I think it's funny that you say Cinderace should be legal in this meta because there's too many fat teams, then you go on to talk about how the best way to handle it is by adding fat stuff to your team that Cinderace can't handle.after gettin reqs gon say I'm votin no ban
i like cind in a meta full of toxapex blissey toxapex clef toxapex corv toxapex toxapex toxapex rocky helmet mon #2. swear that's all mafuckas be usin these days
each set I've noticed had its own problems vs fat. band they just go helmet pex/hippo every time and scout the move. life orb gets fucked by residual so easier for stall to beat and offense to pick it off w/ priority. if its boots its got power issues. obv all the sets are top tier (a+/s rank shit fasho) but nothin breakin imo. it'll just be the tier defining offensive threat. this mon can also be very unreliable due to all of its moves feelin 70% accurate
ladderin I saw a lot of cool picks like rhyperior, arcanine, rotom-w, slowbro, scarf urshifus, more rain, more physdef hippos etc etc had enough of this stale ass meta. if we drop cind im tellin u there will be more color and flavor in the tier. we already have a mon called urshifu that yall were complaining about in the beginning then stopped talkin about. this will be the same situation tbh
all what I said was prolly really controversial but ion give af bro. vote ban if u wanna keep usin and seein fat shit 24/7. pce out
The end result of Cinderace in the meta is probably just going to be fat teams that can more easily blanket check its multiple sets.