Original Pokemon: Cyclizar
New Pokemon: Chlorizar
Type: Poison/Dragon
Abilities: Merciless / Corrosion | Levitate
Stats: 85 / 111 / 65 / 70 / 65 / 105 (501 BST)
Movepool Changes:
- Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Voice, Quick Attack, Rapid Spin, Shed Tail, Ice Spinner, U-Turn, Iron Tail, Shift Gear.
+ *Chlorine Rush*, Poison Jab, Cross Poison, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Acid Spray, Poison Tail, Venoshock, Clear Smog, Poison Fang, Acid Armor, Corrosive Gas.
*Custom Element: Chlorine Rush*
Poison-type. 120 BP. 100% Accuracy. 100% chance to poison. Loses poison-type. (Basically a poison-type Double Shock clone).
The user liberates all the chlorine stored on it's body and rushes towards it's target in a reckless charge, dealing high damage and poisoning it. After using this move, the user will no longer be Poison type.
Flavor: Chlorizar gets it's name from Chlorine, the corrosive element that it produces and stores on it's sacks. The parts on Cyclizar that looks like weels are the sacks on Chlorizar, tho. The green and black colours are changed to light purple and yellowish on the chlorine gas sacks (this is the colour of the gas if i'm not wrong...). Merciless and Corrosion are due to the fact that Chlorine is extremely reactive and toxic for organics. Levitate because it is a gas, unless the temperature is under -34ºC/-29,2ºF so it is a liquid.
Competitive: Chlorizar is a somewhat fast and frail DD sweeper that dislikes priority and steel-types. Dragon/Poison is a nice combo to have overall, specially with hard-hitting moves like Outrage and Chlorine Rush. Levitate should be its main ability, as it helps dealing with the grounds of the meta. Merciless and Corrosion have their niche, specially against Poison Heal Throg, or when using moves like Poison Fang and Chlorine Rush, that have a high/guaranteed chance of poisoning targets. Cons: using Levitate means it is a poison-type that can't remove Toxic Spikes, and Overheat/Fire Fang are the only reliable way to hit steel-types "hard". Losing the poison-type can be tricky: good to avoid hard-hitting psychic-types, but it comes with the loss of plenty resistances, including fairies and an immunity to being poisoned. So yeah, it is a poison type that can be poisoned without Corrosion.
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Original Pokemon: Vespiquen
New Pokemon: Venusquen
Type: Psychic/Fairy
Abilities: Serene Grace | Astral Mirror
Custom Element: Astral Mirror
This pokemon's Astral Mirror emanates a cosmic aura that makes the field undergo intense gravity while it is active. Intense gravity wears off if this pokemon faints or switches out.
Stats: 62/60/65/110/65/112 (474 BST)
Movepool Changes: Movepool Reworked
Uses Tapu Lele's (NatDex) movepool as base.
+ Cosmic Power, Misty Terrain, Misty Explosion, Zen Headbutt, Rollout, Flash Cannon,
- Nature's Madness, Nature Power, Withdraw, Charge Beam, Toxic.
Flavor: A female deity that represents Venus. Instead of the ruby-like gem, has a Mirror of Venus symbol. On her face, eyes are Human-like, and she has a crown that looks like Cosmog ears rounding Venus symbol. The usual bee-hive on it's body is replaced by the planet Venus itself. She doesn't fly (does not have wings) or floats, spins the planet-like ball to walk on land. Main colors: Golden/Pink.
Pre-evo trivia: Cosmee > Psychic > Serene Grace. Only females evolve. Females have Mirror of Venus symbol. Looks like a small moon/planet.
Role: Special attacker with two abilities that helps it in really different ways. Serene Grace here is to abuse the stat lowering moves, and not for ParaFlinch shenanigans. Stab Moonblast and Shadow Ball have 60 and 40 percent chance of lowering SpA and SpD, for example. It can try to distribute Paralysis with 70% accuracy non-stab Thunder, but in a tier full of grounds, should she try this? On the other hand, there is permanent Gravity while she is active with Astral Mirror, raising it's Focus Blast (and Thunder) accuracy to 117%, providing crucial coverage. It also helps flying/levitating pokemon switching in to be affected by hazards like webs, spikes, etc, helping with cheap damage.
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Original Pokemon: Octillery
New Pokemon: Octchinery
Type: Steel/Dark
Abilities: Guts / Iron Barbs | Unaware
Stats: 103/92/115/45/90/35 (480 BST)
Movepool Changes: Movepool reworked
Uses Bisharp's Movepool (NatDex) as base
+ Topsy-Turvy, Curse, Parting Shot, Spikes, Wrap, Lock-On, Body Press.
- Air Slash, Swords Dance, X-Scissor, Sucker Punch.
Flavor: Evil octopus machine with iron spikes all over the head.
