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- Thread starter DuoM2
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It's a good thing that Conversion was pointed out, otherwise I would have continued thinking it was trash.
Huntibou, Hyperoach, Elenium
I also hope we get more fire-types soon. The only one we have is the Magnet Pull one...
Hyperoach, Huntibou, Elenium
Alright, so Hyperoach won this slate! It will be added to the sheet shortly, and I'm also probably gonna sprite it soon, I have a pretty funny idea for it that those of you on the Discord have seen.
Not a finished design. I'm giving it more legs, making the limbs a bit more jagged for a lack of better terms, and I may change its color scheme.
Now for the new slate...
That's about it. Discussion phase has begun!
Not a finished design. I'm giving it more legs, making the limbs a bit more jagged for a lack of better terms, and I may change its color scheme.
Now for the new slate...
Barracoth
Water/Ice
Shadow Shield/No Second Ability/Thick Fat
75/85/146/70/139/85
Viable Moves: Waterfall, Surf, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Fiery Dance, Flamethrower, Soft-Boiled, Poison Jab, Thousand Arrows, First Impression, Plasma Fists, Rock Blast, Volt Switch, Photon Geyser, Fusion Bolt, Zen Headbutt, Roar, Roost, Draco Meteor, Spiky Shield
Other Moves: Twister, Sing, Flatter, Guard Split, Sand Attack, Recycle, Foresight, Sky Drop, Pay Day, Last Resort, Dynamic Punch, Giga Impact, Wide Guard, Pollen Puff, Flash, Low Sweep, Cross Poison, Worry Seed, Screech, Infestation
Water/Ice
Shadow Shield/No Second Ability/Thick Fat
75/85/146/70/139/85
Viable Moves: Waterfall, Surf, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Fiery Dance, Flamethrower, Soft-Boiled, Poison Jab, Thousand Arrows, First Impression, Plasma Fists, Rock Blast, Volt Switch, Photon Geyser, Fusion Bolt, Zen Headbutt, Roar, Roost, Draco Meteor, Spiky Shield
Other Moves: Twister, Sing, Flatter, Guard Split, Sand Attack, Recycle, Foresight, Sky Drop, Pay Day, Last Resort, Dynamic Punch, Giga Impact, Wide Guard, Pollen Puff, Flash, Low Sweep, Cross Poison, Worry Seed, Screech, Infestation
Pengith
Ice/Flying
Heatproof/Synchronoise/Fluffy
67/160/114/57/154/48
Viable Moves: Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Dazzling Gleam, Double-Edge, Acid Spray, Baneful Bunker, Toxic Spikes, Seismic Toss, High Jump Kick, Light Screen, Super Fang, Sticky Web, Spectral Thief, Plasma Fists, Diamond Storm, Seed Bomb, Fire Punch, Recover
Other Moves: Lovely Kiss, Wonder Room, Supersonic, Fling, Water Sport, Power Trip, Bone Club, Cotton Spore, Lucky Chant, Poison Sting, Fell Stinger, Giga Impact, Flash, Sonic Boom, Tackle, Recycle, Water Pledge, Icy Wind, Electro Ball, Brine
Ice/Flying
Heatproof/Synchronoise/Fluffy
67/160/114/57/154/48
Viable Moves: Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Dazzling Gleam, Double-Edge, Acid Spray, Baneful Bunker, Toxic Spikes, Seismic Toss, High Jump Kick, Light Screen, Super Fang, Sticky Web, Spectral Thief, Plasma Fists, Diamond Storm, Seed Bomb, Fire Punch, Recover
Other Moves: Lovely Kiss, Wonder Room, Supersonic, Fling, Water Sport, Power Trip, Bone Club, Cotton Spore, Lucky Chant, Poison Sting, Fell Stinger, Giga Impact, Flash, Sonic Boom, Tackle, Recycle, Water Pledge, Icy Wind, Electro Ball, Brine
Rockodile this thing actually has a really good name
Rock
Quick Feet/No Second Ability/Sticky Hold
143/177/55/63/95/67
