Challenge One of the hardest Pokemon questions of all time

Status
Not open for further replies.
rufusdrumknott said:
What were his other questions like?
Click to expand...
Here's a quick one:

In a 1v1, a level 100 Hoothoot and level 100 Steelix face off. Steelix faints in the first turn and the Hoothoot wins.
- Steelix does not have a move to hurt itself, including explosion
- Hoothoot does not have any attacking moves
- No weather conditions or status conditions have been activated

What happened?
 
DragonWhale said:
Here's a quick one:

In a 1v1, a level 100 Hoothoot and level 100 Steelix face off. Steelix faints in the first turn and the Hoothoot wins.
- Steelix does not have a move to hurt itself, including explosion
- Hoothoot does not have any attacking moves
- No weather conditions or status conditions have been activated

What happened?
Click to expand...

Hoothoot used Mirror Move after Steelix used Earthquake?

Edit: Sorry if this off topic, just wanted to know what the solutions to his other questions might look like, in case it provided some clues.
 
rufusdrumknott said:
Hoothoot used Mirror Move after Steelix used Earthquake?

Edit: Sorry if this off topic, just wanted to know what the solutions to his other questions might look like, in case it provided some clues.
Click to expand...
Well it won't go down to an Earthquake, but the solution was Hoothoot Mirror Moves Steelix's Fissure (Gen 1 TM on Onix) in the GSC meta.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of what we're up against.
 
EtherDrive said:
Octillery @ Leppa Berry

Natural gift
soak
Bullet seed


Edit: Maractus... just maractus....


atleast there's something new
Click to expand...
Yeah, I'm going to jot down the list of pokemon that nullify soak and are not water-types for reference.

Paras line, Croagunk line, Helioptile line, Jynx, Lileep line, Maractus, and the Cacnea line.
 
DragonWhale said:
Yeah, I'm going to jot down the list of pokemon that nullify soak and are not water-types for reference.

Paras line, Croagunk line, Helioptile line, Jynx, Lileep line, Maractus, and the Cacnea line.
Click to expand...

Also Arceus. Fire + Fighting hits all of those SE (of you count Fire as SE on Dry Skin croa) but also magic bouncers negate soak, which are Esp/Xatu, which means you need dark
 
Good catch. This would lead to a reasonable conclusion that to use Soak you need either Mold Breaker or Skill Swap. The first one is exclusive to Basculin and I don't think the latter exists.
 
EtherDrive said:
Octillery @ Leppa Berry

Natural gift
soak
Bullet seed


Edit: Maractus... just maractus....


atleast there's something new
Click to expand...

You miss out on Magic Bouncers, which can be hit by Thief, but that still leaves Maractus. If you could somehow squeeze both Thief and Signal Beam, I think you'd cover them all. (Don't hold me to this pls. Also, a new way to say 4MSS haha.)
 
Are megas counted in this? Because mega absol also blocks that Octillery combo and isn't weak to thief

(Also Multitype is immune to both Soak and Skill Swap)
 
Hmm, could there possible be a trick to this question? Like, if you worded it correctly in your first post, I'm going along with the logic of so:

In XY 1v1, name a Pokemon that can hit EVERY Pokemon for super-effective damage with only 3 moves.
Click to expand...

In 1v1 you can't hit EVERY Pokemon because you're only versing one opponent. Thus in order for this riddle to be possible the opponent you're facing must be EVERY Pokemon, so either:

1. You're facing a Pokemon that can Transform into any Pokemon (Ditto or Mew).
2. If you were to combine ALL the types together, you'll get a Pokemon who's only weak to Rock-type (and the move Freeze-Dry).

As for why they limit you to 3 moves, it's meant to throw you off (or to assure there wasn't any other possible answer).

Now I could just be overthinking this, but to me this sounds like there's a curve ball coming because whoever came up with this question must have an answer and if there's a legitimate answer they would have to have spent a long time figuring it out and making sure no other Pokemon can stop it (because just one Pokemon that stops it means that the riddle is faulty).
 
Pikachu315111 said:
Hmm, could there possible be a trick to this question? Like, if you worded it correctly in your first post, I'm going along with the logic of so:



In 1v1 you can't hit EVERY Pokemon because you're only versing one opponent. Thus in order for this riddle to be possible the opponent you're facing must be EVERY Pokemon, so either:

1. You're facing a Pokemon that can Transform into any Pokemon (Ditto or Mew).
2. If you were to combine ALL the types together, you'll get a Pokemon who's only weak to Rock-type (and the move Freeze-Dry).

As for why they limit you to 3 moves, it's meant to throw you off (or to assure there wasn't any other possible answer).

Now I could just be overthinking this, but to me this sounds like there's a curve ball coming because whoever came up with this question must have an answer and if there's a legitimate answer they would have to have spent a long time figuring it out and making sure no other Pokemon can stop it (because just one Pokemon that stops it means that the riddle is faulty).
Click to expand...
No, it's nothing nonsensical like that. 1v1 means 1 pokemon vs 1 pokemon.
They limit the moves to 3 because with 4, you could just use Kecleon with Skill Swap, a fighting move, a dark move, and a non-psychic or normal move to reset Sabletomb's typing.
 
Basculin is the closest I can find, but in order to hit Water super effectively, it needs HP Electric or Grass.
Ugh, this is difficult.

Does anyone know when the person who originally came up with this will share the answer?
 
Last edited:
DragonWhale said:
No, it's nothing nonsensical like that. 1v1 means 1 pokemon vs 1 pokemon.
They limit the moves to 3 because with 4, you could just use Kecleon with Skill Swap, a fighting move, a dark move, and a non-psychic or normal move to reset Sabletomb's typing.
Click to expand...
You can do that without a fourth move though. Color Change transforms you into a pure type of whatever type hits you, unless you're already purely that type, so Sableye and Spiritomb would become pure Dark types. A Kecleon like the one in the OP is the answer.
 
Marty D said:
You can do that without a fourth move though. Color Change transforms you into a pure type of whatever type hits you, unless you're already purely that type, so Sableye and Spiritomb would become pure Dark types. A Kecleon like the one in the OP is the answer.
Click to expand...
No, Color Change will not activate if you are already that type, even if you aren't purely that type. So a Dark/whatever with Color Change will not become pure Dark if hit by a Dark-type move.
 
Vader_the_White said:
No, Color Change will not activate if you are already that type, even if you aren't purely that type. So a Dark/whatever with Color Change will not become pure Dark if hit by a Dark-type move.
Click to expand...
Oh, I could have sworn that was the case in an earlier generation. It's definitely not the case now though, my mistake!
 
Marty D said:
You can do that without a fourth move though. Color Change transforms you into a pure type of whatever type hits you, unless you're already purely that type, so Sableye and Spiritomb would become pure Dark types. A Kecleon like the one in the OP is the answer.
Click to expand...
If you're a dual type with color change and you're hit with one of those types, the ability won't activate.

EDIT: Greninja'd
 
What about color change Kecleon with skill swap/fury cutter/rock slide?

Hits magic bouncers se and skill swaps everything else?
scizor and durant
 
flargananddingle said:
What about color change Kecleon with skill swap/fury cutter/rock slide?

Hits magic bouncers se and skill swaps everything else?
scizor and durant
Click to expand...
No, it hits those two. You just have to hit them with Rock Slide first to reset their typing. The only problem is Arceus, Aegislash, and Crustle (Bug and Rock).
 
Vader_the_White said:
No, it hits those two. You just have to hit them with Rock Slide first to reset their typing. The only problem is Arceus, Aegislash, and Crustle (Bug and Rock).
Click to expand...
So basically..Kecleon is totally out because it needs skill swap and can't possibly cover arceus with 2 moves...hm
Does soak work the same as skill swap color change?
Soak seedbomb pursuit pelipper beats everything if not

Or soak signal beam tbolt lanturn...tbh I thing that one's better
 
flargananddingle said:
So basically..Kecleon is totally out because it needs skill swap and can't possibly cover arceus with 2 moves...hm
Does soak work the same as skill swap color change?
Soak seedbomb pursuit pelipper beats everything if not

Or soak signal beam tbolt lanturn...tbh I thing that one's better
Click to expand...

Can't soak an Arceus, so you still need a Fighting-type move to hit it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top