I always thought that there was the super-minority system, but apparently that's something I've made up in my head or whatever. But basically, like the current system if a suspect is voted OU twice (or by 2/3 +1) then it remains OU without the ability to nominate it again. I'm not exactly sure where I got this from (maybe I just implied it???), but I thought that was the case somehow.
SO if that really is in my crazy topsy-turvy world then yeah can we please stop nominating Excadrill I mean holy shit, it's been voted OU how many times to the point where it's almost extreme. Like, if for some reason Excadrill discovers it's super incredible set that sweeps whole teams easier than it kinda already does (it does have things that beat it, but I mean let's just say it becomes Garchomp-esque ??) then can we nominate it. Nominating it over and over with the same reasons as the last test is either
a) going to make it one of the only pokemon who has been voted OU in, what is it around 3-ish suspect tests
or
b) just make everyone consider it auto-suspect, and we all know how well we take things that we already consider 'inherently' uber
I mean, maybe just lay off of it for a round or two? That'd be cool...
Anyway to the votes:
This round I didn't vote a single thing to be banned, though, to be honest, I was on the fence about Garchomp. I didn't care one way or another if it was banned -- I mean I can see the benefits and the cons of it being in the tier and they seemed to balance for me. So I can't blame the super-majority that happened in the vote, and I don't want to go on a whole rage-fest of "oh God you guys are so dumb, jeez," because honestly Garchomp in the tier or out of the tier makes little to no difference to me.
The other hot topics are Drizzle and Thundurus, on the other hand. My reasoning with Thundurus was a bit odd, the way I see it Thundurus is a very valuable support pokemon, Prankster Taunt and not to mention Thunder Wave are so God-damn valuable it's hard to get over. The amount of times Prankster Thunder Wave has saved my life in a battle shouldn't even be a number someone can comprehend, but believe you me, it does exist. But I think that Thundurus' typing, power, and ability to support a team is something that the metagame needs, more over than what people need. Back in 4th gen you set-up your sweeper and it was game over. Bar the random Choice Scarf user that would KO you, getting your sweeper set up (love you SD Luke), was the end-all-be-all. The great thing about Thundurus is that not only can it take a hit effectively, but it can stop that game-ending sweep with its ability to paralyze. In all my experiences with Thundurus it wasn't the Nasty Plot set that won me games, it was always sets that carried Taunt or Thunder Wave, perhaps due to my playstyle, but Thundurus really puts a team support that I think is really necessary into the metagame.
As for Drizzle I'll admit I'm in the keep weather camp. I see diversity and unique pokemon making their claim in the 5th gen meta, something which I didn't really see in 4th gen. Drizzle, Drought, Sandstream, and even the occasional Snow Warning give the metagame a very diverse feel to me, something that I can't really express at this time. Sure it becomes "keep your weather player alive longer," but it also becomes a lot more than that. Team building becomes another thing altogether. Instead of "well I sweep if I remove X, Y, and Z," it becomes, "well I can sweep if I remove X, Y, and Z if my weather is up, but can I do it without my weather?" And that, to me, makes people create better teams. It isn't just a case of perpetual sand causing you to lose 6% every turn; it's Fire-type moves losing their effectiveness when rain is pouring, or it's Solarbeam working when the Sun is shining. It becomes more "I need to create a diverse team that works no matter the situation," over, "I need to remove Blissey so my Gengar can sweep." And that, to me, is probably the most terrific metagame I could ask for.
But that, like most things in 5th gen, is split 50/50. You like it or you don't. I have no hostility towards the parties that want to get rid of weather, and that's something I really hate to see in this thread. No matter the outcome it becomes, "the voters are stupid they didn't ban Drizzle/Thundurus," when everyone should really just understand where the others are coming from (I even understand Excadrill -- I've talked to many people about it!!). The amount of bashing the voters in this thread is sad though -- not something that lightens the soul.