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Calm Mind, Icicle Spear, Moonblast, Aqua Jet, Night Shade, Dragon Pulse, Close Combat, First Impression, Psychic Fangs, Trick, Zing Zap, Moonlight, Energy Ball, Searing Shot, Swords Dance, Beak Blast, Crabhammer, Earth Power
Other Moves: Twister, Me First, Last Resort, Fury Cutter, Bide, Fairy Wind, Electro Ball, Water Pledge, Confuse Ray, Swagger, Present, Feather Dance, Conversion, Smack Down, After You, Mega Kick, Electric Terrain, Laser Focus, Hyper Beam, Flame Burst
Rock
Quick Feet/No Second Ability/Sticky Hold
143/177/55/63/95/67
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Calm Mind, Icicle Spear, Moonblast, Aqua Jet, Night Shade, Dragon Pulse, Close Combat, First Impression, Psychic Fangs, Trick, Zing Zap, Moonlight, Energy Ball, Searing Shot, Swords Dance, Beak Blast, Crabhammer, Earth Power
Other Moves: Twister, Me First, Last Resort, Fury Cutter, Bide, Fairy Wind, Electro Ball, Water Pledge, Confuse Ray, Swagger, Present, Feather Dance, Conversion, Smack Down, After You, Mega Kick, Electric Terrain, Laser Focus, Hyper Beam, Flame Burst
Hippopuna
Ghost/Ground
Heavy Metal/No Second Ability/Psychic Surge
125/84/74/149/139/29
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Earthquake, Earth Power, Overheat, Final Gambit, Thousand Arrows, Energy Ball, Rapid Spin, Play Rough, Heat Wave, Lunar Dance, Milk Drink, Nature's Madness, Hex, Shadow Force, Dark Pulse, Sunsteel Strike, Fusion Bolt, Nature Power
Other Moves: Lock-On, Water Sport, Mist, Twister, Sand Tomb, Tail Whip, Power Split, Work Up, Feint, Teleport, Water Gun, Follow Me, High Horsepower, Thunder Shock, Gastro Acid, Slam, After You, Throat Chop, Bubble, Charm
Ghost/Ground
Heavy Metal/No Second Ability/Psychic Surge
125/84/74/149/139/29
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Earthquake, Earth Power, Overheat, Final Gambit, Thousand Arrows, Energy Ball, Rapid Spin, Play Rough, Heat Wave, Lunar Dance, Milk Drink, Nature's Madness, Hex, Shadow Force, Dark Pulse, Sunsteel Strike, Fusion Bolt, Nature Power
Other Moves: Lock-On, Water Sport, Mist, Twister, Sand Tomb, Tail Whip, Power Split, Work Up, Feint, Teleport, Water Gun, Follow Me, High Horsepower, Thunder Shock, Gastro Acid, Slam, After You, Throat Chop, Bubble, Charm
Flamash
Normal/Fire
Rain Dish/No Second Ability/Gluttony
115/75/97/119/146/48
Viable Moves: Strength, Hyper Voice, Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Freeze-Dry, Strength Sap, Fire Fang, Power-Up Punch, Fire Punch, Icicle Spear, Mach Punch, Psychic, King's Shield, Glare, Moonlight, V-Create, Low Kick, Fiery Dance, Shore Up, Drain Punch
Other Moves: Secret Power, Fell Stinger, Bulldoze, Pluck, Crush Claw, Bone Rush, Flame Charge, Dig, Freeze Shock, Trick-or-Treat, Amnesia, Feint Attack, Camoflauge, Lock-On, Glaciate, Headbutt, Hyperspace Hole, Cotton Spore, Gear Up, Mega Punch
Normal/Fire
Rain Dish/No Second Ability/Gluttony
115/75/97/119/146/48
Viable Moves: Strength, Hyper Voice, Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Freeze-Dry, Strength Sap, Fire Fang, Power-Up Punch, Fire Punch, Icicle Spear, Mach Punch, Psychic, King's Shield, Glare, Moonlight, V-Create, Low Kick, Fiery Dance, Shore Up, Drain Punch
Other Moves: Secret Power, Fell Stinger, Bulldoze, Pluck, Crush Claw, Bone Rush, Flame Charge, Dig, Freeze Shock, Trick-or-Treat, Amnesia, Feint Attack, Camoflauge, Lock-On, Glaciate, Headbutt, Hyperspace Hole, Cotton Spore, Gear Up, Mega Punch
That's about it. Discussion phase has begun!
