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Offensive Team that got me in the Top 100

RaikouLover

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I have been trying to climb the ladder for some time, and to preferably do it with a theme team. Through Maniaclyrasist's tutoring, and assistence from several friends such as Blue Kirby, Bologo, and Wayff 13, I finally made a dominant core that catapulted me into the top 100 with just a couple hours of use. So, heres the team!

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Look at that group... 3 OU, 2 UU, 1 BL / OU

Anyway... here we go:


Lead:
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Quilfish @ Focus Sash
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
*Waterfall
*Taunt
*Rain Dance
*Explosion

I'm getting known for this little guy. He needs more love. Anyway, the focus sash guarentees Rain Dance, giving him 538 speed making him faster than everything. I waterfall if I think I can KO (something like Gengar or Infernape), if not I just blow up. Simple, yet effective. No one wants to be down to 5 pokemon with the rain up... this tips the battle in my favor. If you think the 538 speed is overkill consider this: 269 speed without rain lets me Taunt a lot of slower things that try to set up (Gyarados, Breloom, Bronzong, etc.). Quilfish really doesn't need to survive anything anyway. Many people also make the mistake of bringing in their bulky water or celebi, fearing a powerful waterfall, and getting an Explosion... OUCH.


The Set Up:
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Bronzong @ Damp Rock
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Attack / 4 Speed / 96 Special Defense
*Hypnosis
*Stealth Rock
*Rain Dance
*Explosion

Simple Bronzong build found on a lotta rain dance teams. Comes in on things like Mamo and Garchomp, puts the switch to sleep, sets up 8 turns of hell for the other team, and booms. Simple and effective.


Mr. Versitility:
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Celebi @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Speed / 220 Special Attack
*Leafstorm
*Psychic
*Recover
*Perish Song

Celebi is the jack of all trades on this team. I made this set when I heard about tinkerbell and customized him for my team. Hits 245 speed to get the jump on Tyranitar and its counters. Anyway, he absorbs status, phazes greedy stat uppers like Raikou and Lucario, hits dumb switch ins like Heracross and Infernape with Psychic, and Leafstorms everything else into oblivion. Recover off the life orb damage and get the hell outta there. Perish song also seals the victory against stubborn last man pokemon, as I can just recover until they die.


The Savior:
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Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
*Outrage
*Dragon Claw
*Earthquake
*Surf

Garchomp really saves rain dance teams when the rain dies because he allows me to finish off that threatening pokemon so that I can get the rain back up later. I also like the fact that he can operate in Sandstorm, which is something not many rain dance pokemon can do, which separates this team from a standard rain team. I went with Surf after reading Jbates warstory, and Dragon Claw because I do NOT want to be locked into outrage early in the match.


Mid Game Sweeper:
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Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 20 HP / 252 Attack / 236 Speed
*Waterfall
*Stone-Edge
*X-Scissor
*Swords Dance

Standard Kabutops sweeping set. However, Maniaclyrasist suggested to outfit my team to survive in sandstorm, and suggested this EV spread. He gets 560 speed in the rain, which is overkill, but 280 speed without rain certainly is not. This allows me to outspeed everything up to and including lucario without rain, which can be a real bitch if he gets his swords dance in. Sandstorm doesn't hamper his ability too much, as those pokemon are mostly slow, and it gives me a special defense boost to set up. I use him earlier in the match, because water physical I think is one of the best attack types because nothing walls it. Hippowdon and Gliscor don't want to eat Waterfalls now do they?


The Superstar Late-game Gloryhound:
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Kingdra @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Mild
EVs: 120 Attack / 136 Speed / 252 Special Attack
*Surf
*Draco Meteor
*Waterfall
*Rain Dance

My staple Kingdra set, with more speed EVs and less physical attack power. Blissey is easily taken care of by the rest of my team, but Waterfall 2HKOs her anyway still, if I predict her switch in. Draco Meteor hits annoying shit like Breloom, Roserade, Starmie, and other weak water / grass types that resist surf for a OHKO. It also OHKOs Gyarados with Stealth Rock. Again, he has an enormous 480 speed in the rain, but the selling point is the magical 240 to beat breloom without rain. I could bump 5 more points of speed into him to beat all versions of Tar and his counters to the punch, but then I lose the ability to 2HKO Blissey. Surf smashes through everything else.


Well thats the team! It has done very well so far, plowing through many good battlers and leaving them in the dust. My only losses have been to silly hax or yanmega late game sweeps (if he's not leading, I have a huge problem with him). I wish I had a way to fix that.... Any suggestions?

EDIT: I have neglected to make a threat list simply because a rain dance offense strategy doesn't really accurate "counter" many of the offensive threats in the game. I guess you can call it "a best defense is a good offense strategy" as most offensive pokemon are just outsped and OHKOed anyway because they are frail and rely on speed and attack power.