Pre-evo trivia : Remodroid > Steel/Dark > Intimidate / Iron Barbs | Unaware. Evil droid fish that somehow evolves into an octopus.
Role: Want to distribute cheap damage while tanking some resisted hits and threteaning with Knock Off and/or Pursuit? Show them your Iron Barbs. Want to avoid dangerous sweepers that can set up to infinity? Show them you're unaware of this. The movepool is enough for it to do what it is supposed to do. Sucker Punch was removed for balance questions, mainly Curse + Rest sets. It is also not totally passive with Body Press and the already mentioned Knock Off/Pursuit. Guts has it's uses, like avoiding attack drops from burns or even beeing a bulky attacker for TR teams, but in general Unaware and Iron Barbs are the main abilities here.
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This seems very annoying. Coil sets are still very strong due to its excellent bulk and with the signature ability turning every contact move into a physical Scald… Not a fan. Would remove that ability entirely for something else and lower the Special Defense around 15 points (put into speed since it doesn’t have that trapping move anymore) and it’s probably OK.
The sig is pretty interesting, seems really good at dealing with pivot spam, not entirely sure how I feel about it. It’s alright overall.
This is pretty cool, seems like a nice defensive Poison pivot that isn’t passive either. I like this.
Interesting take on Wugtrio here. I think this works and would end up being pretty good, I like the addition of a suicide lead set as well. Pretty neat.
This take on Mycelium Might is very cool in my opinion, should remedy its passivity problems and increase its performance defensively, although I would prefer if this only activated on status moves that target a Pokemon (Taunt, Spore, etc.), as seed + Spikes seems very annoying.
This is alright. I would’ve preferred if you removed all Fire Coverage and kept its special attack as it was originally, but this should be balanced too I think.
I like it. Scarf and CM sets should be very good on this and balanced too.
This is alright, really just feels like Scolipede but with a better typing. Likely balanced but I’m not a huge fan.
This is quite bulky for Magic Bounce mon, would lower it’s bulk down to something like 55 / 108 / 108 or so. Other than that though, I think I like it. Should(?) be able to beat and set up on our Steel type rockers and Fetagross.
This is very cool, I like it quite a bit. Nasty Plot and Merciless sets both seem like very good options due to this thing’s bulk and it should fit quite well into the meta.
Not a fan of this at all. We already had an ESpeed bot Pokemon and that didn’t turn out very well, so I feel this would likely end up being pretty weak, considering it’s secondary stab is much worse than Furant’s previous secondary STAB. I’d try to rework it entirely around its Bug typing and change the secondary typing to not be Normal, making it stronger overall (Dark or Steel maybe? - give it coverage though)
That ability is way too strong, especially with grass coverage and reliable recovery from this as well, they both seem very overkill even without the ability and would make this extremely difficult to remove in the long run. I’d remove reliable recovery from this (Soft-Boiled, etc.) and Grass coverage; and likely change the ability as well.
Punk Rock is way too much on this, 124 spA is great offensively even if your main STAB is bad, and combined with boosted Torch Song and Overdrive, there is no way to answer this consistently, akin to regular Iron Bundle. I’d remove Punk Rock and Torch Song here at least.
This is alright, not a huge fan but I don’t think this is a bad sub either, just doesn’t really appeal to me personally. Sharpness Bitter Blade is a bit concerning though, but I’m not sure if it’s veto-worthy yet.
Very cool. Dark / Flying and some good utility and bulk should make this quite the defensive pivot, and it’s not passive at all either.
I have liked this sub and will continue to like this sub. It’s good, and should probably still be good here even with all the changes.
Great idea. This is probably slow enough to get away with having all the Torque moves too, although Shift Gear allows it to outspeed the entire metagame unboosted, which is a bit concerning, but probably OK? Seems very similar to Bullibolt currently outside of Shift Gear, however.
Interesting sub. Seems pretty passive outside of Scald and Knock Off, which is alright, but other than that seems like a pretty generic bulky normal-type. It’s alright.
I don’t like this, nor do I think it’d be very good. It’s quite passive and weak to rocks which makes it pretty difficult for it to to make progress considering it’s weaknesses are pretty common in the meta. I’d probably try to use a different mon for more BST so you don’t have to resort to that ability and give it some much needed attack and physical coverage to make it better.
This ability is much better suited on a more defensive mon and I’d likely up the damage the attacker takes to 1/10, so it isn’t as strong as Rough Skin, but not negligible either. Other than that, I think with some more speed and Taunt, this could be a pretty effective HO lead. Or you could rework this to be defensive so it can use it’s ability. Either works.
Not a fan of Drizzle Water Spout or Drizzle in general, and its not even walled by Grass-types either due to Hurricane. Superbloom is also really scary on this too considering Strength Sap. I’d try to rework this without Drizzle so it isn’t as much of an issue.
