SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

[Rarycaris]

oooooooh like Psyshock but Defense. nice

Nah, it uses your own defense stat for the calculation instead of your attack stat. Basically, imagine Zamazenta using it.

 

[Worldie]

Also ya guyse are sleeping on the most fancy change of all.


Evolves into Leafeon-0 @ 0 (UseItem) [85]
Evolves into Glaceon-0 @ 0 (UseItem) [849]

Eevees can can actually use stone evos !

(edit: someone made me notice that Vikavolt also now evolves with Thunder stone)

 

[Emroy]

Cinderace is better than Greninja?? More Attack than Gren has special attack, more bulk, high base power and great coverage moves. Wow.

 

[Siggu]

Cinderace is better than Greninja?? More Attack than Gren has special attack, more bulk, high base power and great coverage moves. Wow.

We've yet to see Cinderace's movepool. At worst they are different specializations.

 

[Yung Dramps]

Waiting on Move stats. But Rapid Spin is now 50 Power and Multi-Attack is now 120 Power.

SILVALLY GOT A FUCKING BUFF. OH MY GOD YES YES YES YES THIS IS AMAZING ALREADY. HAVE ANY OTHER OLD MONS GOT BUFFS WE KNOW OF??? IM SO HAPPY FUCKING YES

Anyways, other thoughts on stuff revealed thus far

-King's Shield got nerfed too? Man, Aegislash might actually be suitable for OU!

-Hold on a second...

"Clangorous Soul The user raises all its stats by using some of its HP. "

Clangorous Soul? That sounds like Clangorous Soulblaze. Is this a new signature move for Kommo-o as compensation for losing Clangorous Soulblaze???

-New non-Tapu terrain users? That sounds super fun! And the Grassy Surge user is Rillaboom... GROOKEY GANG SUPREME!!!!!!

-Speaking of starters, hot damn Cinderace sounds strong with a Protean clone. Watch out for the rabbit!

On god, I'm loving the quality of life/competitive changes we've seen so far. This stuff's all extremely cool!

 

[RocketSurgery]

I know everybody is excited for all the new stuff, but I just wanted to note that Spectral Thief's effect remains unchanged: "Spectral Thief--The user hides in the target’s shadow, steals the target’s stat boosts, and then attacks."

After last gen's nerf to Dark Void, I was worried that if Marshadow made it in they would nerf spectral thief to apply the stat boosts after attacking, making it much less effective. Fortunately (from my perspective at least!) that's not the case, and Marshadow will continue to put pressure on set-up sweepers in Ubers.

 

[Worldie]

We've yet to see Cinderace's movepool. At worst they are different specializations.

We know it gets Fire stab, Close Combat and Gunk Shot. That's already enough :P

 

[Your Hopes and Dreams]

Hydreigon is weak to Dragon :/

Whoops, meant Bisharp, not Hydreigon.

1. 874 - Stonjourner (Stage: 2)
2. ======
3. Galar Dex: #369
4. Base Stats: 100.125.135.20.20.70 (BST: 470)
5. EV Yield: 0.0.2.0.0.0
6. Abilities: Power Spot (1) | Power Spot (2) | Power Spot (H)
7. Type: Rock
8. Items: None
9. EXP Group: Slow
10. Egg Group: Mineral
11. Hatch Cycles: 25
12. Height: 02.50 m, Weight: 520.0 kg, Color: Gray

That special defense. Yikes. No singles-oriented ability hurts it as well.

 

[EternalDream]

I wonder if Frosmoth with Ice Scales and Assault Vest would maybe have some hopes of surviving a fire move. Wasn't there a GMax move that set up Aurora Veil or something too? Lapras maybe? I can't recall...

65 Speed is very sad but it might be salvageable if it gets QD and a good moveset.

 

[Emroy]

We've yet to see Cinderace's movepool. At worst they are different specializations.

Signature move, Close Combat, Gunk Shot, Zen Headbutt all confirmed, or did I just imagine that?

 

[Magcargo]

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Technician Hitmontop gets a new toy in what is essentially a 75 Base Power Rapid Spin that boost Speed. Holy moly.

aren't technitop's best moves priority though? I'm not sure how important the speed boost will be.

Also, is Multi-Attack confirmed to be 120 BP? That'd be a fantastic buff to silvally since one of its biggest issues was how weak it was. It could also open up the possibility of it learning other strong moves like Earthquake. Its also stronger than Judgement now, which is kinda funny.

 

[Siggu]

By the way, we can safely assume that Boss Eternatus is going to be banned in BH, right?

Because MOVE ASIDE Huge Power (anything), 255/250/250 defenses are... well... what they are.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Slaking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-2: 370-436 (56.8 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Rennyjesus]

I wonder if Frosmoth with Ice Scales and Assault Vest would maybe have some hopes of surviving a fire move. Wasn't there a GMax move that set up Aurora Veil or something too? Lapras maybe? I can't recall...

