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Pokemon Sun and Moon Demo Datamine + Full Game Leaks Collection (Read the OP)

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Kietharr said:
Incineroar is also fast. 91/100/80/89/58/116 is the spread I saw. Primerina looks fucking awful though, 66/63/110/110/110/74. It's like they wanted to make a bulky water that wasn't bulky or something.
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If anything, I'd think Primarina is the best one imo, especially with a reliable recovery move. 110 defenses + 110 SpA is pretty darn good.

Still disappointed GF screwed us over with a slow Grass/Ghost. Oh well, hoping to replace that with that Grass/Fairy mushroom (is anyone else excited for it?) and Palossand can fill in my Ghost type slot. Lowkey hoping it has like Storm Drain as its HA (hello Keldeo counter).

Also why is School form Wishiwashi so slow LOL
 
"- shitload of pokemon got boosts"
Thanks for being very clear and specific, Anon.

Either way, I don't beleive on the Vanilluxe/Gigalith/Gengar rumor that much. Although they did basically the same thing giving Chandelure a debuff in Ability from gen 5 to gen 6. As for vanilluxe... No one will care about it either way, screw hail.


jackgraves said:
Yeah, also:
Olivia nosepass/boldore/lycanroc
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Well... At the least now we can ask someone else about Sand Stream? Idk if it's the same leaker, and it may have other abilities but if anything we might confirm this or just leave it as another open question
 
Decidueye Z-move:

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Kinda disappointed by the big stat distribution change from Trumbeak to Toucannon (though I like the name, and it kind of makes sense to become much slower with the body frame change).

Also, assuming perfect IVs and no EVs, School Wishiwashi's Attack is between ~145 (Beneficial) and ~185 (Hindering nature). ~110-~152 with full EVs.

Wow.
 
Kietharr said:
Incineroar is also fast. 91/100/80/89/58/116 is the spread I saw. Primerina looks fucking awful though, 66/63/110/110/110/74. It's like they wanted to make a bulky water that wasn't bulky or something.
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Those stats dont even seem that bad...Rotom Wash has less hp and less in each defense and we dont question its ability to take hits.
 
Story Spoilers:

you get zygarde cube VERY early, at start of second island, zgarde cells are collectable as you play through the game.

>>29724950
dont know its not in my pokedex yet, not even as seen. I know its a pokemon because Lusamine says ultra beasts are pokemon from another dimension.

Nelson Tangela said:
That Z-Move has 10 PP!?
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nope, Shadow Shackle does, and it serves as the base move.
 
I'm a little surprised about Decidueye's Special Attack stat. I thought it was going to be physical-oriented, not mixed. That said, the low Speed and low-ish Physical Defense worry me about how it's going to do against Dark-based critters (ESPECIALLY Weavile). Something tells me it's not going to displace Chesnaught as my favorite Grass starter (and let the record show that I hope it gains Drain Punch as an egg move...).

Just to be sure, do you think Decidueye's stat spread would be good with ANY type formation? (e.g. Steel/Fairy, which I think is the game's best defensive typing)
 
HauntedPumpkin said:
This is so tragic omg lol. They better give him a decent (and by decent I mean broken) HA, otherwise we will have yet another NU/PU Ghost/Grass in our hands and that's just sad to say the least.

I guess they didn't learn from Emboar's stats spread.
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And thats 545 BST so the real stats are actually LOWER than that
 
Alli M said:
Is it? Doesn't that make it much more tedious getting a Pokémon to level 100? I get that the first 20-40 levels become easier, but the late part was a real hassle in BW/2.
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i believe with realtively equivalent levels, it doesn't start slowing down until you're like...the 70s?

But BW2 also had audinos and the post game tower/tree for high level grinding...something tells me neither of those will be here.
 
Apparently there's a room where you can convert the Zygarde cores you collected into the 10/50 form, but Lurantis hasn't done that yet
 
More Spoilers!

yes during the grass trial you collect a tiny mushroom, and then a "big mushroom" attacks you. its called shiinotic, type is grass/fairy

>>29725090 9in regard to UB-01)
I did fight it but its name was censored and it didnt go in my dex seen list.

>>29725097
I saw colress yes, he was on a route, mentioned being a scientist with theme of "bringing out pokemon potentials"

>>29725062
havent seen it.

>>29725069
 
There's other things though like the auto-leveling box dreamworld-equivalent that might make up for it. Nintendo's official metas scale to 50 though so they might not really care if there's an easy way to grind to 100.
 
Alli M said:
Is it? Doesn't that make it much more tedious getting a Pokémon to level 100? I get that the first 20-40 levels become easier, but the late part was a real hassle in BW/2.
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Leveling up to 100 was never very fast.

The first thing that pops up on my head is Gen II and having to grind among Level ~45 Pokemon at most.

And, to be honest, leveling up to 100 is generally unnecessary. At best, you are doing it once to get moves that you will then pass to a baby... or you are tinkering with genderless Pokemon.
 
Siggu said:
Leveling up to 100 was never very fast.

The first thing that pops up on my head is Gen II and having to grind among Level ~45 Pokemon at most.

And, to be honest, leveling up to 100 is generally unnecessary. At best, you are doing it once to get moves that you will then pass to a baby... or you are tinkering with genderless Pokemon.
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It will be necessary if you want to implement Bottle Caps, though.
 
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