Synchronoise is a move, the ability is Synchronize.
Barracoth is a great mon. 75/146/139 with Shadow Shield, Roost, Spiky Shield and Toxic. Balanced because it's taunt bait. Also because it takes 2x from rocks.
Pengith's weird. Not sure if it's good, great or straight up broken. Real bad typing defensively and poor Speed, but that bulk combined with Fluffy, and that high Attack combined with amazing physical movepool... I dunno.
Rockodile is a no from me. 177 Attack and that physical movepool? Nuh-uh. Quick Feet lets it outspeed max investment base 125 mons, either by running Toxic Orb or by switching into a status move. Throw in Swords Dance, Z-Conversion and two different priority options and that thing becomes versatile, unpredictable and unreasonable. Quick Feet + Z-Conversion outspeeds Scarfed base 125 mons.
Hippopuna is a lovely slow wallbreaker. Has everything you could ask for, except a boosting move. Ghost/Ground is good offensively. Nature Power gives it a boosted Psychic under Psychic Terrain. Nature's Madness lets it wallbreak things that resist its moves. However Ghost/Ground typing is full of weaknesses so it's balanced.
Flamash seems extremely annoying. 115/97/146 bulk with both Strength Sap and King's Shield, on top of Glare. However I don't see any other tool it could use besides that.
Barracoth is a great mon. 75/146/139 with Shadow Shield, Roost, Spiky Shield and Toxic. Balanced because it's taunt bait. Also because it takes 2x from rocks.
Pengith's weird. Not sure if it's good, great or straight up broken. Real bad typing defensively and poor Speed, but that bulk combined with Fluffy, and that high Attack combined with amazing physical movepool... I dunno.
Rockodile is a no from me. 177 Attack and that physical movepool? Nuh-uh. Quick Feet lets it outspeed max investment base 125 mons, either by running Toxic Orb or by switching into a status move. Throw in Swords Dance, Z-Conversion and two different priority options and that thing becomes versatile, unpredictable and unreasonable. Quick Feet + Z-Conversion outspeeds Scarfed base 125 mons.
Hippopuna is a lovely slow wallbreaker. Has everything you could ask for, except a boosting move. Ghost/Ground is good offensively. Nature Power gives it a boosted Psychic under Psychic Terrain. Nature's Madness lets it wallbreak things that resist its moves. However Ghost/Ground typing is full of weaknesses so it's balanced.
Flamash seems extremely annoying. 115/97/146 bulk with both Strength Sap and King's Shield, on top of Glare. However I don't see any other tool it could use besides that.
I mean to be fair, its priority is non STAB Aqua Jet and non STAB First Impression, and even with Quick Feet, 67 speed at +1 isnt exactly blitzing much. Also you say Quick Feet + Z-Conversion, but how will you activate Quick Feet while doing a Z-Conversion set. I'm just saying, this mon looks good, but doesnt look broken to me at all.
Not posting my thoughts because I don't have much time on wifi anymore (I can use cell service on my phone but can't make long posts like this), but I do have a few things to share regardless. First off, I have a new sprite that some of you on Discord might have seen -
- Well his stat spread is similar to Crazefly, they're both insane, and I feel like being lazy, soooooo I'm done. This is all you're getting from me.
- Here's the ACTUAL sprite. I posted the "concept art" for it here but I made a few changes. I gave it more arms, and I made it a bit more hunched over as well. Red is the color of my favorite sports team, and 10 is my favorite number, so I just put those there as placeholders. I can't imagine this being an actual Pokemon, but this is a fan project, and I can make something pretty goofy if I want to.
- And here's the Shiny. I made it green because I don't know. I'm open to changing this, and I'm open to criticism on both of these.
And that's not all! Here's another unfinished one...
- Here's Flamyle. There aren't any words that end in "-yle" that I felt would fit here, so I revived a dead concept I had and made an exploding missile! Once again, I couldn't see this as an actual Pokemon for obvious reasons, but I feel like it's weird enough of a design to fit here. The cloud above his head is old, and I'm going to make it look not terrible later.
