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Forget Aggron for a second. I asked a option for Pursuit users, and Absol isn't cutting .

Sure, it is the most powerful Pursuit user of UU, but what Absol can do if Mismagius or Alakazam gets a free sub while you switch in?
Drapion and Skuntank can take the obvious HP Fighting from Mismagius. Absol can't.
And Drapion can't take a NP Thunderbolt from Mismagius, or a CM Focus Blast from Alakazam while Skuntank can.

Sure, Aggron is a problem if you use Skuntank (which i think it's the best choice if you want a poke with the Pursuit job), even worse if you DON'T Rock Polish right after unless you know the opponent's team.
Because the opponent can just switch Slowbro/Milotic/Weezing/whatever tank in while you RP... and you need to switch right after if you don't want Aggron dead/crippled.
Head Smash first, and then even Slowbro is 2HKOed, taking out a counter to a free Aggron sweep later.

If you want a poke with the Pursuit job on your team, go with Skuntank and have something else that can take a Head Smash or two, or at least something that can revenge it(Vaccum Wave Blaziken? Scarf Primeape?)
 
I need something that can take a Head Smash, Aggron can come in on CB Tomb like nothing else, then it RP's and runs through my team. I don't think my team could take losing a single poke though.
 
Hmm... what?
I don't understand what you're saying lol

Are you saying you need a poke to take a Head Smash?
If so, assuming you're not using Skuntank, go with Steelix.
If someone(or even you) should use Skuntank, i believe Quagsire it's your best bet.

If that's not what you're saying... could you care to explain to me again?
 
Donphan also takes Head Smashes pretty well, as does Rhyperior if you're looking for more offensive options than Steelix.
 
I agree with Roflkip.
Also, Donphan can Rapid Spin or Stealth Rock.
Rhyperior can RockPolish on the switch and begin a sweep.
Steelix takes far less damage thanks to its gigantic def (I guess), and can SR too, or Roar for x2-Field damage.
 
Those are not the best answers to Aggron at all, because you have to rely on it not having Magnet Rise as well as the fact that they take huge damage from either Aqua Tail or Low Kick.

The best answer to Aggron is easily Quagsire, but Intimidate Hitmontop also works decently if you can keep it healthy with Wish. Hariyama and Poliwrath are also quite decent, but in addition to lack of recovery the former takes huge damage from Low Kick, whilst the latter lacks both attacking power and decent utility with the bulk required to take hits well, so neither are quite as impressive.
 
Although Quagsire and Gastrodon do the job better, Why not Claydol?
It has decent bulk, Resists Headsmash+Low Kick/EQ and Aqua tail is really the only thing that can hit it hard enough
 
Steelix stops CB Aggron and can roar out Magnet Rise Aggron. Hitmontop with Mach Punch is probably the best answer to RP Aggron. Milotic works in a pinch as well.
 
Lemmiwinks MkII said:
Those are not the best answers to Aggron at all, because you have to rely on it not having Magnet Rise as well as the fact that they take huge damage from either Aqua Tail or Low Kick.

The best answer to Aggron is easily Quagsire, but Intimidate Hitmontop also works decently if you can keep it healthy with Wish. Hariyama and Poliwrath are also quite decent, but in addition to lack of recovery the former takes huge damage from Low Kick, whilst the latter lacks both attacking power and decent utility with the bulk required to take hits well, so neither are quite as impressive.
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Damn, i was about to post exactly what you posted, then my computer resetted lol

Hariyama actually needs defense evs, or else it will be 2HKOed by Aggron. Poliwrath takes Head Smash better and can put a Sub up even after 2 Head Smashes(assuming no Stealth Rock and no Spikes), but that leaves Poliwrath in a really bad shape.

The one who's made to counter Aggron is Quagsire. Steelix, and especially Donphan and Rhyperior are screwed by Magnet Rise. Steelix not so much, so it' still a good choice.

The safest bet is easily Quagsire. But Hitmontop can do a nice job. Steelix needs more caution, while Donphan and Rhyperior can't take Head Smash followed by Aqua Tail and are totally walled if Aggron has Magnet Rise.


PS:Claydol has the same problems with Magnet Rise Aggron.

Random Pizzaman, for Steelix to Roar Magnet Rise Aggron, it will need to take a attack(probably Aqua Tail) unless you predict. Meaning that Aggron wins in the long run.
 
It's not an advertisement or a brag or anything like that, but if Cress gives you trouble, why not try out Raichu for a spin?

