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Quick afternote that although it gets boring on the ladder, rain is dominant in tournament play in its ability to take down standard balance right now. You basically have to choose either more anti-rain or more anti-balance and risk having a significant weakness to the other, especially since right now the standard balance metagame has not shifted to include those rain counters.
As you've seen from my posts I was originally against banning Damp Rock, but I've switched sides having looked at the opposing arguments and playing against rain myself.
I'll highlight a point brought up recently here: The vast majority of experience against rain among not-so-great battlers (myself included) is against shoddily built rain teams piloted by shoddy people. We can see by Flare's success that even a decently built rain team (referring to Flare's experiences during the testing stage) used by an above-average player can maul standard balance.
When considering whether something is broken, it's best to consider the suspect being used to its greatest capacity - Honchkrow used by idiots would have been easy to deal with, but it was banned all the same. We should do the same with rain - in the hands of a good player it mauls, I speak from experience. You can use Toxicroak / Milotic all you'd like but rain can still get past you.
I'm wondering if we can actually call for a vote on this or not, as far as I know there's no deadline we can wait for.
As far as Rain being suspected it's really a hard decision. In therory there are alot of reasons to vote it out because as flare said 180 base stab without any set up moves as well as 140 - 180 base speed. When a good player abuses that and abuses it well its near impossible to stop even with all there great checks and counters to rain sweepers.
First of all, yes, Rain is absolutely broken as fuck in theory, but in practice, it is a completely different story. A good rain player is not near impossible to stop, even with a normal team. It's called planning ahead and stopping them get momentum again. I've played plenty of well-played Rain Dance teams (And plenty of crap ones, might I add), and I haven't lost many at all.
To the bolded point: A good player using any team would always be good. I have said a bajillion times already. You do realise a good Stall team in the hands of a good player is also "near-impossible" to stop, even with your stall-breakers and what not?? What do we do now?? Do we ban Leftovers?? For the record, WhiteQueen got to #1 with a BlizzSpam team, and that is definitely not something I would call broken.
First of all, yes, Rain is absolutely broken as fuck in theory, but in practice, it is a completely different story. A good rain player is not near impossible to stop, even with a normal team. It's called planning ahead and stopping them get momentum again.
I'm going to stop you right here, sure when you talk about stopping Rains momentum it seems nice, but how exactly do you plan on stopping the momentum? Surely anyone can set up 2 times in one game. If you stop them once, albeit taking heavy casualties, how do you plan to stop them twice?
Like I have said you can't base this off the ladder, since we have been speaking of flareblitz's team so much lets continue with that. Can you beat flareblitz ,when he uses his rain team, using a "regular team" most of the time?
To the bolded point: A good player using any team would always be good. I have said a bajillion times already. You do realise a good Stall team in the hands of a good player is also "near-impossible" to stop, even with your stall-breakers and what not??
To be honest, that is quite a flawed argument considering stall does lose to stall breakers on a majority of occasions. The difference is stall is weak to stall breakers and each Rain sweeper is weak to different Pokemon. The playstyle isnt weak to any other play style or group of pokemon. Each pokemon has 1 maybe 2 checks/counters which can easily be dealt with by other rain abusers.
What do we do now?? Do we ban Leftovers?? For the record, WhiteQueen got to #1 with a BlizzSpam team, and that is definitely not something I would call broken.
Whitequeen's Blizzspam team is not really what I would consider a "viable playstyle", but more like a team that abuses a move that the metagame can be very weak to.It is also kind of irrelevant to the topic of rain seeing as it's not in question of being broken since Blizzspam is very easy to stop while rain is.
I'm going to stop you right here, sure when you talk about stopping Rains momentum it seems nice, but how exactly do you plan on stopping the momentum? Surely anyone can set up 2 times in one game. If you stop them once, albeit taking heavy casualties, how do you plan to stop them twice?
1. Send in Ambipom (or any fast Pokemon, for that matter) and Taunt the Rain Dancer.
2. Send in someone with a Substitute + Grass / Electric attacks, so that after the Rain Dancer dances you get a free shot at the rain sweeper coming in or at least the chance to stall out his rain turns with more Substitutes.
3. Send in a Sunnybeamer and replace the rain with sun once the Rain Dancer sets up (e.g. Uxie puts up Rain, then on his U-turn you use Sunny Day).
4. Send in a bulky supporter and spam Thunder Wave so his rain sweeper gets paralyzed at once.
Alchemator said:
When considering whether something is broken, it's best to consider the suspect being used to its greatest capacity - Honchkrow used by idiots would have been easy to deal with, but it was banned all the same. We should do the same with rain - in the hands of a good player it mauls, I speak from experience. You can use Toxicroak / Milotic all you'd like but rain can still get past you.
You can use wall-breakers like Mixed Sceptile and Blaziken but stall might still be able to outstall you, especially if it's played by a good player (look at Eo's RMT in the UU team forum, for example). That's not the point. Like shrang said, you have to expect that a good player using rain would win a fair share of games. Just like you cannot expect to win every game, you have to expect to lose some games to rain as well.
I feel Rain is a strong, albeit definitely beatable, playstyle.
PS: Somehow I get the feeling that this is going to happen again soon.
I remember TechniTop being a decent rain counter for offensive teams since it wastes rain turns.
And while we're on the subject of Poliwrath, I found someone using a Poliwhirl and was shocked because apparently Poliwhirl has 90 base speed and Poliwrath has 70 base speed. I thought they didn't do slower evolutions until after Gen 2!
Like I have said you can't base this off the ladder, since we have been speaking of flareblitz's team so much lets continue with that. Can you beat flareblitz ,when he uses his rain team, using a "regular team" most of the time?
I've played Flare's rain team a few times on the ladder using a regular team (Not a bullshit gimmick one). I won every time. I warstoried one. Read it if you're not familiar. I'll ask you this though: Have you played panamaxis or any of the other people who've made #1 in OU with Stall team?? Can you beat them using a "regular team" most of the time?? Now answer me whether you think Leftovers should be banned.
To be honest, that is quite a flawed argument considering stall does lose to stall breakers on a majority of occasions. The difference is stall is weak to stall breakers and each Rain sweeper is weak to different Pokemon. The playstyle isnt weak to any other play style or group of pokemon. Each pokemon has 1 maybe 2 checks/counters which can easily be dealt with by other rain abusers.
Uh, no. Stall loses to stall-breakers at least twice as less often than a rain team does against anti-rain Pokemon. Rain does not beat everything else either. Please read the 20 page clusterfuck on the Rain thread before making such a comment. Rain is weak to pretty much every style when the Rain isn't up either, just a thought for you. If you look at the Top 20, all of the Pokemon in there can be used to beat Rain in some way.
Whitequeen's Blizzspam team is not really what I would consider a "viable playstyle", but more like a team that abuses a move that the metagame can be very weak to.It is also kind of irrelevant to the topic of rain seeing as it's not in question of being broken since Blizzspam is very easy to stop while rain is.
How is Rain any different Blizzspamming?? While I think the team is overhyped, if it did indeed get so high on the leaderboard, how is it not a "viable playstyle"?? Before you answer that, please do not give me the crap "Oh rain sweepers have 180/180/150 offenses" because in the end, those numbers end up meaning nothing if the efficiency isn't there.
At it's simplest: Rain is a team of 3 or 4 sweepers. If you have 4 Pokemon who can survive a hit and status/kill them or outstall them, you win.
First up, your team. Don't have a water resist? Why not? Rain has always been out there and if you should have prepared for it. Running Hail/Sand? Then don't sack your NFE until you know the other team well enough. Toxic Spikes, Taunt, Substitute are all useful. For offensive teams, pack plenty of priority. I don't know yet how to answer the argument that preparing for Rain weakens you against the metagame... I think most Pokemon can help out against Rain.
Here's how the top 15 Pokemon in UU can fare against Rain:
Milotic: Bulky Water with HP Grass isn't 2HKOed by Kabutops with Leftovers 45.3% - 53.7%, OHKOs back. If Kabutops has a SD it will do 91.1% - 107.6%. Milotic can 2HKO Qwilfish with Surf while Qwilfish does 32.3% - 38.2% with Poison Jab. Gorebyss/Omastar only does 41.7% - 49.4% to Milotic with Surf. Obviously loses against Ludicolo but can Toxic it before the 2HKO.
Venusaur: Puts a Rain setup or sweeper to sleep. Offensive versions can sometimes live through a Gorebyss Ice Beam and OHKO back. 89.7% - 105.6%. Defensive versions definitely survive. Venusaur is not OHKOed by any other Rain sweeper without boosts. Scarf versions outspeed Omastar and Gorebyss, live through Kabutops' Stone Edge and kill it.