- Here's the Shiny. Most missiles are apparently white which I learned after making the base sprite and having the gray flames become more like smoke seemed like a fun idea to me.
Once again, THIS IS UNFINISHED. Expect it to change in many different ways when I post it again here.
That's about it! I'll be opening voting tomorrow.
And that's not all! Here's another unfinished one...
Once again, THIS IS UNFINISHED. Expect it to change in many different ways when I post it again here.
That's about it! I'll be opening voting tomorrow.
Hippopuna, Barracoth, Pengith
And with that, Barracoth narrowly wins this round! Sheet has been updated.
Onto the next slate...
That's about it. I always have an issue of waiting way too long to finish slates, I need to work on that...anyways, discussion phase has begun!
Onto the next slate...
Chickou
Flying
Technician/No Second Ability/Cute Charm
37/97/136/95/116/119
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Acrobatics, Power Gem, X-Scissor, Anchor Shot, Techno Blast, Iron Head, Lunar Dance, Shore Up, Earth Power, Earthquake, Stealth Rock, Moonblast, Dark Pulse, Boomburst, Thousand Arrows, Whirlwind, Hammer Arm, Leaf Storm
Other Moves: Tickle, Focus Energy, Rage Powder, Heal Block, Play Nice, Swift, Glaciate, Night Daze, Horn Attack, Thief, Dragon Rage, Bestow, Chip Away, Power Trip, Accupressure, Water Sport, Mud Sport, Constrict, Smart Strike, Secret Power
Flying
Technician/No Second Ability/Cute Charm
37/97/136/95/116/119
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Acrobatics, Power Gem, X-Scissor, Anchor Shot, Techno Blast, Iron Head, Lunar Dance, Shore Up, Earth Power, Earthquake, Stealth Rock, Moonblast, Dark Pulse, Boomburst, Thousand Arrows, Whirlwind, Hammer Arm, Leaf Storm
Other Moves: Tickle, Focus Energy, Rage Powder, Heal Block, Play Nice, Swift, Glaciate, Night Daze, Horn Attack, Thief, Dragon Rage, Bestow, Chip Away, Power Trip, Accupressure, Water Sport, Mud Sport, Constrict, Smart Strike, Secret Power
Armazar
Steel/Fairy
Water Bubble/Pickup/Liquid Ooze
93/98/126/57/167/59
Viable Moves: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Play Rough, Moonblast, Megahorn, Surf, Heal Bell, Nature Power, Water Spout, Baneful Bunker, Energy Ball, Meteor Mash, Thousand Arrows, Relic Song, Eruption, Psychic Fangs, Rock Blast, Counter, Wish, Poison Jab
Other Moves: Heart Stamp, Sunny Day, Foresight, Sky Attack, Bestow, Egg Bomb, Supersonic, Magnitude, String Shot, Submission, Spark, Smart Strike, Flail, Trump Card, Wake-Up Slap, Smokescreen, Lick, Incinerate, Confusion, Poison Tail
Steel/Fairy
Water Bubble/Pickup/Liquid Ooze
93/98/126/57/167/59
Viable Moves: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Play Rough, Moonblast, Megahorn, Surf, Heal Bell, Nature Power, Water Spout, Baneful Bunker, Energy Ball, Meteor Mash, Thousand Arrows, Relic Song, Eruption, Psychic Fangs, Rock Blast, Counter, Wish, Poison Jab
Other Moves: Heart Stamp, Sunny Day, Foresight, Sky Attack, Bestow, Egg Bomb, Supersonic, Magnitude, String Shot, Submission, Spark, Smart Strike, Flail, Trump Card, Wake-Up Slap, Smokescreen, Lick, Incinerate, Confusion, Poison Tail
Toados
Poison
Grassy Surge/No Second Ability/Unburden
151/119/11/154/68/97
Viable Moves: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Leaf Blade, Attack Order, Bulk Up, Moongeist Beam, Dazzling Gleam, Encore, Dragon Claw, Icicle Crash, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Psystrike, Dragon Tail, Destiny Bond, Sky Uppercut, Toxic Spikes, Clear Smog, Bug Buzz, Rock Blast
Other Moves: Nightmare, Floral Healing, Grassy Terrain, Venoshock, Mud-Slap, Last Resort, Dizzy Punch, Grass Pledge, Snore, Smelling Salts, Rain Dance, Blizzard, Bubble, Lock-On, Octazooka, Barrier, Karate Chop, Quick Guard, Water Gun, Headbutt
Poison
Grassy Surge/No Second Ability/Unburden
151/119/11/154/68/97
Viable Moves: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Leaf Blade, Attack Order, Bulk Up, Moongeist Beam, Dazzling Gleam, Encore, Dragon Claw, Icicle Crash, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Psystrike, Dragon Tail, Destiny Bond, Sky Uppercut, Toxic Spikes, Clear Smog, Bug Buzz, Rock Blast
Other Moves: Nightmare, Floral Healing, Grassy Terrain, Venoshock, Mud-Slap, Last Resort, Dizzy Punch, Grass Pledge, Snore, Smelling Salts, Rain Dance, Blizzard, Bubble, Lock-On, Octazooka, Barrier, Karate Chop, Quick Guard, Water Gun, Headbutt
Lobstaring
Ghost/Water
Natural Cure/Symbiosis/Oblivious
91/122/129/45/67/146
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Waterfall, Surf, Drill Peck, Bug Buzz, Sacred Sword, Dark Pulse, U-Turn, Discharge, Core Enforcer, Trick, Rock Blast, Acid Spray, Encore, Zen Headbutt, Close Combat, Will-o-Wisp, Extrasensory, Tail Slap
Other Moves: Sharpen, Giga Impact, Curse, Electro Ball, Razor Shell, Future Sight, Tearful Look, Play Nice, Powder Snow, Magical Leaf, Supersonic, Wring Out, Spider Web, Harden, Hold Hands, Water Gun, Psych Up, Rototiller, Spotlight, Dragon Breath
Ghost/Water
Natural Cure/Symbiosis/Oblivious
91/122/129/45/67/146
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Waterfall, Surf, Drill Peck, Bug Buzz, Sacred Sword, Dark Pulse, U-Turn, Discharge, Core Enforcer, Trick, Rock Blast, Acid Spray, Encore, Zen Headbutt, Close Combat, Will-o-Wisp, Extrasensory, Tail Slap
Other Moves: Sharpen, Giga Impact, Curse, Electro Ball, Razor Shell, Future Sight, Tearful Look, Play Nice, Powder Snow, Magical Leaf, Supersonic, Wring Out, Spider Web, Harden, Hold Hands, Water Gun, Psych Up, Rototiller, Spotlight, Dragon Breath
Oddamander
Psychic
Shield Dust/Unnerve/Steelworker
125/54/118/131/82/90
Viable Moves: Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Strength Sap, Hyper Voice, Ice Punch, Aura Sphere, Power Gem, V-Create, Zing Zap, Psycho Boost, Seed Flare, Trick Room, Hammer Arm, Leaf Storm, Mind Blown, Destiny Bond, Aqua Jet, Plasma Fists, Night Shade, Body Slam
Other Moves: Telekinesis, Storm Throw, Dynamic Punch, Frost Breath, Rain Dance, Grudge, Screech, Lock-On, Metal Burst, Slam, High Horsepower, Mud-Slap, Hyperspace Fury, False Swipe, Feint, Rolling Kick, Dark Void, Absorb, Rage, Sky Drop
Psychic
Shield Dust/Unnerve/Steelworker
125/54/118/131/82/90
Viable Moves: Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Strength Sap, Hyper Voice, Ice Punch, Aura Sphere, Power Gem, V-Create, Zing Zap, Psycho Boost, Seed Flare, Trick Room, Hammer Arm, Leaf Storm, Mind Blown, Destiny Bond, Aqua Jet, Plasma Fists, Night Shade, Body Slam
Other Moves: Telekinesis, Storm Throw, Dynamic Punch, Frost Breath, Rain Dance, Grudge, Screech, Lock-On, Metal Burst, Slam, High Horsepower, Mud-Slap, Hyperspace Fury, False Swipe, Feint, Rolling Kick, Dark Void, Absorb, Rage, Sky Drop
That's about it. I always have an issue of waiting way too long to finish slates, I need to work on that...anyways, discussion phase has begun!
Chickou: Yet another mono-Flying type. To be honest, I think this got dull after Albatrygon got in. Its moves are solid, but its stats and abilities are nothing to write home about.
Armazar: I wish I could say with all certainty this thing is balanced. It has access to Wish plus Baneful Bunker, and Water Bubble allows it to delete one of its weaknesses. It won't be using Water Bubble for offense due to it not getting any physical Water moves, but it doesn't need it with a combo of Play Rough + Thousand Arrows. It's a defensive mon by default, but considering it gets literally perfect coverage on top of Wish and a special version of Protect, it's capable of taking on just about anything. The stats are super minmaxed, which is what worries me, so I'm gonna err on the side of caution and say it's probably a no-go. It is very cool, but cool does not equal balanced.
Toados: Defense like paper makes me inclined to not like this, but it has potential as an Unburden user. I can see it working like how Drifblim uses Unburden, for support. It can fire off fast Encores, Clear Smogs, and Destiny Bonds, as well as setting up T-Spikes and pressuring certain mons with a strong base SpA. It has potential, but I couldn't say how much without the meta being developed.
Lobstaring: A solid fast offensive mon. This thing gets U-Turn and Trick, which makes it a perfect Choice Band user. It has both Fighting and Psychic coverage, and even Flying coverage if you want to beat Bug types. And, because it's not as fast as the very fast mons (underspeeding Koatric by one point), they can reliably check it. Overall, I like it. Also, I have a good idea for its sprite.
Oddamander: Kinesel feels better than this, but it is notably bulkier. It also packs some very notable coverage in Mind Blown and Seed Flare, as well as STAB Psycho Boost. It's probably better for setting Trick Room, but it's a worse mon inside of Trick Room than Kinesel.
Armazar: I wish I could say with all certainty this thing is balanced. It has access to Wish plus Baneful Bunker, and Water Bubble allows it to delete one of its weaknesses. It won't be using Water Bubble for offense due to it not getting any physical Water moves, but it doesn't need it with a combo of Play Rough + Thousand Arrows. It's a defensive mon by default, but considering it gets literally perfect coverage on top of Wish and a special version of Protect, it's capable of taking on just about anything. The stats are super minmaxed, which is what worries me, so I'm gonna err on the side of caution and say it's probably a no-go. It is very cool, but cool does not equal balanced.
Toados: Defense like paper makes me inclined to not like this, but it has potential as an Unburden user. I can see it working like how Drifblim uses Unburden, for support. It can fire off fast Encores, Clear Smogs, and Destiny Bonds, as well as setting up T-Spikes and pressuring certain mons with a strong base SpA. It has potential, but I couldn't say how much without the meta being developed.
Lobstaring: A solid fast offensive mon. This thing gets U-Turn and Trick, which makes it a perfect Choice Band user. It has both Fighting and Psychic coverage, and even Flying coverage if you want to beat Bug types. And, because it's not as fast as the very fast mons (underspeeding Koatric by one point), they can reliably check it. Overall, I like it. Also, I have a good idea for its sprite.
Oddamander: Kinesel feels better than this, but it is notably bulkier. It also packs some very notable coverage in Mind Blown and Seed Flare, as well as STAB Psycho Boost. It's probably better for setting Trick Room, but it's a worse mon inside of Trick Room than Kinesel.
Chickou is boring.
93/126/167 bulk... Steel/Fairy... Water Bubble... Wish and Baneful Bunker... Counter and Heal Bell... Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh...
Toados seems like it's all over the place, but also really solid. If we get a Psychic Surge support mon, Unburden + terrain boosted Psystrike off of 154 SpA is sick as hell. As it is, I'm not sure if it would be an utility mon or an Unburden sweeper.
Lobstaring has kind of a shallow movepool. No priority, no set-up, no recovery. All of its coverage moves are 80 BP or lower except for the Fighting-type ones. However, U-Turn+Natural Cure, high Speed, and overall minmaxed stats might make it really good.
Oddamander is a good mon, but I agree with Keegan about Kinesel seeming better.
93/126/167 bulk... Steel/Fairy... Water Bubble... Wish and Baneful Bunker... Counter and Heal Bell... Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh...
Toados seems like it's all over the place, but also really solid. If we get a Psychic Surge support mon, Unburden + terrain boosted Psystrike off of 154 SpA is sick as hell. As it is, I'm not sure if it would be an utility mon or an Unburden sweeper.
Lobstaring has kind of a shallow movepool. No priority, no set-up, no recovery. All of its coverage moves are 80 BP or lower except for the Fighting-type ones. However, U-Turn+Natural Cure, high Speed, and overall minmaxed stats might make it really good.
Oddamander is a good mon, but I agree with Keegan about Kinesel seeming better.
Toados, Oddamander, Lobstaring
Alright, Toados wins that round. It's now on the spreadsheet, and the others (rip Lobstaring it was one vote off) were added to the rejected builds.
Onto the next slate...
That's about it! Discussion phase has begun!
Onto the next slate...
Chimpanzory
Fighting
Analytic/Super Luck/Ice Body
121/61/71/141/63/143
Viable Moves: Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Psywave, Refresh, Light of Ruin, Spikes, Spiky Shield, Haze, Hydro Pump, Outrage, Super Fang, Recover, Power Gem, Defend Order, Ice Beam, Clear Smog, Scald, Focus Blast, Psycho Cut, Avalanche
Other Moves: Infestation, Peck, Sand Tomb, Pound, Rock Smash, Misty Terrain, Recycle, Struggle, Fire Spin, Thrash, Supersonic, Reversal, Razor Shell, Brine, Teleport, Stockpile, Kinesis, Bone Club, Power Trip, Metal Claw
Fighting
Analytic/Super Luck/Ice Body
121/61/71/141/63/143
Viable Moves: Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Psywave, Refresh, Light of Ruin, Spikes, Spiky Shield, Haze, Hydro Pump, Outrage, Super Fang, Recover, Power Gem, Defend Order, Ice Beam, Clear Smog, Scald, Focus Blast, Psycho Cut, Avalanche
Other Moves: Infestation, Peck, Sand Tomb, Pound, Rock Smash, Misty Terrain, Recycle, Struggle, Fire Spin, Thrash, Supersonic, Reversal, Razor Shell, Brine, Teleport, Stockpile, Kinesis, Bone Club, Power Trip, Metal Claw
Magicida
Rock/Psychic
Battle Armor/Rattled/Poison Touch
123/167/73/50/139/48
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Destiny Bond, Dazzling Gleam, Trick, First Impression, Flash Cannon, Focus Punch, Play Rough, Sky Uppercut, Lunar Dance, Defog, Sludge Bomb, Techno Blast, Petal Blizzard, Fleur Cannon, Dragon Dance, Poison Jab
Other Moves: Muddy Water, Growth, Withdraw, Flatter, Guard Split, Egg Bomb, Double Hit, Heart Swap, Wide Guard, Tearful Look, Vice Grip, Electrify, Sandstorm, Grass Pledge, Acid, Frenzy Plant, Ancient Power, Mist Ball, Strength, Celebrate
Rock/Psychic
Battle Armor/Rattled/Poison Touch
123/167/73/50/139/48
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Destiny Bond, Dazzling Gleam, Trick, First Impression, Flash Cannon, Focus Punch, Play Rough, Sky Uppercut, Lunar Dance, Defog, Sludge Bomb, Techno Blast, Petal Blizzard, Fleur Cannon, Dragon Dance, Poison Jab
Other Moves: Muddy Water, Growth, Withdraw, Flatter, Guard Split, Egg Bomb, Double Hit, Heart Swap, Wide Guard, Tearful Look, Vice Grip, Electrify, Sandstorm, Grass Pledge, Acid, Frenzy Plant, Ancient Power, Mist Ball, Strength, Celebrate
Spinium
Normal/Steel
Pickup/Cloud Nine/Big Pecks
57/62/124/172/154/31
Viable Moves: Strength, Hyper Voice, Flash Cannon, Iron Head, Drill Peck, Boomburst, Air Slash, Synthesis, Slack Off, Draco Meteor, Aeroblast, First Impression, Lunar Dance, Aqua Jet, Psychic, Stealth Rock, Rock Blast, Diamond Storm, Fake Out, Oblivion Wing
Other Moves: Frost Breath, Steamroller, Charm, Pluck, Flying Press, Grass Pledge, Mud-Slap, Burn Up, Constrict, Telekinesis, Acid, Disarming Voice, Rock Climb, Harden, Camoflauge, Triple Kick, Spit Up, Wake-Up Slap, Fury Attack, Dragon Rage
Normal/Steel
Pickup/Cloud Nine/Big Pecks
57/62/124/172/154/31
Viable Moves: Strength, Hyper Voice, Flash Cannon, Iron Head, Drill Peck, Boomburst, Air Slash, Synthesis, Slack Off, Draco Meteor, Aeroblast, First Impression, Lunar Dance, Aqua Jet, Psychic, Stealth Rock, Rock Blast, Diamond Storm, Fake Out, Oblivion Wing
Other Moves: Frost Breath, Steamroller, Charm, Pluck, Flying Press, Grass Pledge, Mud-Slap, Burn Up, Constrict, Telekinesis, Acid, Disarming Voice, Rock Climb, Harden, Camoflauge, Triple Kick, Spit Up, Wake-Up Slap, Fury Attack, Dragon Rage
Voltarak
Electric/Ice
Technician/No Second Ability/Gale Wings
100/75/87/130/128/80
Viable Moves: Fusion Bolt, Thunderbolt, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Drill Run, Switcheroo, Explosion, Pain Split, Fiery Dance, Toxic Spikes, Milk Drink, Detect, Cross Chop, Synthesis, Plasma Fists, Acrobatics, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Head Smash, Hyper Voice
Other Moves: Powder Snow, Bide, Power Swap, Signal Beam, Flame Burst, Smokescreen, Flower Shield, Skill Swap, Magnetic Flux, Ally Switch, Steel Wing, Assurance, Blizzard, Dual Chop, Poison Fang, Pay Day, Sand Tomb, Cross Poison, Fairy Lock, Pound
Electric/Ice
Technician/No Second Ability/Gale Wings
100/75/87/130/128/80
Viable Moves: Fusion Bolt, Thunderbolt, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Drill Run, Switcheroo, Explosion, Pain Split, Fiery Dance, Toxic Spikes, Milk Drink, Detect, Cross Chop, Synthesis, Plasma Fists, Acrobatics, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Head Smash, Hyper Voice
Other Moves: Powder Snow, Bide, Power Swap, Signal Beam, Flame Burst, Smokescreen, Flower Shield, Skill Swap, Magnetic Flux, Ally Switch, Steel Wing, Assurance, Blizzard, Dual Chop, Poison Fang, Pay Day, Sand Tomb, Cross Poison, Fairy Lock, Pound
Fiemeleon
Fire
Cheek Pouch/No Second Ability/Light Metal
78/49/74/94/141/164
Viable Moves: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Switcheroo, Flash Cannon, Autotomize, Whirlwind, Double-Edge, Hydro Pump, Milk Drink, Fusion Flare, Hone Claws, Thunderbolt, Spiky Shield, King's Shield, Sunsteel Strike, Agility, Photon Geyser, Stealth Rock, Seismic Toss, Relic Song
Other Moves: After You, Mud Shot, Water Gun, Misty Terrain, Heal Block, Bubble, Instruct, Constrict, Poison Sting, Feint Attack, Spotlight, Cotton Spore, Struggle Bug, Double Hit, Helping Hand, Punishment, Hyperspace Fury, Guard Swap, Horn Attack, Luster Purge
Fire
Cheek Pouch/No Second Ability/Light Metal
78/49/74/94/141/164
Viable Moves: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Switcheroo, Flash Cannon, Autotomize, Whirlwind, Double-Edge, Hydro Pump, Milk Drink, Fusion Flare, Hone Claws, Thunderbolt, Spiky Shield, King's Shield, Sunsteel Strike, Agility, Photon Geyser, Stealth Rock, Seismic Toss, Relic Song
Other Moves: After You, Mud Shot, Water Gun, Misty Terrain, Heal Block, Bubble, Instruct, Constrict, Poison Sting, Feint Attack, Spotlight, Cotton Spore, Struggle Bug, Double Hit, Helping Hand, Punishment, Hyperspace Fury, Guard Swap, