STAB [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1] Ting-Lu [DONE]

[LBDC]

[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge / Spikes
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot / Foul Play / Whirlwind / Knock Off
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu is an effective defensive support in STABmons, as with Ceaseless Edge or Spikes, it can serve as a very bulky entry hazard setter. In addition, thanks to its ability, its well-distributed stats, and Shore Up, it is able to check many attackers such as Iron Moth, Ceruledge, and Garganacl. Spikes should be used if reliability and lack of PP are a concern, especially on stall teams. Precipice Blades maximizes damage against Toxapex and other Ground-weak Pokemon like Iron Hands; however, Earthquake is a fine option if accuracy is a concern. There are multiple options for the last moveslot: Parting Shot lets Ting-Lu safely bring in offensive teammates via a slow pivot, Foul Play gives it a better matchup against setup sweepers like Salamence, Whirlwind phazes setup sweepers that Ting-Lu can't handle like non-Taunt Annihilape, and Knock Off can remove items like Heavy-Duty Boots from pivots like Tyranitar. Covert Cloak prevents Ting-Lu from being poisoned from Mortal Spin users like Toxapex, while Leftovers gives to it more passive recovery. Both Tera Ghost and Tera Poison allow Ting-Lu to surprise Fighting-types like Iron Hands; Tera Poison grants it an immunity to Toxic and lets it resist Grass-type attacks, while Tera Ghost allows it to spinblock. Alternatively, Tera Fairy and Tera Water provide great resistances to Roaring Moon and Palafin, respectively. Ting-Lu fits in a variety of teams, ranging from bulky offense to stall. Offensive teammates such as Iron Valiant, Palafin, and Iron Hands appreciate that Ting-Lu can both set Spikes and act as a slow pivot with Parting Shot. These three Pokemon also beat Great Tusk, one of Ting-Lu's biggest checks, as it is able to beat it with Fighting-type moves and remove its entry hazards with Rapid Spin. Defensive Pokemon like Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Dondozo are able to check Pokemon that Ting-Lu can't, which include Azumarill, Rotom-W, and Mimikyu. Ting-Lu struggles to make progress with entry hazards up, so entry hazard removal from the likes of Great Tusk, Toxapex, Rotom-W, and Corviknight is recommended.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LBDC, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Giagantic, 220859], [pannu, 517892]]
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[Giagantic]

LBDC, post: 9539969, member: 464398

[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

[SET COMMENTS]

Ting-Lu is an effective defensive support in STABmons, as with Ceaseless Edge, it can serve as a very bulky entry hazards setter. In addition, thanks to its ability, well distributed stats, and access to a healing move in Shore Up, it is able to check many attackers such as Roaring Moon, Cinderace, and Gholdengo. (Roaring Moon is very likely to 2hko with CB Tera Dragon Glaive Rush, and is a 2hko roll if un-tera'd but under sun also it should be noted that Gholdengo is an iffy situation if you are running Lefties due to Infernal Parade (burn) and it's setup capabilities and that if a Cinderace setups SD it is likely to 1hko with HJK, without Tera many of these scenarios are less then ideal (without lefties Roaring Moon has a fairly easy time breaking Covert Cloak, whereas without Gholdengo is capable of burning and setting up on non-covert cloak Ting-Lu) Ting-Lu also bring in some slow pivoting capabilites with Parting Shot. Precipice Blades is chosen to maximize damage against Toxapex and other Ground-weak Pokemon like Iron Hands; Earthquake is however a fine option if accuracy is a concern. Covert Cloak among other things prevents Ting-Lu from being poisoned from Mortal Spin users, namely Toxapex and Amoonguss but Leftovers is also a viable option for more passive recovery. Both Poison-type and Ghost-type Tera allows Ting-Lu to take by surprise Fighting-type like Iron Hands by suddenly resisting their hits; Poison-type Tera also allows it to be immune to Toxic and resists Grass-type attacks, while Tera Ghost allows it to spinblock, in addition Tera Fairy-type and Water-type provide great resistances to Roaring Moon and Palafin respectively. (Fairy and Water type Tera lets Ting-Lu handle threats like Roaring Moon and Weavile, Azumarill on first turn and Palafin more confidently) Ting-Lu fits in a variety of teams, ranging from bulky offense to stall, as such, numerous Pokemon can enjoy Ting-Lu to some degree. Offensive teammates such as Iron Valiant, Palafin, and Iron Hands appreciates that Ting-Lu can both setup Spikes with Ceaseless Edge and act as a slow pivot by bringing them onto the field with Parting Shot. (Might I suggest slashing in a combination of Foul Play and/or Knock Off in place of Parting Shot, the former let's it punish setup sweepers and the latter let's it ensure that spike damage is accrued as a result of knock off ridding things of HBD, Lefties and so forth) Defensive Pokemon like Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Dondozo are able to check Pokemon than Ting-Lu can't, which include Azumarill, Rotom-W, and Mimikyu. Make sure to include in your team a way to remove entry hazards, as they can quickly disrupt Ting-Lu operational capabilities; Defog users like Rotom-W and Corviknight are an option and so are Rapid Spin and Mortal Spin users such as Great Tusk and Toxapex.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LBDC, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Giagantic, 220859], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