65 Speed is very sad but it might be salvageable if it gets QD and a good moveset.

It actually does gets Quiver Dance... at least that what I saw on the leaks thread xD

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

Also ya guyse are sleeping on the most fancy change of all.


Evolves into Leafeon-0 @ 0 (UseItem) [85]
Evolves into Glaceon-0 @ 0 (UseItem) [849]

Eevees can can actually use stone evos !

(edit: someone made me notice that Vikavolt also now evolves with Thunder stone)

85 is Leaf Stone while 849 is Ice Stone. OMG!

 

[Sirya]

By the way, we can safely assume that Boss Eternatus is going to be banned in BH, right?

Because MOVE ASIDE Huge Power Slaking, 255/250/250 defenses are... well... what they are.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Slaking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-2: 370-436 (56.8 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Eternamax form Eternatus isn't usable.

 

[Elkos]

The move that consumes your held berry and raises defence seems interesting. Hopefully it's not Greedunt only.

 

[dodiabla]

Umm...both pokemon being hit with yawn status is a big deal. It forces then to switch, try and set up misty terrain, or suffer sleep. Meanwhile your partner pokemon has free reign to do whatever, and grimmsnarl can just use max snooze on whatever switches in.

True. But there are readily available counters to this. I can just Dynamax my poke with a fairy move and set up a Misty Terrain. I’m sure it’ll see play, I just can’t be sure you’ll want to run it over any other Dynamax or Gigantamax.

• use it on the last turn of dynamax
• you're not being damaged or being set up on yourself lol
• trapping = free switch

Unless you are talking doubles, you really wouldn’t want to switch out your gigmax Pokémon till it runs out of turns.

 

[aaronrules380]

By the way, we can safely assume that Boss Eternatus is going to be banned in BH, right?

Because MOVE ASIDE Huge Power Slaking, 255/250/250 defenses are... well... what they are.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Slaking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eternatus-2: 370-436 (56.8 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

it can't be caught in the games apparently, so I don't think it's worth considering for showdown or any other format

 

[Yung Dramps]

We know it gets Fire stab, Close Combat and Gunk Shot. That's already enough :P

Wait a minute...

Cinderace gets Close Combat. Its HA is a Protean clone. This means that it is technically a Fire starter that gets STAB on Fighting moves...

Game Freak fucking boomed us.

 

[lydian]

Cinderace is better than Greninja?? More Attack than Gren has special attack, more bulk, high base power and great coverage moves. Wow.

no spikes tho

 

[lordkira]

Dragapult is going to be an offensive juggernaut. DD, CB, and mixed are going to be amazing. I'm particularly interested in DD and CB. Clear body still seems like the best nature, overall. 75 defense stats are definitely a major drawback though.

 

[mertyville]

When you realize they literally removed actual moves from the game besides Z-moves... Did they cut abilities too? I assume at least all the ones of the Pokemon that aren't in theh game anymore

 

[Siggu]

So... I see conditions for Toxel to evolve into Toxtricity. Is it gender-based, as assumed?

Also, Toxel is in the Undiscovered Egg Group. Sounds like a gift.

 

[Merritt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193937014485204998

Learnsets.

 

[Blitz]