The encore set always you switch in on a predicted sub/CM and encore. Sub on the switch and then proceed from there. (if your confident you can take em on, Nasty plot. If not T-bolt or just switch out)

It works well with Spikes support to rack up the damage. Of course many think that Clefable, but Raichu's speed and movepool allows him to be slightly more versatile in such a manner. (mainly outspeeding faster pokes)
 
wow, I am doing awesome with an all offensive team, and its working really well, bulky froslass + calm mind raikou + swords dance absol is so broken
 
PK Gaming said:
It's not an advertisement or a brag or anything like that, but if Cress gives you trouble, why not try out Raichu for a spin?

The encore set always you switch in on a predicted sub/CM and encore. Sub on the switch and then proceed from there. (if your confident you can take em on, Nasty plot. If not T-bolt or just switch out)

It works well with Spikes support to rack up the damage. Of course many think that Clefable, but Raichu's speed and movepool allows him to be slightly more versatile in such a manner. (mainly outspeeding faster pokes)
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Because better Encore users already exist and are more useful than Raichu. Alakazam for speedy offense, Jumpluff for speedy support, and Clefable for bulky support. Plus mono-Electric in particular is just asking for Dugtrio....
 
And that's why you run Shed Shell.

Alakazam (I find) is better used as a special sweeper. Besides, Raichu has a wider movepool (access to wish etc) and is actually slightly bulkier.


If jumpluff uses the encore set, it doesn't really have the power to back it up.

Clefable is to slow etc.

I'm sure that Raichu isn't the BEST encorer, but to say he is outclassed isn't fair.
 
Lemmiwinks MkII said:
Because better Encore users already exist and are more useful than Raichu. Alakazam for speedy offense, Jumpluff for speedy support, and Clefable for bulky support. Plus mono-Electric in particular is just asking for Dugtrio....
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You forget that this mono electric can beat the hell out of grounds with a reasonable SpA surf.
 
so, on to possible suspects:

Cressilia: even if you run absol, this thing is broken. signal beam is dangerous
Porygon-Z: either or, needs scarf to function, so it comes down to switching things like froslass into tri-attack and set up spikes to wear it down, but, eh, not a lot
Alakazam:Speciel attacker can be broken, but again, not enough to tell
Rhyperior: It may be because I run HP: grass on moltres and raikou (or do I?) but this thing is weak
Raikou: Manageble. not too broken
Frosslass: This is one broken bitch, bulk-lass is amazing, and super speed taunt is valuble with so many set up sweepers
 
Uberiffic said:
so, on to possible suspects:

Cressilia: even if you run absol, this thing is broken. signal beam is dangerous
Porygon-Z: either or, needs scarf to function, so it comes down to switching things like froslass into tri-attack and set up spikes to wear it down, but, eh, not a lot
Alakazam:Speciel attacker can be broken, but again, not enough to tell
Rhyperior: It may be because I run HP: grass on moltres and raikou (or do I?) but this thing is weak
Raikou: Manageble. not too broken
Frosslass: This is one broken bitch, bulk-lass is amazing, and super speed taunt is valuble with so many set up sweepers
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What exactly are you tripping on? Sorry but if you think Alakazam/Rhyperior are broken yet Raikou/Moltres/Torterra are not you need to play a lot more UU. PZ "needs scarf to function", well that just says it all.
 
Smurf. said:
What exactly are you tripping on? Sorry but if you think Alakazam/Rhyperior are broken yet Raikou/Moltres/Torterra are not you need to play a lot more UU. PZ "needs scarf to function", well that just says it all.
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Torterra? Really?

I mean, you can think of Torterra as a slow Garchomp. Immunity to Thunder Wave, STAB Earthquake+a STAB 120 BP move, Swords Dance, hates Ice Shard, it's bulky...
But it's exactly the speed that lets Torterra down. You can fix it with Rock Polish, but then it won't break walls down with sheer force. You can do that with Swords Dance, but then anything faster(and that's quite a lot) can scare Torterra off.
Well, Torterra can do other things, like walling, Leech Seed, etc...
 
Smurf. said:
You forget that Dugtrio has superior speed and can boast STAB band EQ.
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And that's why you run shed shell.
Dugtrio won't like a surf switching in anyway. (And if Raichu is somehow behind a sub, Dugtrio loses)

PS: Torterra Broken? How so. (Not questioning you, just curious)
 
Well after 6+ hours of playing (and now more) I have seen 3 porygon-z, 2 alakazams, 6 rhyperior, and well, although my team hates raikou, I don't want it to be waa waa I lost its broken, I would amagine it would be manageble with the fact that cress, clefabe, and registeel are on everyteam
 
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