Go to the calculator and run some calcs yourself. Plug in a few prime hits from things you would want it to wall and see how it holds up.
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The weather in gen 5 (unlimited weather) made things like Excadrill very good. This is also the case with Manaphy which had 1 rest turn in rain. Pokemon like Politoed, Tyranitar and Kingdra were high ranked in viability rankings and things like Stoutland, who are now unranked, were A rank (Stoutland A- I believe) so weather wars made a whole different ranking and other pokemon useful who are nowadays pretty bad
Would mix charazard X be a good thing? I was thinking:
Mild nature
Overheat
Dragon claw
Roost
Ancient power
252 atk 252 spe 4sp.atk
Mild nature boost special atk with out losing atk and keeps sp def
Overheat for a suprise first move, dragon claw for stab, roost for recovery and ancient power for heatran
The EV choice is kind of obvious...
Tell me your thoughts! And if you have a better idea give a reason!
*edit: earthquake over ancient power, thank you Blake337
Mild nature
Overheat
Dragon claw
Roost
Ancient power
252 atk 252 spe 4sp.atk
Mild nature boost special atk with out losing atk and keeps sp def
Overheat for a suprise first move, dragon claw for stab, roost for recovery and ancient power for heatran
The EV choice is kind of obvious...
Tell me your thoughts! And if you have a better idea give a reason!
*edit: earthquake over ancient power, thank you Blake337
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I would take away from the special defense. Priority is more likely to impact Gren. Running some quick calcs, running Hasty costs you about 5% against stronger priority users (Weavile, Scizor, Mega Pinsir). That 5% assumes the priority hit is neutral btw, because Protean could leave you in quite a few different places typing-wise.
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252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0- Def Greninja: 264-312 (92.3 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 237-280 (82.8 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Run Naive. You survive unboosted SD Talon's Brave Bird and most likely take it down with you due to LO damage.
What are the evs and nature on the sub toxic jirachi set?
evs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe nature: Careful
**stole it from the analysis**
Since you mentioned Heatran I'll assume this is OU. And, if you want to get rid of Heatran, why not just run Earthquake? Heatran is neutral to Ancientpower and its 60 power is pitiful. Mixzard X is not a bad idea but Ancientpower is not very good IMO. Rock Slide or Earthquake are better, depending on what you want to check.
What are the 32 speed evs used to outspeed?
I like Poison Jab -- hits grass types too, which is nice.
As far as I could calculate, max speed base 61's and below (Tyranitar, Sylveon, Magnezone, Swampert, Lapras, Pangoro, to name a few), neutral natured 252 base 72's and below (Slurpuff, Tyrantrum, Mega Tyranitar, Bisharp, Metagross, Breloom) and non-invested base 103's and below (which doesn't happen sadly).
The problem with Mixed Charizard X is that there's effectively nothing with defenses so lopsided that it beats out the Dragon Dance set besides things you're not likely to see like Avalugg and Mega Aggron.
Mixed ZardX would work rather similarly to MixMence, in that it would rely primarily on its physical attack and keep the big Overheat (compared to Salamence's Draco Meteor) in the back pocket in case a major physical wall comes out. However, the major difference here is that ZardX gets Tough Claws, and the damage boost off of Tough Claws is so immense as to almost completely nullify the benefits of carrying the surprise special move. Plus, Mega Charizard X works especially well with Dragon Dance, and you lose the benefits of that synergy on a mixed set.
I mean, you can do it. Overheat will outperform a neutral move against a heavy physical wall, and you can get a surprise hit there. But I'd probably say that the special-based suckerpunch surprise hit probably isn't worth giving up ZardX's absurd sweep potential, and after a DD or two there's nothing that Overheat will outperform Flare Blitz against anyway.
I'd keep it but I wouldn't use it until ORAS comes out and you can give it Earth Power
Lots of questions
How hard is it to make a "good" team?
How long should it take?
What I mean is, assuming I were to decide to make a new team and went "Oh, I like X so I will use him. Y is also good so I will use him etc..."
Is a "good" team determined by how good each member is, how good they work together, or is it based mostly on how good the player is?
Also, what would you say is mandatory to any team? (for instance, I mandatorize ice type moves for OU.)
How hard is it to make a "good" team?
How long should it take?
What I mean is, assuming I were to decide to make a new team and went "Oh, I like X so I will use him. Y is also good so I will use him etc..."
Is a "good" team determined by how good each member is, how good they work together, or is it based mostly on how good the player is?
Also, what would you say is mandatory to any team? (for instance, I mandatorize ice type moves for OU.)
It depends on your teambuilding skills and meta knowledge. Some people can make good teams in 20 minutes and others take several days to chose the pokemon via hit and trial. You can only know the effectiveness of a team by using it... a lot. It depends on all the factors you listed, imo the most important is how it matches against the metagame, especially S & A rank mons.
As for the mandatory things, a Stealth Rock setter and checks for the top threats.
Got rid of it :(
1.) depends on your skill level. Don't worry about it.
2.) a few hours at least - 10% making the first draft, 90% playtesting and creasing out any kinks you find.
3.) While the first statement is true to an extent, the second statement is the biggest: Synergy. I can garuntee 100% that a team made of MegaZardX/Latios/Greninja/Keldeo/2 random A+ mons will be much worse than a team with obscene synergy made of C+ mons or below.
4.) Nothing is 100% mandatory. However, you should have at least one check for the top 30 used pokemon, and one reliable counter/two checks for the top 10.
What is the sd mega scizor set i keep hearing about? is it the speedy offensive one or is it the bulky sd roost set?
The set that has been popularized by Crashinboombang is offensive SD mega scizor. On mobile now so I can't link, but check his sample team in the OU Player of the week 3 thread for the set, it is incredibly powerful and hard to stop after some boosts.
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Superpower
What does running a jolly nature out speed? I usually run adamant with ~136 speed to outspeed standard rotom-w and heatran.
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