Full TM/TR List

- [TM00] Mega Punch
- [TM01] Mega Kick
- [TM02] Pay Day
- [TM03] Fire Punch
- [TM04] Ice Punch
- [TM05] Thunder Punch
- [TM06] Fly
- [TM07] Pin Missile
- [TM08] Hyper Beam
- [TM09] Giga Impact
- [TM10] Magical Leaf
- [TM11] Solar Beam
- [TM12] Solar Blade
- [TM13] Fire Spin
- [TM14] Thunder Wave
- [TM15] Dig
- [TM16] Screech
- [TM17] Light Screen
- [TM18] Reflect
- [TM19] Safeguard
- [TM20] Self-Destruct
- [TM21] Rest
- [TM22] Rock Slide
- [TM23] Thief
- [TM24] Snore
- [TM25] Protect
- [TM26] Scary Face
- [TM27] Icy Wind
- [TM28] Giga Drain
- [TM29] Charm
- [TM30] Steel Wing
- [TM31] Attract
- [TM32] Sandstorm
- [TM33] Rain Dance
- [TM34] Sunny Day
- [TM35] Hail
- [TM36] Whirlpool
- [TM37] Beat Up
- [TM38] Will-O-Wisp
- [TM39] Facade
- [TM40] Swift
- [TM41] Helping Hand
- [TM42] Revenge
- [TM43] Brick Break
- [TM44] Imprison
- [TM45] Dive
- [TM46] Weather Ball
- [TM47] Fake Tears
- [TM48] Rock Tomb
- [TM49] Sand Tomb
- [TM50] Bullet Seed
- [TM51] Icicle Spear
- [TM52] Bounce
- [TM53] Mud Shot
- [TM54] Rock Blast
- [TM55] Brine
- [TM56] U-turn
- [TM57] Payback
- [TM58] Assurance
- [TM59] Fling
- [TM60] Power Swap
- [TM61] Guard Swap
- [TM62] Speed Swap
- [TM63] Drain Punch
- [TM64] Avalanche
- [TM65] Shadow Claw
- [TM66] Thunder Fang
- [TM67] Ice Fang
- [TM68] Fire Fang
- [TM69] Psycho Cut
- [TM70] Trick Room
- [TM71] Wonder Room
- [TM72] Magic Room
- [TM73] Cross Poison
- [TM74] Venoshock
- [TM75] Low Sweep
- [TM76] Round
- [TM77] Hex
- [TM78] Acrobatics
- [TM79] Retaliate
- [TM80] Volt Switch
- [TM81] Bulldoze
- [TM82] Electroweb
- [TM83] Razor Shell
- [TM84] Tail Slap
- [TM85] Snarl
- [TM86] Phantom Force
- [TM87] Draining Kiss
- [TM88] Grassy Terrain
- [TM89] Misty Terrain
- [TM90] Electric Terrain
- [TM91] Psychic Terrain
- [TM92] Mystical Fire
- [TM93] Eerie Impulse
- [TM94] False Swipe
- [TM95] Air Slash
- [TM96] Smart Strike
- [TM97] Brutal Swing
- [TM98] Stomping Tantrum
- [TM99] Breaking Swipe
TRs:
- [TM00] Swords Dance
- [TM01] Body Slam
- [TM02] Flamethrower
- [TM03] Hydro Pump
- [TM04] Surf
- [TM05] Ice Beam
- [TM06] Blizzard
- [TM07] Low Kick
- [TM08] Thunderbolt
- [TM09] Thunder
- [TM10] Earthquake
- [TM11] Psychic
- [TM12] Agility
- [TM13] Focus Energy
- [TM14] Metronome
- [TM15] Fire Blast
- [TM16] Waterfall
- [TM17] Amnesia
- [TM18] Leech Life
- [TM19] Tri Attack
- [TM20] Substitute
- [TM21] Reversal
- [TM22] Sludge Bomb
- [TM23] Spikes
- [TM24] Outrage
- [TM25] Psyshock
- [TM26] Endure
- [TM27] Sleep Talk
- [TM28] Megahorn
- [TM29] Baton Pass
- [TM30] Encore
- [TM31] Iron Tail
- [TM32] Crunch
- [TM33] Shadow Ball
- [TM34] Future Sight
- [TM35] Uproar
- [TM36] Heat Wave
- [TM37] Taunt
- [TM38] Trick
- [TM39] Superpower
- [TM40] Skill Swap
- [TM41] Blaze Kick
- [TM42] Hyper Voice
- [TM43] Overheat
- [TM44] Cosmic Power
- [TM45] Muddy Water
- [TM46] Iron Defense
- [TM47] Dragon Claw
- [TM48] Bulk Up
- [TM49] Calm Mind
- [TM50] Leaf Blade
- [TM51] Dragon Dance
- [TM52] Gyro Ball
- [TM53] Close Combat
- [TM54] Toxic Spikes
- [TM55] Flare Blitz
- [TM56] Aura Sphere
- [TM57] Poison Jab
- [TM58] Dark Pulse
- [TM59] Seed Bomb
- [TM60] X-Scissor
- [TM61] Bug Buzz
- [TM62] Dragon Pulse
- [TM63] Power Gem
- [TM64] Focus Blast
- [TM65] Energy Ball
- [TM66] Brave Bird
- [TM67] Earth Power
- [TM68] Nasty Plot
- [TM69] Zen Headbutt
- [TM70] Flash Cannon
- [TM71] Leaf Storm
- [TM72] Power Whip
- [TM73] Gunk Shot
- [TM74] Iron Head
- [TM75] Stone Edge
- [TM76] Stealth Rock
- [TM77] Grass Knot
- [TM78] Sludge Wave
- [TM79] Heavy Slam
- [TM80] Electro Ball
- [TM81] Foul Play
- [TM82] Stored Power
- [TM83] Ally Switch
- [TM84] Scald
- [TM85] Work Up
- [TM86] Wild Charge
- [TM87] Drill Run
- [TM88] Heat Crash
- [TM89] Hurricane
- [TM90] Play Rough
- [TM91] Venom Drench
- [TM92] Dazzling Gleam
- [TM93] Darkest Lariat
- [TM94] High Horsepower
- [TM95] Throat Chop
- [TM96] Pollen Puff
- [TM97] Psychic Fangs
- [TM98] Liquidation
- [TM99] Body Press