I’m looking forward to also possibly doing a Mono-Bug run myself. Frosmoth, Orbeetle, Centiskorch, G-max Butterfree, an anti-stealth rock set of heels, Galvantula for sticky web still, and more.
I also want to formally extend this discussion to how Smogon tier leaders will proceed with Dynamax and Gigantimax in Generation 8. Dyna and Giga present the same problems Z-moves created by disrupting our traditional notions of checks and balances. From what we know so far, the secondary effects of Dynamax make a wide range of Pokemon broken (most notably DynaFight giving +1 Atk after every use). The accessibility of these effects across all Pokemon creates a scenario where Pokemon cannot be necessarily banned on an individual basis.
And Niovern.
I think it depends on how they're handled in-game. Remember Wonder Launcher, Battle Royale, and Totem battles? Never had any Smogon support. If Dynamax is just a thing that happens only in specific locations it might just be passed off as a gimmick and not used in real matches. I find it hard to imagine your Pokemon Dynamaxing in someone's house or some cave or something so hopefully it won't be a part of the meta. If we have to deal with Dexit the least we could do it hope to get a good comp metagame out of it.
That's not a buff to "Ice" though. It's nice that more Ice types have more tricks up their sleeve, but the typing is still as flawed as ever unless it receives a new resistance or something.
The PvP arena is a large Dynamax area. Smogon is probably going to support it if it's available in all PvP in-game matches. It's seemingly not as oppressive and unpredictable as Z-Moves so I don't see it getting much friction after we all get our hands on the game and try it for ourselves.
Well, there's still Sableye. But of course, with Bisharp and co running wild, the neutrality won't matter much. But they have Mimikyu to threaten any dark Pkm. It's going to be pretty interesting with Disguise to set up Swords Dance and then, maybe dynamaxing, to blow any threat from the field. Wonder how Mimikyu generally fares in the hypothetical meta ou.
I will be amazed if they advertise something like Dynamax, put all this effort into making loads of new things for it, make a postgame all about hunting down things that can use it for specific purposes, and then just not allow it in anything except Elite Four rematches. It's the gen's main gimmick -- it'll almost certainly be allowed.
Ice may be flawed defensively, but it's one of the best offensive types in the game. The Ice type doesn't need defensive buffs. It needs Game Freak to make more fast and strong Ice types, like Weavile and Mamoswine, as well as the new Frosmoth, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mr. Rime (jury's still out on those last two).
Somehow I don't think a Mega evolution that allows you to hold an item followed by three turns of Z moves, some of which give free stat boosts, which can be activated at any point of time on literally any Pokemon in the game is going to be "less oppressive and unpredictable".
Dynamax also achieves what z moves did and more. You get more bulk AND heatran will smash water types with dynamax solar beams.
Will megas and z-moves return for SwSh?
No, they're not present in the game.
Maybe, they were refering to Nat dex OU
Max moves are significantly less powerful than Z-moves in terms of BP, and Mega Evolution boosts stats other than HP whereas most (all?) Dynamax forms *only* boost HP and are consequently much more defensively inclined. It's true that they can snowball over time, but having that time to react means you can do things like Dynamax your own Pokemon to double its HP. (If the power boost comes from a terrain effect, you can also overwrite their terrain with your own Max moves, and the fact that Dynamax forms are so bulky means you will probably be able to do that.)
Yeah its already confirmed to be in the battle tower so it should be a staple in Nintendo supported multi.
This does raise a lot of questions yeah.
By the experimentation on playable Demos, the powerboost of Max moves was only all the way to 150 for a 120 BP base move, and up to 120 for a 40 BP move.
Those 2 not only overlap a lot, but the problem is that you can't actually really work out number 3: we can't know if a Dinamaxed pokemon can use Z-moves or mega evolve, nor if a Mega can Dinamax.
Or your counter gets mashed because they decided to Dynamax that specific turn and now you're forced to Dynamax your Weavile to desperately take back momentum. It's not like the game asks you if you want to Dynamax when your opponent does, you just get boned. I don't see how any argument could be made that this will promote a healthy metagame.
When was this ever confirmed.
So when you hold a Life Orb they are actually significantly more powerful than a Z move.
Both the playable Nessa Gym demo and playable game some reviewers got to play for 90 minutes confirmed this.
Not sure about Rotom-F, but I don't think Noivern could tank too much Thunderbolts, depending on the user :"D
...would all gimmicks at once even be possible?
I wanna say yes, but I'm not sure how it would exactly be done. It seems like it would be a mess deciding how the mechanics will intertwine (I.E. can you max a Z move user, can you use Dynamax after using a Z move, balancing all three together.) I imagine National OU would be Z move / mega-less because of this, but all three could possibly exist together in another meta.