Rate away Smogon!!!!
 
Keep making them switch with Celebi until Yanmega comes out. He'll either protect for the extra speed boost, allowing you to switch to Kabutops. With Swift Swim, I believe you're faster so go for the OHKO with Stone Edge. Their other option is to switch Yanmega out again, but you get the free turn anyways.

Also, Stealth Rock on Yanmega nets you a 50% weaker pokemon. Priority moves here will help you out a lot (they do in general, anyways).

On another note, you might think about taking Outrage out and putting in Swords Dance on Garchomp. If you see a free turn, it's very useful. If you don't sweep enough to cripple their whole team, then you'll pave the way for Kabutops and Kingdra to roll on through.

Other than that, nothing I can think of right away.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how you beat me so badly despite me actually having read this thread prior to our fight (I vaguely recalled the quilfish).

Very good team, the quilfish completely messed me up (and put another point into the "stop leading with spiritomb" side of my brain)
 
hahaha

intresting team, I love it!
However, Bronzong as a Rain Dancer is overkill: if I recall correctly, you have 3 RDers. That's one too many, imo
I love Kabutops: I've always wanted to make a team with Relicanth, using Rain Dance and Sand Stream.

However, Im a crazy bitch ;P

good luck with the top 100, maybe put U-Turn over Psychic on Celebi.
 
I need Brozong's 8 turn rain dance to open up the flood gates for kingdra and kabutops. Kingdra's Rain Dance is mainly a filler, and I only really use it against Tyranitar, because people sandstorm whore me and immediately switch to their beloved Garchomp. Kingdra screws them!

sent out Tyranitar!
swithed in Garchomp!
Kingdra used Rain Dance!
Kingdra used Draco Meteor!
Garchomp fainted!

happens many of times...
 
Interesting Rain Dance team, I've been trying to create one but no success so far. As for Garchomp, does it really need Surf? What does that hurt more then Fire Blast? Aside from Bulky Grounds, that is.
 
Bulky grounds are his main counters. Really its just a filler slot. Since its going to be mostly raining, a super effective Fire blast in the rain will do less than a Surf in the rain anyway to steels, unless your talking about Forry, who kingdra switches in easily and washes away for a OHKO.
 
Awesome team man, though I hope people don't critisize you from now on. I can recommend some wish support on this team, because both of your main Rain sweepers/abusers have LO, which makes you not have a very long survivability. I like when you face other weather teams(Sandstorm mostly) because you can get rid of their Tyranitar and their Hippo, and get a sweep :)
 
Is it me or is this team outright walled by Celebi? I have been considering this for a while on Rain Dance teams, and it will fit you're team perfectly.

My idea is Calm Mind Jirachi, 252 hp/ 180 special attack/ 78 speed- Thunder- Psychic- Calm Mind- Wish. The 100 accurate thunder coupled with serene grace and calm minds equals a huge threat that can cripple and decimate unprepared teams. Like Wayff said, you need Wish support, and I say you also need a Celebi counter. This set destroys any Celebi with ease because of the fact it cannot touch you without the rare Perish Song, and CM celebis will CM race with you until something happens, though you can explode in extreme situations like that once Jirachi is killed by a crit etc. This fills 2 needed roles in this team. Replace Celebi for this, as this can counter Gyarados as well and hit hard at the same time.

That is sure to be helpful. Good luck with this innovative team.
 
Thanks Slice. I'll test him out. I like Celebi though as a bulky water eliminator though. It really paves the way for Kingdra to sweep.

For other Celebis, I haven't had too much trouble with them. Quilfish or Bronzong usually explode on it, but Kabutops' X-Scissor OHKOs after Swords dance, but is still a 2HKO without it. Celebi is forced to kill Kabutops, which leaves him low enough for Kingdra's Draco Meteor to eliminate him.

My team kinda laughs at Gyarados also, as Kingdra can switch in on a DD, still outspeed and OHKO with Draco Meteor (with Stealth Rock). Kabutops can do the same with Stone-Edge. Celebi can do the same with Leafstorm...
 
Great team. It actually beat my test team (Under my Byakuya account) when your Adamant Scarfchomp beat my Adamant Scarfchomp when it was 1-1.

Or actually, it may have been changed to SDYache at that point, my memory is failing me. In either case, great team. It'll give most OU teams trouble.
 
Ah, then I'd already changed Chomp by that time then. Also, it may seem odd, but of all your pokemon, only Kabutops/SR/Perish Song can hit Shedinja at all. It's a rare pokemon, but if you lose Tops, it's a scary thought.
 
hey, what about me? i told you to use kabutops on shoddy :(. then i got beaten by a garchomp that stays in after he's confused by outrage >:(
 
hey, what about me? i told you to use kabutops on shoddy :(. then i got beaten by a garchomp that stays in after he's confused by outrage >:(
 
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