This essentially is a Steel/Fairy Toxapex (extremely similar bulk) with Teleport and Wish instead of Scald and Knock Off if you’re running Regenerator on it. Not a fan at all, might even end up being too strong (although I’m not certain; it’s quite passive).
Not entirely sure why you lowered the attack, I thought it was fine at 106 attack when you first subbed it. Aside from that, this is pretty cool, although I’d rather give this Gunk Shot than the sig it currently has.
We don’t have Tera here, you don’t need to remove Tera Blast. Either way, I’m not very keen on this sub. Not entirely sure if it’d be broken or too weak in my opinion, but I don’t think there’s really an in between with an ability like that + Strength Sap. I’d personally change the ability and go from there.
Not a huge fan of the sig, but other than that this is pretty nice, although we’ve got a lot of waters already. Stands out from the rest of our Flying-types defensively and should be pretty strong as a defensive Water too.
Not a fan, this might honestly be too strong as well. 135 atk + 150 BP STAB is pretty ridiculous even with a typing as bad as Bug / Poison, and it still keeps V-Create to hit steels too.
I’m a bit worried about this thing’s typing for a Magic Bounce mon, it’s really good. Luckily it’s stats are pretty mediocre, which should make this OK, this is alright in my opinion.
140 attack Sharpness Sacred Sword + DD is scary, and possibly veto-worthy, though I’m not entirely sure of this yet. Seems alright overall as it's held back by its other stats being so mediocre.
This is alright, although I would’ve preferred it were Dark / Poison (with some good coverage) over Dark / Water personally, we’ve got a good amount of Water-types already.
This is alright as well. Would personally make this faster (108 speed at least) to make it more effective as an offensive pivot.
This is a really annoying ability, burning your opponent for clicking a Fire move seems very unfun, I would remove it for something less strong personally. Either way, I don’t think it’d need the ability anyway, as 121 / 133 offenses are superb and its typing and coverage is solid too. Not sure if this will be too much but this is extremely strong and pretty borderline.
This is much too strong. 134 attack 113 speed Libero is far too strong, the attack will need to be lowered to at least 114 if it’s keeping Libero. Would also get rid of ALL electric coverage on this, being able to hit waters so consistently with its movepool feels too overboard.
No. I’m not sure if vetoing something based solely on its flavor is fair, but this really makes me consider that option. Even outside of that, I’m not a fan of this competitively either. Adaptability Pop Bomb and Pick Missile seem like this thing’s only niche and make this pretty one dimensional. I don’t like this.
This is alright. I think we’ve got enough Ground-types like this already, especially with Zarune around, but this mon’s better typing could be justify i’s inclusion in the meta
Not really a fan of having another Ice-type, especially a Snow Warning one.
This is nice. Still has Brave Bird for fighting types that could wall it, which makes it seem quite effective, while likely not too strong.
I don’t think we’d allow a form changing ability like this considering Sunflora doesn’t have any transformation or secondary form normally, so I don’t think this makes much sense. Outside of that, this seems pretty bad. Its poor bulk and low speed will likely mean that it will get OHKO’d before it transforms, and even then, it doesn’t regain any of its health after transforming (health stat doesn’t increase unlike Zygarde) meaning that the bulk it gains is pretty useless.
Not a fan of weather in a micro meta like this, which seems to be its only niche. Not too keen on this one.
143 / 80 / 83 bulk is REALLY good and this isn’t passive at all either. I’d recommend lowering the bulk a bit, possibly down to around 143 / 70 / 73 at least, as that’s still very good bulk but a bit more abusable (put the 20 stat points lost into Attack)
Electric Surge is pretty questionable coming off of 125 special Attack, although this still might be balanced since this can’t really touch Grass-types. It seems alright.
The name on this will need to be changed, it’s a bit too different. Would recommend Scizaw since the name seems to be based off of the seesaw. Competitively, this seems really strong, possibly too strong due to the ability, and it’d likely outclass Bullibolt as soon as it hit the meta. I think the fast pivot route (with a good secondary typing to boot) could help differentiate this from the steels we currently have, and I’d likely change the ability, as giving a guaranteed 120 BP Heavy Slam and Heat Crash seems a bit overboard.
I like this, it seems really effective as a wall with TWave and Recover, but with a typing that’s decently abusable, which should(?) make this balanced.
Very cool, really like this idea as a more bulky Fire-type attacker, seems very strong, but imo not overboard.
Rising Voltage is a bit too much here, as outside of mons immune to Electric moves, there really isn't any consistent switch-ins to it, especially if this is running Specs. Remove Rising Voltage and it's fine.
Fluffy gives a too bit much bulk on a mon with such a good typing, pivoting, and threatening coverage for its switchins. I'd personally remove Fluffy here and replace it with something a bit less strong (if you really want flavor and a good ability, you could go with Cotton Down, a custom, or something similar).
