Programming Pokémon Showdown Damage Calculator

jcbc

formerly Xjckillerx
#76
why don't add the moves, items and abilities that left in the calc? Aswell might want to updated some sets that are still being old in the cal (even they got updated on the analysis)
 

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#77
why don't add the moves, items and abilities that left in the calc? Aswell might want to updated some sets that are still being old in the cal (even they got updated on the analysis)
Which moves, items, and abilities are missing? If you give me the list I’ll add them asap
 

jcbc

formerly Xjckillerx
#78
So as you requested to me to here is the list of the moves, items and abilities that left to be added on the calculator:

Absorb, Acid, Acid Armor, Acupressure, After You, Ally Switch, Aqua Ring, Aromatic Mist, Assist, Attract, Aurora Veil, Baby-Doll-Eyes, Baneful Bunker, Barrage, Beat Up, Bide, Block, Bubble, Camouflage, Captitative, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Comet Punch, Confide, Confusion, Constrict, Conversion/2, Copycat, Cosmic Power, Cotton Spore, Counter, Crush Grip, Cut, Detect, Dizzy Punch, Dragon Dance, Dragon Breath, Echoed Voice, Eerie Impulse, Egg Bomb, Electrify, Embargo, Ember, Entrainment, Fairy Lock, Fairy Wind, Fake Tears, False Swipe, Feather Dance, Fissure, Flash, Flatter, Flower Healing, Flower Shield, Focus Energy, Follow Me, Foresight, Fury Attack, Fury Cutter, Gastro Acid, Gear Up, Grass Whistle, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growl, Growth, Grudge, Guard Split, Guard Swap, Guillotine, Hail, Happy Hour, Harden, Happy Hour, Headbutt, Heal Block, Heart Swap, Hear Crash, Hold Back, Hold Hands, Horn Drill, Howl, Hypnosis, Ice Ball, Imprison, Ion Deluge, Instruct, Karate Chop, Kinesis, Laser Focus, Leafage, Leer, Lick, Lock On, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Magnetic Flux, Magnitude, Mat Block, Mean Look, Meditate, Mega Drain, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Memento, Metal Burst, Metal Sound, Metronome, Mimic, Mind Reader, Minimize, Miracle Eye, Mirror Coat, Mist, Misty Terrain, Morning Sun, Mud Slap, Mud Spot, Nightmare, Noble Roar, Octazooka, Odor Sleuth, Pain Split, Parting Shot, Pay Day, Peck, Perish Song, Petal Blizzard, Play Nice, Poison Gas, Poison Powder, Poison Sting, Pound, Powder, Powder Snow, Power Split, Power Swap, Power Trick, Present, Psybeam, Psychic Terrain, Psych Up, Psywave, Purify, Quash, Rage, Rain Dance, Razor Wing, Reflect Type, Role Play, Rolling Kick, Rollout, Rototiller, Safeguard, Sand Attack, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Scratch, Screech, Sharpen, Shore Up, Simple Beam, Sketch, Skill Swap, Slam, Sleep Powder, Smelling Salts, Smog, Smokescreen, Snatch, Snore, Soak, Speed Swap, Spider Web, Spike Cannon, Spite, Spit Up, Splash, Spotlight, Stomp, Strength, Strength Sap, String Shot, Stun Spore, Supersonic, Swallow, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Tearful Look, Teeter Dance, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Shock, Tickle, Topsy-Turvy, Torment, Toxic Thread, Transform, Trick-or-Treat, Triple Kick, Trump Card, Twister, Venom Drench, Vine Grip, Vine Whip, Water Sport, Withdraw, Wonder Room, Work Up, Worry Seed.

Absorb Bulb, Cell Battery, Damp Rock, Full Incense, Heat Rock, Icy Rock, Lax Incense, Odd Incense, Rock Incense, Rose Incense, Sea Incense, Wave Incense.

Anger Point, Anticipation, Aroma Veil, Big Pecks, Cheek Pouch, Color Change, Competitive, Compound Eyes, Cursed Body, Cute Charm, Damp, Early Bird, Effect Spore, Flame Body, Flower Veil, Frisk, Friend Guard, Gluttony, Gooey, Healer, Heavy Metal, Heatproof, Harvest, Hustle, Hydration, Honey Gather, Illuminate, Illusion, Inmunity, Imposter, Inner Focus, Insomnia, Iron Barbs, Keen Eye, Leaf Guard, Light Metal, Limber, Magic Bounce, Magician, Magma Armor, Magnet Pull, Moody, Moxie, Multiscale, Multitype, Mummy, Natural Cure, No Guard, Normalize, Oblivious, Own Tempo, Persistent, Pickpocket, Pickup, Poison Point, Prankster, Pressure, Serene Grace, Shadow Tag, Shed Skin, Speed Boost, Stall, Stance Change, Static, Steadfast, Stench, Suction Cups, Super Luck, Sweet Veil, Symbiosis, Synchronize, Tangled Feet, Telepathy, Trace, Truant, Unburden, Victory Star, Vital Spirit, Water Veil, Wonder Skin, Zen Mode.