Mismagius: Taunts the Rain setup in midgame or Substitutes on the switch to a sweeper, wasting 5 Rain turns and hitting the sweeper before death.
Spiritomb: 252HP versions are never OHKOed by any Rain sweeper. Can burn physical sweepers. Can set up Calm Minds on Rain setup
Arcanine: If Kabutops is dead, Extremespeed the sweepers. If Kabutops has not appeared, don't bring out Arcanine unless you have Hidden Power Grass.
Uxie: Thunder Waves any sweeper, never OHKOed. Great help.
Registeel: see Uxie
Rhyperior: Wastes Rain turns with Substitute. Otherwise, it's just fodder. Try RPing twice on Uxie, it's fun!
Houndoom: Has Sucker Punch, Kabutops ensures its death.
Hitmontop: Can Intimidate physical sweepers, Technitop uses Fake Out to waste rain turns (Don't Fake Out Kabutops, you'll be Aqua Jetted) Mach Punch is very good except on Qwilfish.
Clefable: Unless it is an offensive version, never OHKOed Thunder Waves / Tricks Flame Orb on a sweeper
Alakazam: Taunts setup, can Substitute on setup too.
Ambipom: Fake Out wastes Rain turns but team members are left to take the Water attacks aimed at it.
Rotom: Scarf Rotom kills Omastar and Gorebyss. Substitute versions waste Rain turns. Easily sweeps through all Rain sweepers bar Ludicolo if all the setup are dead and Rain isn't up.
Sceptile: After Rain stops, Specs versions devastate Rain teams. Subseed versions Substall.
Other helpful Pokemon in the top 50:
Mesprit with Thunder Wave
SubPunch Azumarill
SubRoost Moltres
Offensive Kabutops
Toxicroak
Torterra's Wood Hammer hurts any sweeper on the switch in, defensive versions can take Waterfall.
Altaria (water resist to use as fodder)
Dragon Dance Feraligatr with Return after Rain runs out
Chansey for non Specs Special attackers
Blastoise with Toxic
Drapion, Toxic Spiker
Cloyster, Toxic Spiker
Leafeon against Kabutops
Lanturn
Absol except against Kabutops
Tangrowth
Exeggutor
Electrode Taunts and outspeeds Gorebyss and Omastar
Secondly, facing Rain. You see a lead Electrode, you better start thinking about how to waste Rain turns. Which Pokemon are useless (they're quite apparent). These Pokemon you need to sack to waste Rain turns. If you run Scarfed Sleep, good for you. Put Electrode to sleep. If you see other leads that are not so obviously Rain... (Ambipom or Uxie) Then Rain will probably be set up. That's fine. Once Rain is set up, the sweepers are going to come in. If you're lucky, your current Pokemon can Thunder Wave the sweeper on the switch in. Then you have to constantly switch around to bear the brunt of the Rain attacks while you wait for the first turn of Rain to run out. As Rain runs out, you must get your Subber/Taunter in to prevent Rain or throw up a Sub. If you don't have one of these, get your hardest hitter in to mash the Rain setup, or get ready to Thunder Wave yet another sweeper on the switch in. Or, bring in your own setup: Absol, Feraligatr (hope you have Return for Ludicolo), RPerior or Aggron can potentially RP twice on the Rain Dance and switch in. Then it's back to stalling Rain. Usually you can sweep when the Rain is down and they try to sweep when Rain is up. You have to rely on intelligent switches to survive.
you'd think that a grass, water, steel core would be good enough to stall rain long enough, but the fact is that SD ludicolo rips shit like that up. It also lols at offensive checks like toxicroak too.
Facing Rain is pretty much a high stakes prediction war where one move on the defender's part results in guarenteed loss. Can't say that for any other playstyle.
EDIT: Also, people are mentioning solutions that are quite frankly fucking ridiculous... yeh nah lets chuck an isolated sunnybeamer on a standard offensive team for no other purpose but to check rain. Technitop... was that meant to be a serious suggestion?
Offense has only one really viable rain check: taunt LO missy, and thats assuming that you can actually survive the initial 8 turns of rain with a team of fragile sweepers.
Facing Rain is pretty much a high stakes prediction war where one move on the defender's part results in guarenteed loss. Can't say that for any other playstyle.
A wrong prediction could result in losing against ANY playstyle. Rain is no different. You might notice in my warstory I made numerous misplays.
Offense has only one really viable rain check: taunt LO missy, and thats assuming that you can actually survive the initial 8 turns of rain with a team of fragile sweepers.
Offense doesn't need a check. If the Offensive team gets the momentum (easier done than you think actually), rain probably doesn't have any checks to it, apart from MAYBE getting Rain back up again. Oh, and something like Venusaur can take down at least one Rain sweeper, since it can take any unboosted attack and OHKO back with Leaf Storm or Sludge Bomb or just put you to sleep if it doesn't like you.
I don't know yet how to answer the argument that preparing for Rain weakens you against the metagame... I think most Pokemon can help out against Rain.
Here's how the top 15 Pokemon in UU can fare against Rain: Descriptions
Qwilfish's ability to lure in those threats and Explode on them is frightening. I realize this can also be avoided through some pretty ridiculous prediction, but is it really worth bringing in (on consensus) the single most effective counter to rain to sponge the Explosion, and then leave it open to the next attack? Add to that the Qwilfish can end up attacking also or even SDing. Depending on what Qwilfish goes BOOM on, you can decide what the team will be weak to: Kabutops, Ludicolo, or Omastar/Gorebyss. Generally I've found Qwil opens holes best for both Tops and SD Ludi (and SD Gatr if your rain happens to go out! And if its still up it's only a help...)
Someone said that if rain is off rain poses no threat. It poses, maybe, less of a threat. I've swept plenty of teams with Kabutops... but not on a rain team. Qwilfish still has 85 speed and Explosion. Ludicolo's defenses are quite decent for an offensive spread. Omastar has decent defensive typing. Along with that, the number of setters possible is pretty high. Having missy problems? Use Drapion to set up the storm.
And I meant to write a paragraph on how I really do believe rain's metagame shifts it creates actually move the meta backwards, but I have to go to school for the first day today... I'll get to it later I'm sure.
1. Send in Ambipom (or any fast Pokemon, for that matter) and Taunt the Rain Dancer.
2. Send in someone with a Substitute + Grass / Electric attacks, so that after the Rain Dancer dances you get a free shot at the rain sweeper coming in or at least the chance to stall out his rain turns with more Substitutes.
3. Send in a Sunnybeamer and replace the rain with sun once the Rain Dancer sets up (e.g. Uxie puts up Rain, then on his U-turn you use Sunny Day).
4. Send in a bulky supporter and spam Thunder Wave so his rain sweeper gets paralyzed at once.
1) You're not getting the jump on Rain teams momentum wise unless your using some shit like scarf sleep.
2) Well, of course if your gonna sit there spamming surf at chesto rest kingdra you're gonna get knocked the fuck out. But competent players can recover from the odd misplay here or there. This is nigh on impossible in rain (please dont cite that warstory, flare was disadvantaged from the outset.)
My team which I have used this team for a very long time with minor tweaks... since the Yanmega period... I think:
Ambipom (Fake Out, Rain Dance, Taunt, U-Turn)
Uxie (Stealth Rock, Rain Dance, Heal Bell, Zen Headbutt)
Kabutops
Qwilfish
SD Ludicolo
LO Gorebyss
out of 10 matches: I won 8, should have been 7 (beat flashbolt on hax). I would say only rigor's was prepared for Rain but flashbolt, Beelay and Johto-Master had somewhat prepared for Rain too.
vs Flashbolt. (Mesprit, Sunnybeam Arcanine, Scarf Leafeon, Drapion, Gastrodon, Weezing) Waves of Rain: 2
We faced once before 10 minutes earlier. I won on a Waterfall flinch earlier and winning a speed tie on Arcanine vs Uxie. Didn't decide to start saving logs so that game is not here. This game, I won on a Waterfall flinch AGAIN and ANOTHER speed tie win between my Uxie and Arcanine. In hindsight, Gorebyss was the largest threat to his more physically inclined team, and he took it out successfully by sacrificing Mesprit and Drapion, such that Kabutops and Ludicolo could be handled by Weezing and Leafeon. I blew Qwilfish up hoping to catch the Scarf Leafeon or Weezing, but Gastrodon took it.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
flashbolt sent out Mesprit (lvl 100 Mesprit).
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Mesprit used Zen Headbutt.
m ambipo lost 36% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
It's super effective!
