I once thought Frosslass was UU. THEN I realised the potential it had outside of the lead position. :/
No, I don't have "OMG Super effective hits!" syndrome. Raikou has 2 MASSIVE, glaring problems.
1: It cannot raise it's speed. It IS fast from the get-go, but anything that outspeeds can deal some good damage. Well, it CAN raise it's speed, but running a Scarf on Raikou is a bad idea, as it allows Duggy to walk all over it.
2: It has no priority moves. Unless it Mimics something, but... no, I shouldn't have to point out the problem here.
It also has coverage problems, but it can run weaker moves and HP to hit a lot of stuff, so that isn't as bad.
Is it good? Yes. Is it broken? ...not in my opinion.
Do you realize that those make Raikou actually appear
better than Cresselia?
Raikou is faster than Cresselia, and by your logic, better.
I would actually agree with you about Raikou being better than Cresselia but I am definitely under the impression that you don't think so and accidentally made these implications.
@ Bluewind: Not to be a Captain Obvious, but Cress is a defensive Pokemon, so attack, speed, priority, and coverage really don't mean shit to her. She got banned by walling everything (EVERYTHING), sweeping offensive teams, and dicking around with almost any playstyle you can think of.
Raikou has more than its fair share of problems in UU and I'd actually be willing to say that it's outright worse than any of the other BLs we've had so far. Of course, I still do think it's BL material, but mostly for the reason that it's just plain better than the vast majority of UU as it stands now and has horribly inconsistent checks with only one full-blown counter.
Raikou, again by those reasons, is better than Cresselia. Once we establish that SubCM Cresselia didn't wall shit, Raikou appears to be, well, THAT much better. Raikou has inconsistent checks? Cresselia has all of those checks and other fast hard-hitters like Houndoom, Drapion, and Scyther.
This is why I have been saying how horribly hypocritical it is to ban Cresselia for a SubCM set and not Raikou. It literally makes no sense when you
dialectically compare the two sets.
Magmortar is most definitely underrated and worthy of UU. Its so much better than Blaziken I dont know why people still use Ken's wallbreaker set (especially the slow one). Its only issue is switching in, since everything hurts it (best chance is coming in on Stealth Rock or maybe SD from a Venusaur).
Fine I'll respond to this.
"Blaziken can use Superpower and STAB Vacuum Wave to take out Pokemon like Arcanine, Azumarill, SpD Milotic, Lanturn, and the like. Magmortar cannot do anything mixed Blaziken can't from a wall breaking standpoint".
Magmortar is a much better Life Orb sweeper with Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, and HP something due to its better coverage, but if you're beating stall teams mixed Blaziken is probably second-to-none.
Plus I have it in my signature so it is therefore better and I know more about it.
Er Cresselia relies on bulk and Moonlight to set up; SubCM Cress pretty much expects to take hits while sweeping but it's bulky enough to absorb them and retaliate. Raikou can't count on getting more than one Calm Mind more often than not, and it can't take hits nearly as well as Cresselia either.
It wasn't banned for Moonlight; It was banned for SubCM. I will give you that it can't take hits like Cresselia, but it has one weakness that is absolutely absurd to run on any Choiced Pokemon and is thus less exploitable.
Seriously, dialectically compare their relevant traits and you'll see what I mean when I call it a hypocrisy to ban one and not the other. If Cresselia was banned for another set, it would make sense.