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[pannu]

[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge Spikes
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot / Whirlwind / Foul Play / Knock Off
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

Defensive mons are about consistency, I believe that running ceaseless is just begging "oh I want to not set up a spike when itd be crucial to get one up", same with Pblades. whirlwind is fantastic for getting past ting-lus passivity issue, as otherwise a lot of mons would use it as set up fodder (Volc, valiant, and ape come to mind)

Everything else is good; reflect these movepool changes in the actual write up, and add an extra paragraph abt great tusk as its not only its biggest competition as a bulky ground, but also threatens it out with cc / thunkick, and can spin away its hazards

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[LBDC]

done, tagging GP Team
(yes, this analyse is massive by OM standards; however Ting-Lu is a well customizable mon so options had to be explained. Hopefully this is fine.)

 

[Tea Guzzler]

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[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge / Spikes
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot / Foul Play / Whirlwind / Knock Off
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

[SET COMMENTS] (removed space)
Ting-Lu is an effective defensive support in STABmons, as with Ceaseless Edge or Spikes, it can serve as a very bulky entry hazards setter. this might be better the other way around, such as "...STABmons as it can serve as a very bulky entry hazard setter with Ceaseless Edge or Spikes" but both work, up to you In addition, thanks to its ability, well distributed stats, and access to a healing move in Shore Up, it is able to check many attackers such as Iron Moth, Ceruledge, and Garganacl. Spikes should be used if reliability and lack of PP are a concern, especially on stalls teams. Precipice Blades is chosen to maximizes damage against Toxapex and other Ground-weak Pokemon like Iron Hands; Earthquake is however a fine option if accuracy is a concern. There multiple options for the last moveslot: with Parting Shot, Ting-Lu can also bring in some slow pivoting capabilites, maybe change this to "Parting Shot lets Ting-Lu safely bring in offensive teammates via slow pivoting", as the current setup doesn't make complete sense Foul Play gives it a better match-up (remove hyphen) against set-up sweepers like Salamence, Whirlwind phazes away setup sweepers that Ting-Lu can't handle like non-Taunt Annihilape, and Knock Off can remove items like Heavy-Duty Boots from pivots like Tyranitar. Covert Cloak prevents Ting-Lu from being poisoned from Mortal Spin users like Toxapex, minor thing but do mortal users run toxic or tspikes? if so then this isn't technically correct and would need to be "...being poisoned by Mortal Spin from users like Toxapex" but i don't play STAB so up to you but Leftovers gives to it more passive recovery. Both Poison-type and Ghost-type Tera allows Ting-Lu to take by surprise Tera Ghost and Tera Poison allow Ting-Lu to surprise Fighting-types like Iron Hands; Poison-type Tera Poison also allows it to be immune grants immunity to Toxic and resists Grass-type attacks, while Tera Ghost allows it to spinblock; i would consider splitting the sentence here, and just going "...spinblock. Tera Fairy and Tera Water..." to make it easier to follow in addition Tera Fairy-type and Tera Water-type provide great resistances to Roaring Moon and Palafin if these simply do not run coverage then you can ignore this, but mentioning "Roaring Moon and Palafin's STAB attacks" might be good? up to you respectively. Ting-Lu fits in a variety of teams, ranging from bulky offense to stall; as such, numerous Pokemon can enjoy Ting-Lu to some degree. not entirely sure this whole "numerous pokemon" bit is necessary as it doesn't add a whole lot of substance. up to you Offensive teammates such as Iron Valiant, Palafin, and Iron Hands appreciates that Ting-Lu can both setup Spikes with Ceaseless Edge maybe get rid of "with Ceaseless Edge" here as Spikes is a listed set option and act as a slow pivot by bringing them onto the field with Parting Shot. These three Pokemon also beat Great Tusk, one of Ting-Lu's biggest checks, as it is able to beat it with Fighting-type moves as well spin away its entry hazards and remove its entry hazards