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NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

Technically, phase ended here.

Day 3 Votals (Final)
(8) No Vote: Shane the Shroomish, Duskfall98, bluedoom, a fairy, Alice Kazumi, Laurel, M2H, joey (Hammer!)
(3) Laurel: HydrogenHydreigon, JALMONT
(1) M2H: ImaginaryNeon

Voteless: Celever, StupidFlandrs48

You all decide that No Vote must be a very scummy mafia member and attempt to off them. Unfortunately, they seem to have vanished without a trace. I'm sure you'll get them next time...

Night 3 begins now. You have around 23 hours from this post to submit your actions.
 
So few mechanical things

Celever should be 100 percent doccing jalmont and Shane watching, they should not be flaking ever - if one of them does, heavily consider voting today there is no other target worth saving in the game in my opinion as essentially every else dying reduces a conflict somewhere (whether that by over supply of protection or info roles)

if they flake, huge red flag, do not flake this guys
 
Next up, Shane should already be empowered by laurel, the reason why we have this on watch, is because watch is actually a bit stronger than doctor in my opinion, only Celever should appear on the watch besides Shane himself, if mafia has a way to overcome the doctor then they can kill jalmont, but an empowered watch basically makes it near impossible for mafia to get the kill off without being red checked

under no circumstances should a town member appear on jalmont besides Celever or Shane for this reason, worst case scenario you will die for interfering, best case scenario you provide some sort of cover for mafia

essentially the only mechanic I know of that would allow mafia to kill jalmont tonight with our plan, is if they somehow both have strongman and ninja modifier on the one shot, which is extremely improbable, and not something we should worry about

the likes of roleblocks, safeguards etc aren’t such a big deal because the empowered watch we have still can see the killer
 
Next up I have new thoughts on the mafia protection with the revelation of jalmont in fact being a dayvig instead of night vig

we had concern over the doctor, genisu protection, plus saber all being too much

i suspected during d3 that these protects aren’t all town, if mafia has protection (likely) then town probably has a vig because otherwise it’s mostly useless, which is why I held out hope on jalmont vig a bit

well the realisation that jalmont is a dayvig kind of flips this a bit, all but one of the protection roles don’t stop jalmont vig, since it’s a dayvig and they are all night actions - this means that laurel is the only protection that on mafia, would stop the town kill, it’s the only role that mafia sides at all

now could this be a red herring? Absolutely, but I do believe it is a bit look for laurel (aware I’m a bit tunnelled)

it is also possible Celever is just not doctor of course, again not saying I believe this but just sharing possible worlds in the free time - doctor is a very easy claim, and a very easy fake claim for Charlie to give a mafia member, in a game where the town vig doesn’t shoot at night, mafia can bounce the “doc” around and never need to worry about stopping a kill as obviously they just shoot elsewhere (plus they have the strongman, which I’m assuming is somewhat limited)
 
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