that's the case then the setup is likely:
A neighborhood with 2 mafia, a neighborhood with 1 mafia, another neighborhood with 1 mafia, two neighborhoods with all town (this is including the loners). Though that's assuming there's 4 mafia. If there's 5 or more (though I feel like at most there will be 5), then it'll be an extra neighborhood with 1 mafia and one neighborhood with all town, once again including the loners. This is also disregarding the possibility that one neighborhood is all scum, which I doubt. Though I guess it shouldn't be ruled out. Still the wording of "multiple scum" and not "all scum" leads me to believe there's no group with all scum.
dang i like this activity for less than 12 hours. just got back and skimmed through this thread. i'll post my thoughts.
I believe that neighborhoods shouldn't be trusted. I thought I was in a special case and assumed everyone was in a neighborhood yet thought it odd to only have three people in my neighborhood. I confirm I'm with OM room and Pancakes . Therefore, it is possible that at least one of us three is maf, but we should be figuring it out based on these sets. It would not surprise me if there are two mafia players in one group. 5-9 is a bit odd, but I suppose that 4-10 is much more reasonable of an assumption.
Based off of this, we know that there must be:
Snype / OM Room / pancake
Twin / Shubaka / oddish
Empoof / Josh / Dentricos
Haruno / Asek / Gale Wing Srock
The mafia consists of likely one person per each of these groups.
I just re-read the OP of the signups and missed the part where it said there must only be at least one mafia per neighborhood. I was going to suggest that the mafia must exist of people solely in that group, but after re-reading that it was wrong. I kept my train of thought so I could explain what I meant by my earlier post.
To answer your question Texas Cloverleaf:
Thetwinmasters : I honestly can't make heads or tails of him off of what he's posted so far. He is prone to posting one-liners even if he's village that X must be bad, though that's from my one experience with him. That's just his personality to be very pushy.
Haruno: his posts on page 1 come across as what should we be doing? i haven't played with him much, but I reckon he don't know much. Really the only game I remember playing with him, he was gone for the weekend that I pushed a hail mary mislynch on him, so not a clue.
@ Asek: I got no real feeling on him. I find it odd though that he mentioned the route that people could be swayed to vote through someone else via neighborhoods. I had a feeling that before that point, he attempted to come across as someone that did not appear to be in a neighborhood, possibly to give off that impression and wait for a bit.
Though he posted about not voting D1, I do sympathize with him because I made the same post the first time I played a game and literally everyone was onto me and was being mean so I subbed out of that game and once I did, my sub made one post and everybody hopped off that role's back :< However I don't know his background if he played NOCs here before, so idt if that's really fair to judge.
thoughts on other users atm:
Don't like Gale Wing Srock post much. The tone of it is really easy to disguise stuff and it's not substantive of much. I don't find him scummy, I just don't like the post.
Jalmont be trying to glean info while not really posting very much.
Oddish. is quite active this game
Dentricos , what do you think of shubaka17 ?
Based off of this, we know that there must be:
Snype / OM Room / pancake
Twin / Shubaka / oddish
Empoof / Josh / Dentricos
Haruno / Asek / Gale Wing Srock
The mafia consists of likely one person per each of these groups.
I just re-read the OP of the signups and missed the part where it said there must only be at least one mafia per neighborhood. I was going to suggest that the mafia must exist of people solely in that group, but after re-reading that it was wrong. I kept my train of thought so I could explain what I meant by my earlier post.
To answer your question Texas Cloverleaf:
Thetwinmasters : I honestly can't make heads or tails of him off of what he's posted so far. He is prone to posting one-liners even if he's village that X must be bad, though that's from my one experience with him. That's just his personality to be very pushy.
Haruno: his posts on page 1 come across as what should we be doing? i haven't played with him much, but I reckon he don't know much. Really the only game I remember playing with him, he was gone for the weekend that I pushed a hail mary mislynch on him, so not a clue.
@ Asek: I got no real feeling on him. I find it odd though that he mentioned the route that people could be swayed to vote through someone else via neighborhoods. I had a feeling that before that point, he attempted to come across as someone that did not appear to be in a neighborhood, possibly to give off that impression and wait for a bit.
Though he posted about not voting D1, I do sympathize with him because I made the same post the first time I played a game and literally everyone was onto me and was being mean so I subbed out of that game and once I did, my sub made one post and everybody hopped off that role's back :< However I don't know his background if he played NOCs here before, so idt if that's really fair to judge.
thoughts on other users atm:
Don't like Gale Wing Srock post much. The tone of it is really easy to disguise stuff and it's not substantive of much. I don't find him scummy, I just don't like the post.
Jalmont be trying to glean info while not really posting very much.
Oddish. is quite active this game
Dentricos , what do you think of shubaka17 ?
"I will say that it may be possible for a person to be on multiple Neighborhoods, and only one neighborhood can have more than one scum, there are 4 neighborhoods so some might have 1, some might have none, but only one can have more than one. Also each neighborhood can vote during the day to banish someone out of the chat for the night if they choose, a majority vote is needed for this"
Quoted from signups. There can be 0 -2 mafia in each neighborhood xd
I think Shubaka17 gave reads that helped get the ball rolling. His haruno policy lynch makes sense for a self proclaimed scummy meta player, although I wouldn't policy somebody who has yet to play extreamely scummy (bar his early joke lynch).
His Twin read makes sense as twin went after an easy target (Asek) who just said something they knew 8 and rising players disagreed with. However its hypocritical since he did the same thing.
As it stands I would hold off on scumreading shubaka.
Quoted from signups. There can be 0 -2 mafia in each neighborhood xd
I think Shubaka17 gave reads that helped get the ball rolling. His haruno policy lynch makes sense for a self proclaimed scummy meta player, although I wouldn't policy somebody who has yet to play extreamely scummy (bar his early joke lynch).
His Twin read makes sense as twin went after an easy target (Asek) who just said something they knew 8 and rising players disagreed with. However its hypocritical since he did the same thing.
As it stands I would hold off on scumreading shubaka.
Lmfao shubaka's known for subpar play but accusing someone of scum based off shit before the game mfw.
At whoever suggested a all mafia team as one of the groups, that is literally retarded since it would make no sense and defeat the purpose of having a group in the first place when they can all talk in mafia chat.
If anyone is in the two mafia/one village group they are 100% fucked.
It wouldn't surprise me if tropius stupidly did a host error and stated how many mafia are in the groups but someone bring up a relevant post plz thanks.
I am most likely leaning for
3 2:1 village/mafia ratio
1 all village squad.
1 of the two solos being a mafia for a grand total of four mafia.
5 is unrealistic but still somewhat plausible I guess.
6 mafia means village autoloses
At whoever suggested a all mafia team as one of the groups, that is literally retarded since it would make no sense and defeat the purpose of having a group in the first place when they can all talk in mafia chat.
If anyone is in the two mafia/one village group they are 100% fucked.
It wouldn't surprise me if tropius stupidly did a host error and stated how many mafia are in the groups but someone bring up a relevant post plz thanks.
I am most likely leaning for
3 2:1 village/mafia ratio
1 all village squad.
1 of the two solos being a mafia for a grand total of four mafia.
5 is unrealistic but still somewhat plausible I guess.
6 mafia means village autoloses
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