with Rapid Spin. Defensive Pokemon like Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Dondozo are able to check Pokemon thant Ting-Lu can't, which include Azumarill, Rotom-W, and Mimikyu. Make sure to include in your team a way to remove entry hazards, as they can quickly disrupt Ting-Lu operational capabilities; Defog users like Rotom-W and Corviknight are an option and so are Rapid Spin and Mortal Spin users such as Great Tusk and Toxapex. this last sentence has a bit of an awkward structure and i'd consider rewording it. something like "Ting-Lu struggles to make progress with entry hazards up, so Defog users like Rotom-W and Corviknight and Mortal Spin users like Toxapex are recommended". you also have tusk as a mortal spin user which is wrong, if you want to include a rapid spin user there then probably go with "... entry hazards up, so teammates that can remove them like Rotom-W, Corviknight, Toxapex, and Great Tusk are appreciated." or something similar

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LBDC, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Giagantic, 220859], [pannu, 517892]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

 

[LBDC]

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Implemented :)

 

[zoe]

ik i got sniped but just doing this so i can get feedback from my tutor

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(set might be a bit wrong unless there was some discussion I'm not aware of)
[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge / Spikes
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot / Foul Play / Whirlwind / Knock Off
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

[SET COMMENTS]

Ting-Lu is an effective defensive support in STABmons, as with Ceaseless Edge or Spikes, it can serve as a very bulky entry hazards setter. In addition, thanks to its ability, well distributed stats, and access to a healing move in Shore Up, it is able to check many attackers such as Iron Moth, Ceruledge, and Garganacl. Spikes should be used if reliability and lack of PP are a concern, especially on stalls stall teams. Precipice Blades is chosen to maximize damage against Toxapex and other Ground-weak Pokemon like Iron Hands; however, (AC) Earthquake is however a fine option if accuracy is a concern. There are multiple options for the last slot: with Parting Shot, Ting-Lu can also bring in some slow pivoting capabilites capabilities, Foul Play give gives it a better match-up matchup against set-up setup sweepers like Salamence, Whirlwind phaze away phazes setup sweepers that Ting-Lu can't handle like non-Taunt Annihilape, Knock Off can remove Heavy-Duty Boots from pivots like Tyranitar. Covert Cloak prevents Ting-Lu from being poisoned from Mortal Spin users like Toxapex, but and Leftovers gives to it more passive recovery. Both Tera Poison-type and Tera Ghost-type Tera allows Ting-Lu to take by surprise Fighting-type Fighting-types like Iron Hands by surprise; Tera Poison-type Tera also allows it to be immune to Toxic and resists resist Grass-type attacks, while Tera Ghost allows it to spinblock; in addition, (AC) Tera Fairy-type and Tera Water-type provide great resistances to Roaring Moon and Palafin, (AC) respectively. Ting-Lu fits in a variety of teams, ranging from bulky offense to stall; as such, numerous Pokemon can enjoy Ting-Lu to some degree. Offensive teammates such as Iron Valiant, Palafin, and Iron Hands appreciates appreciate that Ting-Lu can both setup Spikes with Ceaseless Edge (does Ceaseless Edge need to be specified here since it can run spikes on its own?) and act as a slow pivot by bringing them onto the field with Parting Shot. These three Pokemon also beat Great Tusk, one of Ting-Lu biggest checks, as it is able to beat it with Fighting-type moves as well spin away its entry hazards. Defensive Pokemon like Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Dondozo are able to check Pokemon than Ting-Lu can't, which include Azumarill, Rotom-W, and Mimikyu. Make sure to include in your team a way to remove entry hazards, as they can quickly disrupt Ting-Lu operational capabilities; Defog users like Rotom-W and Corviknight are an option and so are Rapid Spin and Mortal Spin users such as Great Tusk and Toxapex.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LBDC, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Giagantic, 220859], [pannu, 517892]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