Hope it helps out to make calculator better Austin
 
#79
So as you requested to me to here is the list of the moves, items and abilities that left to be added on the calculator:

Absorb, Acid, Acid Armor, Acupressure, After You, Ally Switch, Aqua Ring, Aromatic Mist, Assist, Attract, Aurora Veil, Baby-Doll-Eyes, Baneful Bunker, Barrage, Beat Up, Bide, Block, Bubble, Camouflage, Captitative, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Comet Punch, Confide, Confusion, Constrict, Conversion/2, Copycat, Cosmic Power, Cotton Spore, Counter, Crush Grip, Cut, Detect, Dizzy Punch, Dragon Dance, Dragon Breath, Echoed Voice, Eerie Impulse, Egg Bomb, Electrify, Embargo, Ember, Entrainment, Fairy Lock, Fairy Wind, Fake Tears, False Swipe, Feather Dance, Fissure, Flash, Flatter, Flower Healing, Flower Shield, Focus Energy, Follow Me, Foresight, Fury Attack, Fury Cutter, Gastro Acid, Gear Up, Grass Whistle, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growl, Growth, Grudge, Guard Split, Guard Swap, Guillotine, Hail, Happy Hour, Harden, Happy Hour, Headbutt, Heal Block, Heart Swap, Hear Crash, Hold Back, Hold Hands, Horn Drill, Howl, Hypnosis, Ice Ball, Imprison, Ion Deluge, Instruct, Karate Chop, Kinesis, Laser Focus, Leafage, Leer, Lick, Lock On, Lucky Chant, Magic Room, Magnetic Flux, Magnitude, Mat Block, Mean Look, Meditate, Mega Drain, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Memento, Metal Burst, Metal Sound, Metronome, Mimic, Mind Reader, Minimize, Miracle Eye, Mirror Coat, Mist, Misty Terrain, Morning Sun, Mud Slap, Mud Spot, Nightmare, Noble Roar, Octazooka, Odor Sleuth, Pain Split, Parting Shot, Pay Day, Peck, Perish Song, Petal Blizzard, Play Nice, Poison Gas, Poison Powder, Poison Sting, Pound, Powder, Powder Snow, Power Split, Power Swap, Power Trick, Present, Psybeam, Psychic Terrain, Psych Up, Psywave, Purify, Quash, Rage, Rain Dance, Razor Wing, Reflect Type, Role Play, Rolling Kick, Rollout, Rototiller, Safeguard, Sand Attack, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Scratch, Screech, Sharpen, Shore Up, Simple Beam, Sketch, Skill Swap, Slam, Sleep Powder, Smelling Salts, Smog, Smokescreen, Snatch, Snore, Soak, Speed Swap, Spider Web, Spike Cannon, Spite, Spit Up, Splash, Spotlight, Stomp, Strength, Strength Sap, String Shot, Stun Spore, Supersonic, Swallow, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Tearful Look, Teeter Dance, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Shock, Tickle, Topsy-Turvy, Torment, Toxic Thread, Transform, Trick-or-Treat, Triple Kick, Trump Card, Twister, Venom Drench, Vine Grip, Vine Whip, Water Sport, Withdraw, Wonder Room, Work Up, Worry Seed.

Absorb Bulb, Cell Battery, Damp Rock, Full Incense, Heat Rock, Icy Rock, Lax Incense, Odd Incense, Rock Incense, Rose Incense, Sea Incense, Wave Incense.