Mesprit lost 21% of its health.
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Mesprit used Thunder Wave.
h qwilfis is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
The rain continues to fall.
Mesprit's leftovers restored its health a little!
Mesprit restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Mesprit used Zen Headbutt.
s gorebys lost 37% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Mesprit's leftovers restored its health a little!
Mesprit restored 6% of its health.
---
s gorebys used Surf.
Mesprit lost 91% of its health.
flashbolt's Mesprit fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
flashbolt switched in Drapion (lvl 100 Drapion ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
Drapion lost 76% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
Drapion used Crunch.
s gorebys lost 33% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Drapion's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drapion restored 6% of its health.
---
s gorebys used Surf.
Drapion lost 30% of its health.
flashbolt's Drapion fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
flashbolt switched in Gastrodon (lvl 100 Gastrodon ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Gastrodon used Toxic.
e uxi was badly poisoned!
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi is hurt by poison!
e uxi lost 6% of its health.
---
flashbolt switched in Arcanine (lvl 100 Arcanine ?).
Arcanine's Intimidate cut e uxi's attack!
e uxi used Heal Bell.
The rain stopped.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Arcanine used Fire Blast.
m ambipo lost 64% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
flashbolt switched in Gastrodon (lvl 100 Gastrodon ?).
h qwilfis used Explosion.
Gastrodon lost 100% of its health.
flashbolt's Gastrodon fainted.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
flashbolt switched in Weezing (lvl 100 Weezing ?).
flashbolt switched in Arcanine (lvl 100 Arcanine ?).
Arcanine's Intimidate cut e uxi's attack!
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Arcanine used Fire Blast.
e uxi lost 22% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
Arcanine lost 18% of its health.
Arcanine used Sunny Day.
The rain stopped.
The sun began to shine!
The sun continues to shine.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
The sun faded.
Rain began to fall!
Arcanine used Fire Blast.
e uxi lost 19% of its health.
e uxi was burned!
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi was hurt by its burn!
e uxi lost 12% of its health.
---
Arcanine used Sunny Day.
The rain stopped.
The sun began to shine!
e uxi used Rain Dance.
The sun faded.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi was hurt by its burn!
e uxi lost 12% of its health.
---
Arcanine used Sunny Day.
The rain stopped.
The sun began to shine!
e uxi used Rain Dance.
The sun faded.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi was hurt by its burn!
e uxi lost 12% of its health.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Arcanine used Sunny Day.
The rain stopped.
The sun began to shine!
The sun continues to shine.
e uxi was hurt by its burn!
e uxi lost 12% of its health.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
The sun faded.
Rain began to fall!
Arcanine used Fire Blast.
e uxi lost 3% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
There was a speed tie. If Arcanine had gone first, Sun would have been set up and I would have lost.
---
s kabutop used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Arcanine lost 82% of its health.
flashbolt's Arcanine fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
flashbolt switched in Leafeon (lvl 100 Leafeon ?).
Pointed stones dug into Leafeon.
Leafeon lost 12% of its health.
s kabutop used Stone Edge.
Leafeon lost 71% of its health.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
Leafeon used Leaf Blade.
It's super effective!
s kabutop lost 80% of its health.
nitro blast's s kabutop fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
flashbolt switched in Weezing (lvl 100 Weezing ?).
Pointed stones dug into Weezing.
Weezing lost 12% of its health.
o ludicol used Swords Dance.
o ludicol's attack was sharply raised.
The rain continues to fall.
Weezing's leftovers restored its health a little!
Weezing restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Weezing lost 78% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
Weezing flinched!
The rain continues to fall.
Weezing's leftovers restored its health a little!
Weezing restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Weezing lost 22% of its health.
flashbolt's Weezing fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
flashbolt switched in Leafeon (lvl 100 Leafeon ?).
Pointed stones dug into Leafeon.
Leafeon lost 12% of its health.
o ludicol used Waterfall.
It's not very effective...
Leafeon lost 4% of its health.
flashbolt's Leafeon fainted.
nitro blast wins!
vs Eggy Bread. (Ambipom, Regirock, Mismagius, Absol, Arcanine, Uxie) Waves of Rain: 2
Lesson learnt: Never leave Ambipom in against a Rain team, you're asking for a Kabutops Swords Dance even if you Low Kick it. This team couldn't survive the first Rain wave. He should have sent out Uxie instead of Pursuiting Ambipom, it would have paralyzed Kabutops at least. This team was not prepared for Rain.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
eggy bread sent out Ambipom (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
noob007 has entered the room.
eggy bread: lol
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Ambipom lost 31% of its health.
Ambipom flinched!
---
Ambipom used Fake Out.
But it failed!
m ambipo used Taunt.
Ambipom fell for the taunt!
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Ambipom used Pursuit.
m ambipo lost 32% of its health.
Ambipom lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
eggy bread: hurrrrrrrr
Ambipom used Pursuit.
m ambipo lost 42% of its health.
Ambipom lost 10% of its health.
m ambipo used U-turn.
Ambipom lost 25% of its health.
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Ambipom's taunt wore off!
The rain continues to fall.
---
s kabutop used Swords Dance.
s kabutop's attack was sharply raised.
Ambipom used U-turn.
s kabutop lost 33% of its health.
eggy bread switched in Regirock (lvl 100 Regirock).
Ambipom lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
s kabutop used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Regirock lost 100% of its health.
eggy bread's Regirock fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
eggy bread switched in Absol (lvl 100 Absol ?).
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
Absol lost 100% of its health.
eggy bread's Absol fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
eggy bread switched in Arcanine (lvl 100 Arcanine ?).
Arcanine's Intimidate cut s kabutop's attack!
Arcanine used Extremespeed.
It's not very effective...
s kabutop lost 23% of its health.
s kabutop used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Arcanine lost 100% of its health.
eggy bread's Arcanine fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
eggy bread switched in Mismagius (lvl 100 Mismagius ?).
s kabutop used Waterfall.
Mismagius lost 100% of its health.
eggy bread's Mismagius fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
eggy bread switched in Ambipom (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
Ambipom lost 13% of its health.
eggy bread's Ambipom fainted.
s kabutop lost 4% of its health.
nitro blast's s kabutop fainted.
The rain stopped.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
eggy bread switched in Uxie (lvl 100 Uxie).
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Uxie used Zen Headbutt.
m ambipo lost 26% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
Uxie lost 58% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
Uxie used Zen Headbutt.
s gorebys lost 27% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Uxie's leftovers restored its health a little!
Uxie restored 6% of its health.
---
s gorebys used Surf.
Uxie lost 48% of its health.
eggy bread's Uxie fainted.
nitro blast wins!
eggy bread has left the room.
vs smwat0601 (Dual Screen Alakazam, Whiscash, Altaria, Chansey, Blaziken, Dual Screen Uxie) Waves of Rain: 2
I outstalled the Screens, Taunted the threat of DD Whiscash and set up the Rain while screens were down. Unluckily for him, he brought a Chansey into an expected Rain switch-in which turned out to be Qwilfish, and I Swords Danced on the expected switch but he protected so that's just as good. Uxie's sacrifice to set up Reflect wasn't good enough as Alakazam died anyway and I exploded on Whiscash. Taking on Altaria and Blaziken was then plain sailing. My opponenet was not prepared for rain and failed to keep Screens up.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
smwat0601 sent out Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Alakazam used Reflect.
A barrier was formed!
---
Alakazam used Light Screen.
A barrier was formed!
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Alakazam used Encore.
But it failed!
---
Alakazam used Psychic.
m ambipo lost 54% of its health.
m ambipo used Taunt.
Alakazam fell for the taunt!
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Alakazam used Psychic.
It's not very effective...
e uxi lost 14% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
smwat0601 switched in Whiscash (lvl 100 Whiscash ?).
Pointed stones dug into Whiscash.
Whiscash lost 6% of its health.
Whiscash's leftovers restored its health a little!
Whiscash restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Whiscash fell for the taunt!
Whiscash used Dragon Dance.
Whiscash can't use Dragon Dance after the taunt!
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
Whiscash lost 10% of its health.
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Whiscash used Bounce.
Whiscash bounced up!
Whiscash's reflect wore off!
Whiscash's leftovers restored its health a little!
Whiscash restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Whiscash used Bounce.
e uxi lost 19% of its health.
Whiscash's light screen wore off!
Whiscash's leftovers restored its health a little!
Whiscash restored 4% of its health.
---
smwat0601 switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?).
Pointed stones dug into Blaziken.
Blaziken lost 12% of its health.
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
smwat0601 switched in Chansey (lvl 100 Chansey ?).
Pointed stones dug into Chansey.
Chansey lost 12% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Chansey's leftovers restored its health a little!
Chansey restored 6% of its health.
---
Chansey used Protect.
Chansey protected itself!
h qwilfis used Swords Dance.
h qwilfis's attack was sharply raised.
The rain continues to fall.
Chansey's leftovers restored its health a little!
Chansey restored 6% of its health.
---
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
Chansey lost 100% of its health.
smwat0601's Chansey fainted.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
smwat0601 switched in Uxie (lvl 100 Uxie).
Pointed stones dug into Uxie.
Uxie lost 12% of its health.
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
Uxie lost 84% of its health.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
Uxie used Reflect.
A barrier was formed!
The rain continues to fall.
---
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
Uxie lost 3% of its health.
smwat0601's Uxie fainted.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
smwat0601 switched in Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
Pointed stones dug into Alakazam.
Alakazam lost 12% of its health.
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
Alakazam lost 88% of its health.
smwat0601's Alakazam fainted.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
smwat0601 switched in Whiscash (lvl 100 Whiscash ?).
Pointed stones dug into Whiscash.
Whiscash lost 6% of its health.
h qwilfis used Explosion.
Whiscash lost 94% of its health.
smwat0601's Whiscash fainted.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
The rain stopped.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
smwat0601 switched in Altaria (lvl 100 Altaria ?).
Pointed stones dug into Altaria.
Altaria lost 25% of its health.
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Altaria lost 13% of its health.
Altaria flinched!
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Altaria fell for the taunt!
Altaria used Dragon Claw.
m ambipo lost 46% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
Altaria lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Altaria used Dragon Claw.
e uxi lost 31% of its health.
Altaria lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Altaria used Dragon Claw.
s gorebys lost 49% of its health.
Altaria lost 10% of its health.
Altaria's reflect wore off!
Altaria's taunt wore off!
The rain continues to fall.
---
s gorebys used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Altaria lost 32% of its health.
smwat0601's Altaria fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
smwat0601 switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?).
Pointed stones dug into Blaziken.
Blaziken lost 12% of its health.
s gorebys used Surf.
It's super effective!
Blaziken lost 75% of its health.
smwat0601's Blaziken fainted.
nitro blast wins!
smwat0601: gg
nitro blast: gg
smwat0601 has left the room.
vs rigor (TR Slowbro, TR Exeggutor, TR P2, Ludicolo, Qwilfish, Unknown Pokemon) Waves of Rain: 3
My opponent was running a weird TR + RD team but TR was all he needed. The bulk of Exeggutor meant that he was able to set up TR against Ludicolo. I could not stop TR from going up again from Slowbro as Ambipom was at 1% and couldn't switch in to Taunt Slowbro, which then wrecked my Rain team, due to my Water resist Ludicolo falling to Eggy. Despite Kabutops finishing off Slowbro, Ludicolo and Qwilfish once TR ran out, it would never be able to OHKO P2 out of the Rain.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
rigor sent out Slowbro (lvl 100 Slowbro ?).
m ambipo used Taunt.
Slowbro fell for the taunt!
Slowbro used Trick Room.
Slowbro can't use Trick Room after the taunt!
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Slowbro used Surf.
m ambipo lost 99% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
It's super effective!
Slowbro lost 25% of its health.
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
o ludicol lost 18% of its health.
Slowbro's taunt wore off!
The rain continues to fall.
---
rigor switched in Exeggutor (lvl 100 Exeggutor ?).
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 21% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
o ludicol used Ice Punch.
It's super effective!
Exeggutor lost 59% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
Exeggutor used Trick Room.
Exeggutor twisted the dimensions!
The rain continues to fall.
---
Exeggutor used Psychic.
o ludicol lost 63% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
Exeggutor lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
rigor switched in Slowbro (lvl 100 Slowbro ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Slowbro lost 15% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
h qwilfis lost 67% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Slowbro used Surf.
e uxi lost 55% of its health.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
The rain stopped.
---
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Slowbro used Slack Off.
Slowbro restored 41% of its health.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Slowbro used Trick Room.
Slowbro twisted the dimensions!
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
h qwilfis lost 33% of its health.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
s gorebys lost 62% of its health.
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Slowbro lost 62% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
s gorebys lost 29% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
m ambipo lost 1% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
s kabutop used Stone Edge.
Slowbro lost 38% of its health.
rigor's Slowbro fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
rigor switched in Ludicolo (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Pointed stones dug into Ludicolo.
Ludicolo lost 12% of its health.
s kabutop used Stone Edge.
Ludicolo lost 88% of its health.
rigor's Ludicolo fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
rigor switched in Qwilfish (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Pointed stones dug into Qwilfish.
Qwilfish lost 12% of its health.
nitro blast: wtf?
nitro blast: TR+Rain? Wow.
rigor: yey :)
s kabutop used Stone Edge.
Qwilfish lost 88% of its health.
rigor's Qwilfish fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
rigor switched in Porygon2 (lvl 100 Porygon2).
Porygon2 traced s kabutop's Swift Swim!
Pointed stones dug into Porygon2.
Porygon2 lost 12% of its health.
nitro blast: are you serious?
nitro blast: really
rigor: y
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Porygon2 used Trick Room.
Porygon2 twisted the dimensions!
---
Porygon2 used Tri Attack.
e uxi lost 38% of its health.
Porygon2 lost 10% of its health.
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
---
Porygon2 used Tri Attack.
e uxi lost 8% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
Porygon2 lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
nitro blast: why not download
Porygon2 used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
s kabutop lost 70% of its health.
nitro blast's s kabutop fainted.
rigor wins!
rigor: no :)
vs Johto-Master (Persian, Scarfdoom, Venusaur, Lanturn, P2, Unknown) Waves of Rain: 2
Scarfdoom surprised my Ambipom, leaving me with only Uxie as my Rain setup. My Kabutops Swords Danced against Houndoom but the worst Pokemon came out: Venusaur.Facing a +4 Venusaur I sacrificed Kabutops and Qwilfish to explode on it, though on hindsight I should have tried for a KO with Gorebyss instead with Qwilfish. Persian helped to eliminate Ludicolo with Fake Out and Gorebyss died to P2.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Johto-Master sent out Persian (lvl 100 Persian ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Persian lost 41% of its health.
Persian flinched!
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Persian fell for the taunt!
Persian used Return.
m ambipo lost 58% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Persian used Return.
It's not very effective...
s kabutop lost 23% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Persian used U-turn.
m ambipo lost 23% of its health.
Johto-Master switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?).
---
Houndoom used Flamethrower.
m ambipo lost 19% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Johto-Master switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
s kabutop used Swords Dance.
s kabutop's attack was sharply raised.
---
Venusaur used Sleep Powder.
s kabutop fell asleep!
s kabutop is fast asleep!
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Venusaur used Swords Dance.
Venusaur's attack was sharply raised.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Venusaur used Swords Dance.
Venusaur's attack was sharply raised.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Venusaur used Power Whip.
It's super effective!
s kabutop lost 77% of its health.
nitro blast's s kabutop fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
nitro blast: look at qwilfish's base stats
h qwilfis used Explosion.
Venusaur lost 100% of its health.
Johto-Master's Venusaur fainted.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Johto-Master: why
nitro blast: because you would have killed it
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Johto-Master switched in Lanturn (lvl 100 Lanturn ?).
Johto-Master: cool?
nitro blast: cool
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Lanturn used Substitute.
Lanturn lost 25% of its health.
Lanturn made a substitute!
The rain continues to fall.
Lanturn's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lanturn restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Lanturn!
Lanturn's substitute faded!
Lanturn used Charge Beam.
o ludicol lost 24% of its health.
Lanturn's special attack was raised.
The rain continues to fall.
Lanturn's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lanturn restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Lanturn lost 88% of its health.
Johto-Master's Lanturn fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Johto-Master switched in Persian (lvl 100 Persian ?).
Persian used Fake Out.
o ludicol lost 41% of its health.
o ludicol flinched!
The rain continues to fall.
---
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Persian lost 59% of its health.
Johto-Master's Persian fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
Johto-Master switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?).
Houndoom used Fire Blast.
o ludicol lost 16% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Johto-Master switched in Porygon2 (lvl 100 Porygon2).
Porygon2 traced e uxi's Levitate!
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
---
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Porygon2 used Toxic.
e uxi was badly poisoned!
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi is hurt by poison!
e uxi lost 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Porygon2 used Tri Attack.
s gorebys lost 55% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
s gorebys used Surf.
Porygon2 lost 95% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
Porygon2 used Tri Attack.
s gorebys lost 35% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
Porygon2's leftovers restored its health a little!
Porygon2 restored 6% of its health.
---
Titi06 has entered the room.
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Titi06 has left the room.
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
Porygon2 lost 11% of its health.
Johto-Master's Porygon2 fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi is hurt by poison!
e uxi lost 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast: gg
Johto-Master switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?).
Pointed stones dug into Houndoom.
Houndoom lost 25% of its health.
Houndoom used Dark Pulse.
It's super effective!
e uxi lost 61% of its health.
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
It doesn't affect Houndoom...
The rain continues to fall.
e uxi is hurt by poison!
e uxi lost 12% of its health.
---
Houndoom used Dark Pulse.
It's super effective!
e uxi lost 14% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
Johto-Master wins!
Johto-Master: gg
Johto-Master has left the room.
vs robbanje (Scyther, Mismagius, Leafeon, Houndoom, Ursaring, Kabutops) Waves of Rain: 2
Despite having SubMissy robbanje gets his Pokemon Taunted chooses to sacrifice it to Gorebyss. He also gives up Leafeon to Gorebyss due to the lack of Pokemon on his team able to take on it. Kabutops brushes Scyther aside despite taking a Brick Break and he brings out his own Kabutops, which beats mine. I make a mistake by double switching to Uxie from Ludicolo giving him a Swords Dance, therefore I have to LO stall his Kabutops to death, sacrificing Uxie and Ludicolo. Qwilfish easily finishes off Ursaring and Houndoom.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
robbanje sent out Scyther (lvl 100 Scyther ?).
robbanje switched in Mismagius (lvl 100 Mismagius ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
It doesn't affect Mismagius...
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Mismagius fell for the taunt!
Mismagius used Substitute.
Mismagius can't use Substitute after the taunt!
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Mismagius used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
m ambipo lost 79% of its health.
Mismagius lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Mismagius lost 17% of its health.
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Mismagius used Hidden Power.
s gorebys lost 44% of its health.
Mismagius lost 10% of its health.
Mismagius's taunt wore off!
The rain continues to fall.
---
s gorebys used Surf.
Mismagius lost 63% of its health.
robbanje's Mismagius fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
robbanje switched in Leafeon (lvl 100 Leafeon ?).
Leafeon used Quick Attack.
s gorebys lost 21% of its health.
Leafeon lost 10% of its health.
s gorebys used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Leafeon lost 90% of its health.
robbanje's Leafeon fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
robbanje switched in Scyther (lvl 100 Scyther ?).
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Scyther used Quick Attack.
It's not very effective...
s kabutop lost 11% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
s kabutop used Stone Edge.
It's super effective!
Scyther lost 100% of its health.
Scyther hung on using its Focus Sash!
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
Scyther used Brick Break.
It's super effective!
s kabutop lost 57% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
Scyther lost 0% of its health.
robbanje's Scyther fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
robbanje switched in Kabutops (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Kabutops used Aqua Jet.
s kabutop lost 11% of its health.
nitro blast's s kabutop fainted.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Kabutops used Stone Edge.
Kabutops's attack missed!
---
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Kabutops used Swords Dance.
Kabutops's attack was sharply raised.
---
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
Kabutops lost 26% of its health.
Kabutops flinched!
---
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
e uxi's attack missed!
Kabutops used Aqua Tail.
e uxi lost 98% of its health.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
---
Kabutops used Aqua Jet.
e uxi lost 2% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
It's not very effective...
Kabutops lost 11% of its health.
Kabutops flinched!
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Kabutops used Aqua Jet.
It's not very effective...
o ludicol lost 19% of its health.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Kabutops used Stone Edge.
s gorebys lost 16% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Kabutops used Stone Edge.
o ludicol lost 81% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
Kabutops lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
It's not very effective...
Kabutops lost 4% of its health.
robbanje's Kabutops fainted.
---
robbanje switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?).
Pointed stones dug into Houndoom.
Houndoom lost 25% of its health.
Houndoom used Sucker Punch.
But it failed!
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Houndoom fell for the taunt!
Houndoom used Dark Pulse.
m ambipo lost 21% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
Houndoom lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Houndoom used Sucker Punch.
h qwilfis lost 61% of its health.
Houndoom lost 10% of its health.
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Houndoom lost 55% of its health.
robbanje's Houndoom fainted.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
robbanje switched in Ursaring (lvl 100 Ursaring ?).
Pointed stones dug into Ursaring.
Ursaring lost 12% of its health.
nitro blast: gg
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
Ursaring lost 88% of its health.
robbanje's Ursaring fainted.
nitro blast wins!
robbanje has left the room.
Many quick kills in this match. Qwilfish eats Rhyperior. He baits me into exploding Qwil on Rotom with Azumarill. Ludicolo crushes Rotom but Cloyster explodes on it. Arcanine and Azumarill are no match for Gorebyss but Rain ends and Venusaur kills Gorebyss and is left facing my Uxie and Kabutops. At this point, the game is over. Uxie outspeeds and RDs, and I intend to let it die while offensive Venusaur LOs itself into Kabutops' Stone Edge KO range. Uxie wakes up and kills Venusaur, winning the match.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
BEAR GRYLLS_ sent out Cloyster (lvl 100 Cloyster ?).
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
It's not very effective...
Rhyperior lost 6% of its health.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Rhyperior fell for the taunt!
Rhyperior used Earthquake.
m ambipo lost 75% of its health.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 0% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Rhyperior used Rock Blast.
m ambipo lost 21% of its health.
m ambipo lost 3% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
Hit 2 time(s)!
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
h qwilfis used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Rhyperior lost 100% of its health.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Rhyperior fainted.
h qwilfis lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Azumarill (lvl 100 Azumarill ?).
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Rotom (lvl 100 Rotom).
h qwilfis used Explosion.
It doesn't affect Rotom...
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Rotom lost 100% of its health.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Rotom fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Cloyster (lvl 100 Cloyster ?).
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's super effective!
Cloyster lost 56% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
Cloyster used Explosion.
o ludicol lost 81% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Cloyster fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Arcanine (lvl 100 Arcanine ?).
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Azumarill (lvl 100 Azumarill ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
It's not very effective...
Azumarill lost 45% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Azumarill's leftovers restored its health a little!
Azumarill restored 6% of its health.
---
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Azumarill lost 61% of its health.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Azumarill fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Arcanine (lvl 100 Arcanine ?).
Arcanine used Extremespeed.
s gorebys lost 50% of its health.
Arcanine lost 10% of its health.
s gorebys used Surf.
It's super effective!
Arcanine lost 90% of its health.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Arcanine fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
BEAR GRYLLS_ switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
Venusaur used Sludge Bomb.
s gorebys lost 21% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
Venusaur lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Venusaur used Sleep Powder.
e uxi fell asleep!
The rain continues to fall.
---
e uxi is fast asleep!
Venusaur used Leaf Storm.
Venusaur's attack missed!
The rain continues to fall.
---
e uxi woke up!
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
It's super effective!
Venusaur lost 61% of its health.
Venusaur used Sludge Bomb.
A critical hit!
e uxi lost 82% of its health.
Venusaur lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast: gg
BEAR GRYLLS_: wow
BEAR GRYLLS_: 1 turn sleep
nitro blast: even if you killed uxie
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
It's super effective!
Venusaur lost 19% of its health.
BEAR GRYLLS_'s Venusaur fainted.
nitro blast wins!
BEAR GRYLLS_: bg
BEAR GRYLLS_ has left the room.
nitro blast: kabutops kills offensive venusuar
vs Beelay (Hariyama, Registeel, Absol, Weezing, Blaziken, Milotic) Waves of Rain: 3
In hindsight, Regilotic and Weezing seems like a bad matchup. What's more, there's an bulky Hariyama and an Absol. Disaster. Registeel is weakened by Qwil's Explosion and Gorebyss finishes it off. He stalls with Milotic and the first wave of Rain ends with him losing Hariyama. As I set rain up, I'm lucky his Absol did not Swords Dance up. The second wave of Rain leads to Milotic stalling and a dead Weezing. Blaziken has Ludicolo for dinner right after that though. I Taunt Milotic so Gorebyss can kill it, Absol Sucker Punches Gorebyss but LO damage ensures Kabutops kills it and the chicken with Aqua Jet. Perhaps he shouldn't have sacrificed Registeel and Weezing but continue to stall with Milotic. He could have Swords Danced up with Absol and gone into a prediction war against my Kabutops.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Beelay sent out Hariyama (lvl 100 Hariyama ?).
Beelay switched in Registeel (lvl 100 Registeel).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
It's not very effective...
Registeel lost 7% of its health.
Registeel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Registeel restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Registeel fell for the taunt!
Registeel used Seismic Toss.
m ambipo lost 28% of its health.
Registeel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Registeel restored 1% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Registeel used Seismic Toss.
m ambipo lost 28% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Registeel lost 5% of its health.
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Registeel used Seismic Toss.
h qwilfis lost 37% of its health.
Registeel's taunt wore off!
The rain continues to fall.
Registeel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Registeel restored 5% of its health.
---
h qwilfis used Explosion.
It's not very effective...
Registeel lost 68% of its health.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
Registeel used Thunder Wave.
But there was no target!
The rain continues to fall.
Registeel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Registeel restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
Registeel lost 38% of its health.
Beelay's Registeel fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Beelay switched in Milotic (lvl 100 Milotic ?).
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Milotic used Recover.
The rain continues to fall.
---
o ludicol used Swords Dance.
o ludicol's attack was sharply raised.
Milotic used Recover.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Beelay switched in Hariyama (lvl 100 Hariyama ?).
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
Hariyama lost 68% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Hariyama lost 32% of its health.
Beelay's Hariyama fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
Beelay switched in Weezing (lvl 100 Weezing ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Weezing used Sludge Bomb.
e uxi lost 21% of its health.
---
Beelay switched in Absol (lvl 100 Absol ?).
Absol is exerting its pressure!
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Absol used Night Slash.
It's super effective!
e uxi lost 78% of its health.
Absol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Absol used Sucker Punch.
But it failed!
e uxi used Rain Dance.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Absol used Sucker Punch.
It's super effective!
e uxi lost 1% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
Absol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
Beelay switched in Milotic (lvl 100 Milotic ?).
Pointed stones dug into Milotic.
Milotic lost 12% of its health.
s gorebys used Surf.
It's not very effective...
Milotic lost 35% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Milotic's leftovers restored its health a little!
Milotic restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Milotic used Recover.
Milotic restored 41% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
o ludicol used Swords Dance.
o ludicol's attack was sharply raised.
Milotic used Ice Beam.
o ludicol lost 26% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Beelay switched in Weezing (lvl 100 Weezing ?).
Pointed stones dug into Weezing.
Weezing lost 12% of its health.
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's not very effective...
Weezing lost 33% of its health.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Weezing's leftovers restored its health a little!
Weezing restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Waterfall.
Weezing lost 61% of its health.
Beelay's Weezing fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
The rain stopped.
---
Beelay switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?).
Pointed stones dug into Blaziken.
Blaziken lost 12% of its health.
Blaziken used Superpower.
o ludicol lost 35% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
Blaziken's attack was lowered.
Blaziken's defence was lowered.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Beelay switched in Milotic (lvl 100 Milotic ?).
Pointed stones dug into Milotic.
Milotic lost 12% of its health.
m ambipo used Fake Out.
A critical hit!
Milotic lost 28% of its health.
Milotic's leftovers restored its health a little!
Milotic restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Milotic fell for the taunt!
Milotic used Recover.
Milotic can't use Recover after the taunt!
Milotic's leftovers restored its health a little!
Milotic restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Milotic used Surf.
m ambipo lost 44% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
Milotic's leftovers restored its health a little!
Milotic restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Milotic lost 48% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
Milotic used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
s gorebys lost 57% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Milotic's leftovers restored its health a little!
Milotic restored 6% of its health.
---
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Milotic lost 36% of its health.
Beelay's Milotic fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Beelay switched in Absol (lvl 100 Absol ?).
Absol is exerting its pressure!
Pointed stones dug into Absol.
Absol lost 12% of its health.
Absol used Sucker Punch.
s gorebys lost 3% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
Absol lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
Absol lost 58% of its health.
Beelay's Absol fainted.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Beelay switched in Blaziken (lvl 100 Blaziken ?).
Pointed stones dug into Blaziken.
Blaziken lost 12% of its health.
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
It's super effective!
Blaziken lost 75% of its health.
Beelay's Blaziken fainted.
nitro blast wins!
Beelay has left the room.
nitro blast: gg
vs AIDS O.o (Jumpluff, Technitop, Houndoom, Pikachu, Quagsire, Venusaur) Waves of Rain: 2
He predicts (luckily imo) with Venusaur, getting a free kill on Qwilfish as Rain starts. Offensive Venusaur is eaten by Gorebyss with some damage, though. He has Technitop, whose Fake Out is a pain for everyone except Kabutops, but Tops hates Mach Punch. A crit kills his Houndoom, Ludicolo is put to sleep by Jumpluff... He has a Water Absorber in Quagsire (a good counter to Tops) but carelessly lets it die to Gorebyss. The game is over when Pikachu is OHKOed by 0 Attack Uxie's Zen Headbutt with Stealth Rock. His Water Absorber had nothing to do all match, though, as I did not ever use a Water attack in this match. Gorebyss was the only Rain sweeper that participated in this match, killing the threats of Venusaur and Quagsire. He could have tried to stall out the Rain by bringing out Houndoom on Gorebyss' Ice Beam, then Quagsire on the Surf, then Venusaur on the HP Grass...
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
AIDS O.o sent out Jumpluff (lvl 100 Jumpluff ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Jumpluff lost 24% of its health.
Jumpluff flinched!
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Jumpluff fell for the taunt!
Jumpluff used Encore.
Jumpluff can't use Encore after the taunt!
---
AIDS O.o switched in Venusaur (lvl 100 Venusaur ?).
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Venusaur fell for the taunt!
Venusaur used Swords Dance.
Venusaur can't use Swords Dance after the taunt!
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
Venusaur lost 20% of its health.
nitro blast switched in h qwilfis (lvl 100 Qwilfish ?).
Venusaur used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
h qwilfis lost 100% of its health.
nitro blast's h qwilfis fainted.
Venusaur lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o: FUUUUU
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
nitro blast: =(
s gorebys used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Venusaur lost 70% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Venusaur fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o switched in Hitmontop (lvl 100 Hitmontop ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Hitmontop used Fake Out.
A critical hit!
e uxi lost 28% of its health.
Hitmontop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o switched in Houndoom (lvl 100 Houndoom ?).
e uxi used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast: blue murer
nitro blast: murder
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
Houndoom used Nasty Plot.
Houndoom's special attack was sharply raised.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o: kindq
AIDS O.o: a
m ambipo used Fake Out.
A critical hit!
Houndoom lost 84% of its health.
Houndoom flinched!
The rain stopped.
---
nitro blast: sorry
AIDS O.o: FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
m ambipo used U-turn.
Houndoom lost 16% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Houndoom fainted.
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
---
AIDS O.o switched in Jumpluff (lvl 100 Jumpluff ?).
Pointed stones dug into Jumpluff.
Jumpluff lost 25% of its health.
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Jumpluff used Sleep Powder.
o ludicol fell asleep!
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
AIDS O.o switched in Quagsire (lvl 100 Quagsire ?).
Pointed stones dug into Quagsire.
Quagsire lost 6% of its health.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Quagsire lost 21% of its health.
Quagsire flinched!
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Quagsire used Curse.
Quagsire's speed was lowered.
Quagsire's attack was raised.
Quagsire's defence was raised.
The rain continues to fall.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Quagsire fell for the taunt!
Quagsire used Earthquake.
m ambipo lost 66% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
But it failed!
Quagsire used Earthquake.
m ambipo lost 34% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
Quagsire's leftovers restored its health a little!
Quagsire restored 3% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Quagsire lost 100% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Quagsire fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o switched in Hitmontop (lvl 100 Hitmontop ?).
Pointed stones dug into Hitmontop.
Hitmontop lost 6% of its health.
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Hitmontop used Fake Out.
e uxi lost 13% of its health.
Hitmontop lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
AIDS O.o switched in Pikachu (lvl 100 Pikachu ?).
Pointed stones dug into Pikachu.
Pikachu lost 12% of its health.
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
Pikachu lost 88% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Pikachu fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast: LOL
AIDS O.o: :C
nitro blast: that is pathetic
AIDS O.o: darnit xD
nitro blast: 0 attack EVs
nitro blast: zero
AIDS O.o: You KILLED pikachu XD
AIDS O.o switched in Hitmontop (lvl 100 Hitmontop ?).
Pointed stones dug into Hitmontop.
Hitmontop lost 6% of its health.
Hitmontop used Fake Out.
e uxi lost 13% of its health.
Hitmontop lost 10% of its health.
e uxi flinched!
The rain continues to fall.
---
Hitmontop used Mach Punch.
It's not very effective...
e uxi lost 11% of its health.
Hitmontop lost 10% of its health.
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
It's super effective!
Hitmontop lost 48% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Hitmontop fainted.
The rain stopped.
---
AIDS O.o switched in Jumpluff (lvl 100 Jumpluff ?).
Pointed stones dug into Jumpluff.
Jumpluff lost 25% of its health.
Jumpluff used Sleep Powder.
But it failed!
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
Jumpluff lost 26% of its health.
AIDS O.o's Jumpluff fainted.
nitro blast wins!
nitro blast: bye
AIDS O.o has left the room.
vs BeeTooYulou (Taunt Alakazam, CM Slowbro, Swellow, Kangaskhan, Donphan and Magmortar) Waves of Rain: 2
He has a Taunt Alakazam which puts me at a severe disadvantage if I cannot get Rain up but I force him out with the threat of Kabutops' priority while Slowbro comes in. Uxie sets up Rain and Gorebyss dismantles his team. The poor preparation for Gorebyss dooms his team.
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
nitro blast sent out m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
BeeTooYulou sent out Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Alakazam used Focus Blast.
It's not very effective...
e uxi lost 16% of its health.
---
Alakazam used Taunt.
e uxi fell for the taunt!
e uxi used Rain Dance.
e uxi can't use Rain Dance after the taunt!
---
Alakazam used Signal Beam.
It's super effective!
e uxi lost 43% of its health.
e uxi used Zen Headbutt.
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Alakazam lost 54% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Alakazam used Signal Beam.
s kabutop lost 42% of its health.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Slowbro (lvl 100 Slowbro ?).
s kabutop used Aqua Jet.
It's not very effective...
Slowbro lost 8% of its health.
s kabutop lost 10% of its health.
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 6% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in e uxi (lvl 100 Uxie).
Slowbro used Surf.
e uxi lost 24% of its health.
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 2% of its health.
---
e uxi used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Slowbro used Surf.
e uxi lost 17% of its health.
nitro blast's e uxi fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s gorebys (lvl 100 Gorebyss ?).
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Slowbro lost 70% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
Slowbro used Calm Mind.
Slowbro's special attack was raised.
Slowbro's special defence was raised.
The rain continues to fall.
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 6% of its health.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Swellow (lvl 100 Swellow ?).
s gorebys used Hidden Power.
It's not very effective...
Swellow lost 37% of its health.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Swellow was badly poisoned!
---
s gorebys used Surf.
A critical hit!
Swellow lost 63% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Swellow fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Kangaskhan (lvl 100 Kangaskhan ?).
Kangaskhan used Sucker Punch.
s gorebys lost 47% of its health.
s gorebys used Surf.
Kangaskhan lost 100% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Kangaskhan fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
Alakazam lost 46% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Alakazam fainted.
s gorebys lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Donphan (lvl 100 Donphan ?).
s gorebys used Surf.
It's super effective!
Donphan lost 100% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Donphan fainted.
s gorebys lost 4% of its health.
nitro blast's s gorebys fainted.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
BeeTooYulou switched in Slowbro (lvl 100 Slowbro ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 26% of its health.
Slowbro flinched!
The rain stopped.
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Slowbro fell for the taunt!
Slowbro used Slack Off.
Slowbro can't use Slack Off after the taunt!
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 6% of its health.
---
m ambipo used U-turn.
It's super effective!
Slowbro lost 18% of its health.
nitro blast switched in o ludicol (lvl 100 Ludicolo ?).
Slowbro used Surf.
It's not very effective...
o ludicol lost 9% of its health.
Slowbro's leftovers restored its health a little!
Slowbro restored 6% of its health.
---
o ludicol used Seed Bomb.
It's super effective!
Slowbro lost 11% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Slowbro fainted.
o ludicol lost 10% of its health.
---
BeeTooYulou switched in Magmortar (lvl 100 Magmortar ?).
Magmortar used Thunderbolt.
A critical hit!
o ludicol lost 81% of its health.
nitro blast's o ludicol fainted.
Magmortar lost 10% of its health.
---
nitro blast switched in m ambipo (lvl 100 Ambipom ?).
m ambipo used Fake Out.
Magmortar lost 38% of its health.
Magmortar flinched!
---
m ambipo used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Magmortar used Cross Chop.
Magmortar's attack missed!
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
Magmortar fell for the taunt!
Magmortar used Cross Chop.
It's super effective!
m ambipo lost 89% of its health.
Magmortar lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
m ambipo used Taunt.
But it failed!
Magmortar used Cross Chop.
It's super effective!
m ambipo lost 11% of its health.
nitro blast's m ambipo fainted.
Magmortar lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
nitro blast switched in s kabutop (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
s kabutop used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Magmortar lost 32% of its health.
BeeTooYulou's Magmortar fainted.
nitro blast wins!
BeeTooYulou has left the room.
nitro blast: gg
basically my reply to what banedon had posted.
reiterating it.
1.)Unless you lead off with Ambipom you are switching in on RD, plus I know my lead didn't run Rain Dance to throw stuff like that off right away.
2.)Ludicolo has an easy time with this, so do all the rotom and registeels that are running on Rain Dance.
3.)See how far a sunnybeamer gets you on a regular team not aimed at countering rain. A.k.a over centralizing.
4.)Now you have to switch out or lose your paralyzer since it can, most likely, not ko back. Also there are plenty of good rain teams that carry clerics.
A wrong prediction could result in losing against ANY playstyle. Rain is no different. You might notice in my warstory I made numerous misplays.
Offense doesn't need a check. If the Offensive team gets the momentum (easier done than you think actually), rain probably doesn't have any checks to it, apart from MAYBE getting Rain back up again. Oh, and something like Venusaur can take down at least one Rain sweeper, since it can take any unboosted attack and OHKO back with Leaf Storm or Sludge Bomb or just put you to sleep if it doesn't like you.
I just want to touch on this real quick. First off how can Venusaur switch in safely and who is to say the opponent won't Swords Dance on your switch?
And when it does get in how is it going to attack or use sleep powder if it's outsped in the Rain?
252 Adamant Life Orb Kabutops +2 Waterfall
vs. 0/4 Timid Life Orb Venusaur : 297 - 351 98.7% - 116.6% in the rain.
Adamant Kabutops Waterfall
vs. Timid Venusaur : 49.2% - 58.1%
Even when you resist his stab he has a chance of koing after sr!.
Adamant Qwilfish +2 Poison Jab
vs. Timid Venusaur : 115.6% - 136.5%
And Qwilfish.
Qwilfish 2hkos
Not to mentoin omastar and gorebyss outspeed and ko. The point is these grass types can't just "switch in" and wreak havoc with stabbed grass attacks as easily as that. They are going to have to switch in on supporters and hope that the opponent isn't good enough to play around it.
I take it you've neither used it against a Rain team nor faced it using a Rain team. I've seen Rain dudes ragequit because of the amount of hell Top gives them. Ludicolo goes down to Fake Out/Mach Punch, Tops dies to Mach Punch even with his shitty Aqua Jet. Get Uxie and Mesprit in? Oh great, I'll just switch in something bulky and get a free status move of my choice.High-stakes prediction war, this mantra is completely and utterly true. You don't need to ban Rain for being a high-risk, high-reward offensive playstyle.
As my only post on the rain topic since like the Crobat metagame, this pretty much sums up my thoughts on Rain: who wins the game depends entirely on the team matchup from the start, bar any misplays. When i use my team of Mismagius/Lanturn/Scyther/Houndoom/Rhyperior/Alakzam, I think rain is broken as fuck because these pokemon are not very good against typical rain and I get sweeped pretty easily usually. However, with my other team of Mesprit/Registeel/Lanturn/Leafeon/Arcanine/Kabutops, I dont think rain is particularly threatning because all my pokemon can take a hit from a rain sweeper and retaliate, and sweep with or without Rain up. This pretty much explains the strong stances people have for/against rain, and why I don't think it'll ever be banned.
Sorry, I should have made myself more clear. I wasnt referring to the team matchups, rather, the game changing hax that left flare with an uphill fight the entire time. I would like to see the outcome had that not happened, because my whole argument is that when on the back foot, its almost impossible to stop rain from sweeping.
Sorry, I should have made myself more clear. I wasnt referring to the team matchups, rather, the game changing hax that left flare with an uphill fight the entire time. I would like to see the outcome had that not happened, because my whole argument is that when on the back foot, its almost impossible to stop rain from sweeping.
The crit on Qwilfish actually did not matter all THAT much. Yes, it started him at a disadvantage. If anything, if Rain suffers one hax and has trouble winning, I would question how good Rain Dance really is because of its inability to adapt to different changes in the game. What would he done if I didn't get the crit?? Set up Rain?? Kabutops laughs. Set up Spikes?? Tops will just spin them away. However, I've never used my warstory as conclusive evidence. That match is probably one of the most hax-free games you can get. Oh, and on the back foot, it is very difficult to stop ANY team from beating you, not just rain. Let's start you on the "back foot" against a +1/+1 Dragonite when you "mispredicted" and lost your ScarfRachi to a Magnezone.
2) Well, of course if your gonna sit there spamming surf at chesto rest kingdra you're gonna get knocked the fuck out. But competent players can recover from the odd misplay here or there. This is nigh on impossible in rain (please dont cite that warstory, flare was disadvantaged from the outset.)
Completely subjective and quite hyperbolical too. It is not "nigh impossible". There are plenty of ways to play around rain. Also, am I getting the hint that "If you misplay, you will lose"?? Of course you will. If you misplay against anyone, YOU WILL LOSE. If I misplay against panamaxis using his Stall team, I will lose. If I misplay against FlareBlitz using his Rain team, I will lose. If I misplay against Earthworm and his mono-Ground team, I will lose. This is not the fault of Rain, it is your own. Similarly, I can possibly recover from a misplay against panamaxis, I can possibly recover from a misplay against Earthworm, and I can possibly recover from a misplay against FlareBlitz and his rain team. It always depends on the severity of the misplay.
Anyway, with that out of the way, I will address the 180/180/150 offenses argument, because I haven't gone into it in detail enough. Keep your attention to the point that to get your sweeper in for those "stats", you need 2 turns, one to set up Rain, one to switch out. This is with those offenses using one type (Water) ONLY. So if you really think about it, 2 turns to reach about a base 180 Attack and 150 Speed is quite poor. Feraligatr can reach (assuming Adamant 252/252) 678 Attack and 510 Speed in two turns (Not including Life Orb). That is equivalent to base 258 Attack and 182 Speed. This is also ignoring that Feraligatr gets this stat on ALL of his physical attacks (Not just Waterfall), and it lasts forever until he is Hazed, phazed or killed.
I just want to touch on this real quick. First off how can Venusaur switch in safely and who is to say the opponent won't Swords Dance on your switch?
And when it does get in how is it going to attack or use sleep powder if it's outsped in the Rain?
Did I ever say Venusaur was a counter?? I said Venusaur can take all unboosted attacks from Rain sweepers. It's actually not very difficult, especially with how predictable Rain teams are. Just one example: Uxie uses Rain Dance. I switch in Venusaur, Uxie uses U-Turn and does jack shit. You switch in Rain Sweeper X. Venusaur WILL win against Rain Sweeper X the majority of times. Quite simple.
1. Obviously the idea is to send Ambipom in before the Rain Dance ... count the rain turns, then on turn 7 of the rain send in a Pokemon like Moltres that the opponent cannot afford to not KO. Then you send in Ambipom. Actually with Ambipom you can send it in on turn 6 as well (unless against Kabutops) since Fake Out is going to burn one more turn of rain ...
2. You might still die, but Ludicolo is a valuable rain sweeper and after it dies (which it will, since it's eating big damage from the Grass / Electric / whatever attack you're using from behind the sub, and it has no priority, and it's generally Life Orb'ed) lots of walls now become hard to break through e.g. Milotic with HP Grass.
3. Sunnybeamers aren't that bad, a Sunnybeam Moltres for example works as a great lure for Milotic and other Water-type walls, can still scare Rhyperior and similar away (who leaves Rhyperior in on Moltres, its SpD is so bad - quote by Erazor), counters weird weather teams like WhiteQueen's Blizzspam as well as rain and sand, and so on.
4. And the rain team has to "sac" something to carry Rain Dance ... and the point is? If the rain team has a cleric so be it, but using a cleric loses momentum and has definite drawbacks.
Also see YaM's post (YaM you're a saint for doing all that analysis as well as getting 30 rain logs for the other thread!).
shrang said:
The crit on Qwilfish actually did not matter all THAT much. Yes, it started him at a disadvantage. If anything, if Rain suffers one hax and has trouble winning, I would question how good Rain Dance really is because of its inability to adapt to different changes in the game. What would he done if I didn't get the crit?? Set up Rain?? Kabutops laughs. Set up Spikes?? Tops will just spin them away. However, I've never used my warstory as conclusive evidence. That match is probably one of the most hax-free games you can get. Oh, and on the back foot, it is very difficult to stop ANY team from beating you, not just rain. Let's start you on the "back foot" against a +1/+1 Dragonite when you "mispredicted" and lost your ScarfRachi to a Magnezone.
It's not the crit on Qwilfish, it's the way Flare accidentally sacrificed his Gorebyss.
PS: Uxie uses Rain Dance. You switch in Venusaur. Uxie executes a slow U-turn, taking whatever move your Venusaur uses. Rain sweeper X gets in safe and sound and ready to wreck havoc. You're basically forced to use Sleep Powder against Uxie, although after that you get a free shot at whichever rain sweeper is coming in (and they're all vulnerable either to Energy Ball or Sludge Bomb or Power Whip or Return). Personally if it were I using Uxie, I'd go to another rain dancer who can somehow get my sweeper in safely (exploding, another U-turn, etc).
PS: Uxie uses Rain Dance. You switch in Venusaur. Uxie executes a slow U-turn, taking whatever move your Venusaur uses. Rain sweeper X gets in safe and sound and ready to wreck havoc. You're basically forced to use Sleep Powder against Uxie, although after that you get a free shot at whichever rain sweeper is coming in (and they're all vulnerable either to Energy Ball or Sludge Bomb or Power Whip or Return). Personally if it were I using Uxie, I'd go to another rain dancer who can somehow get my sweeper in safely (exploding, another U-turn, etc).
I'm saying that you bring Venusaur into U-Turn, which isn't hard to predict since that's what a lot of Uxies do these days. If you go to something else, you've just waste your rain turns.
It's not the crit on Qwilfish, it's the way Flare accidentally sacrificed his Gorebyss.
Since this discussion involves me and my play, I will comment.
First off, the crit on Qwilfish mattered a lot. Setting up rain is invaluable for obvious reasons, and even if it had died after that I could have forced Tops out with Ludicolo (just like I did in the actual match...) and be confident of outspeeding and severely weakening Saur with Zen Headbutt (from the amount of damage Seed Bomb did I can tell it was a 4/0 Venusaur variant, since 15% is not possible otherwise, and that variant takes enough from Zen Headbutt to put it at around 20% with lefties) while either taking the sleep and Heal Belling it later on or taking Sludge Bomb and surviving like a champ (yes, my Ludicolo is capable of surviving non-LO Sludge bomb from Venusaur, although it would have died the next turn from recoil). After that, I could have then swept nearly your ENTIRE TEAM with my single kabutops in 5 turns of rain, as I almost did later on (thank you Healing Wish).
So basically, despite my horribly play and game-changing hax, you still almost lost, despite having multiple rain checks. Clearly rain is not broken!!!11111one
As several people pointed out, that warstory is a terrible example. Use better arguments, and do not bring it up.
So basically, despite my horribly play and game-changing hax, you still almost lost, despite having multiple rain checks. Clearly rain is not broken!!!11111one
As several people pointed out, that warstory is a terrible example. Use better arguments, and do not bring it up.
It is an example that I can make mistakes and still hang on, which is a clear contradiction of Smurf saying its "nigh impossible". If I didn't play like an idiot multiple times in the match, you would lost a truckload (And that it would have been likely 4-0 or above, like I do against the rest of the people playing Rain against me). It wouldn't have been warstory-able. But fine, if you don't want to talk about that, how about the other 2-3 times I've played your Rain team and won Flare??
There's no point in comparing your screw ups to mine. I lost a sweeper in early game due to a stupid move. You made slightly-less-than-optimal moves that didn't cost you anything but turns (which are important, granted, but not 1/3 of your offensive force important). I screwed up harder.
The actual point is that you had a team with multiple solid rain checks and barely managed to eek out a victory. How can you consider that a viable example of your point? If anything, it's a viable example of mine.
And I don't know. Did you save logs of those other two to three times?
I've beaten players who are better than you (no offense mate) multiple times, so it's not a particularly relevant discussion in the best of circumstances, but asking me to remember matches that happened almost half a year ago just makes it an ever crappier thing to discuss.
If you want to argue why rain isn't broken, you'll need to point out how an average team in this metagame can beat it without just switching around for 6 turns and hoping to get lucky. Especially against a good player...