 

[deetah]

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GP 1/1

Ting-Lu

[SET]
name: Defensive Support
move 1: Ceaseless Edge / Spikes
move 2: Precipice Blades / Earthquake
move 3: Shore Up
move 4: Parting Shot / Foul Play / Whirlwind / Knock Off
item: Covert Cloak / Leftovers
ability: Vessel of Ruin
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe
tera type: Poison / Ghost / Fairy / Water

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu is an effective defensive support in STABmons, as with Ceaseless Edge or Spikes, it can serve as a very bulky entry hazard setter. In addition, thanks to its ability, its well-(AH)distributed stats, and Shore Up, it is able to check many attackers such as Iron Moth, Ceruledge, and Garganacl. Spikes should be used if reliability and lack of PP are a concern, especially on stall teams. Precipice Blades maximizes damage against Toxapex and other Ground-weak Pokemon like Iron Hands; however, Earthquake is however a fine option if accuracy is a concern. There are multiple options for the last moveslot: Parting Shot lets Ting-Lu safely bring in offensive teammates via a slow pivoting, Foul Play gives it a better match up matchup against set-up setup sweepers like Salamence, Whirlwind phazes away setup sweepers that Ting-Lu can't handle like non-Taunt Annihilape, and Knock Off can remove items like Heavy-Duty Boots from pivots like Tyranitar. Covert Cloak prevents Ting-Lu from being poisoned from Mortal Spin users like Toxapex, but while Leftovers gives to it more passive recovery. Both Tera Ghost and Tera Poison allow Ting-Lu to surprise Fighting-types like Iron Hands; Tera Poison grants it an immunity to Toxic and resists lets it resist Grass-type attacks, while Tera Ghost allows it to spinblock. In addition Alternatively, Tera Fairy and Tera Water provide great resistances to Roaring Moon and Palafin, (AC) respectively. Ting-Lu fits in a variety of teams, ranging from bulky offense to stall; as such, numerous Pokemon can enjoy Ting-Lu to some degree. Offensive teammates such as Iron Valiant, Palafin, and Iron Hands appreciate that Ting-Lu can both set Spikes and act as a slow pivot with Parting Shot. These three Pokemon also beat Great Tusk, one of Ting-Lu's biggest checks, as it is able to beat it with Fighting-type moves and remove its entry hazards with Rapid Spin. Defensive Pokemon like Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Dondozo are able to check Pokemon that Ting-Lu can't, which include Azumarill, Rotom-W, and Mimikyu. Ting-Lu struggles to make progress with entry hazards up, so Defog users like entry hazard removal from the likes of Great Tusk, Toxapex, Rotom-W, (AC) and Corviknight are is recommended. Rapid Spin and Mortal Spin users can also do it, such as respectively Great Tusk and Toxapex.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[LBDC, 464398]]
- Quality checked by: [[Giagantic, 220859], [pannu, 517892]]
- Grammar checked by: [[deetah, 297659]]

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[Theia]

Uploaded, thank you!

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/ting-lu/stabmons/