Anger Point, Anticipation, Aroma Veil, Big Pecks, Cheek Pouch, Color Change, Competitive, Compound Eyes, Cursed Body, Cute Charm, Damp, Early Bird, Effect Spore, Flame Body, Flower Veil, Frisk, Friend Guard, Gluttony, Gooey, Healer, Heavy Metal, Heatproof, Harvest, Hustle, Hydration, Honey Gather, Illuminate, Illusion, Inmunity, Imposter, Inner Focus, Insomnia, Iron Barbs, Keen Eye, Leaf Guard, Light Metal, Limber, Magic Bounce, Magician, Magma Armor, Magnet Pull, Moody, Moxie, Multiscale, Multitype, Mummy, Natural Cure, No Guard, Normalize, Oblivious, Own Tempo, Persistent, Pickpocket, Pickup, Poison Point, Prankster, Pressure, Serene Grace, Shadow Tag, Shed Skin, Speed Boost, Stall, Stance Change, Static, Steadfast, Stench, Suction Cups, Super Luck, Sweet Veil, Symbiosis, Synchronize, Tangled Feet, Telepathy, Trace, Truant, Unburden, Victory Star, Vital Spirit, Water Veil, Wonder Skin, Zen Mode.

Hope it helps out to make calculator better Austin
A lot of these have no effect on damage, so I think adding them would be a waste of time. Remember, programmers are people, too.
 

jcbc

formerly Xjckillerx
#80
A lot of these have no effect on damage, so I think adding them would be a waste of time. Remember, programmers are people, too.
I know some of them might be useless adding but some others none and it gives a more realistic usage just trying to help, i made the post now they can ignore it, add some or add everything, is up to them, i'm not trying to pressure or make anyone work for no reason, just thought that if they are real moves/abilities/items why don't just add them :blobshrug:
 
#82
Not sure if this is the place to post it but there seems to be a bug in how the calculator works out the % chance to kill of repeated use of moves that weaken offensive stats (like Superpower and Draco Meteor for example). It seems to show the reverse percentage of what it should - as in, say if a move has a 75% chance to 2HKO, it will say it has a 25% chance to 2HKO. Examples below.



 
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#84
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so as u can see in the last imagine, when using Once, Twice or more times for draco, it doesnt take choice specs into the count, with everything else it works and like if u put Lifeorb on kingdra instead of specs, doing calc by last picture it will deal more damage with lifeorb then specs.
 
#85
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374666310035963905/456926047624232974/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374666310035963905/456926120319647754/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374666310035963905/456926167132536854/unknown.png

so as u can see in the last imagine, when using Once, Twice or more times for draco, it doesnt take choice specs into the count, with everything else it works and like if u put Lifeorb on kingdra instead of specs, doing calc by last picture it will deal more damage with lifeorb then specs.
I don't understand what you are saying, the calcs you see are good.
Draco Meteor (once) without Choice Specs does 29.2 - 34.8% , so with Choice Specs it should do as with +1 SpA, which is 44.2 - 52.2% if you check the calc. This is exactly the value you are reporting, so there is no mistake here.
Also Life Orb does not do more damage, it does 38 - 45.3%.

EDIT: removed my comments about more hits since I didn't test it completely, see below
 
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#87
Ok, I understood, there is indeed a bug that I will develop further down so it gets fixed more easily.
But I realized it after much testing, since your explanation was really not clear and misleading:
- your first post makes believe that even with 'Once', the calc doesn't work, but it does
- currently Life Orb does not do more damage at 'Twice' than Specs, you have to go to '3 times' for it to happen and make the bug obvious, which is what mislead me
- the pics you provided do not make obvious what the bug is (a pic with 3 times with Specs, and 3 times with Life Orb would clearly show there is a problem for instance)

Anyway thanks for the hint, and here is a detailed report:
Choice items (I tested both) do not work well with multi-hit moves (I tested Superpower for instance too).
From the second hit on, these items are not taken into account anymore.

Here is the proof:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 208+ SpD Mantine: 165-195 (44.2 - 52.2%)
so the min damage is 165.
-2 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 208+ SpD Mantine: 84-99 (22.5 - 26.5%)
so the min damage at -2 SpA is 84, so the total min damage of 'Twice' Draco Meteor should be 249.
But currently we have: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 248 HP / 208+ SpD Mantine: 220-261 (58.9 - 69.9%)
And 220-165=55 which is the result of no choice Specs for the second hit:
-2 252+ SpA Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 208+ SpD Mantine: 55-66 (14.7 - 17.6%)
demonstrating that indeed after the first hit, the Choice Specs is not taken into account anymore.
 
#88
Since the removal of ORAS movesets, some errors have crept in. Machoke, despite its NFE status, no longer works in combo with Eviolite. See the following calcs:
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Machopeur sans évoluroc.png
To compare, I did the calcs with Gurdurr but with the BST of Machoke:
Ouvrifier avec évoluroc.png
Ouvrifier sans évoluroc.png
This is the only malfunction that I found but it is not impossible that other NFEs are concerned.
 

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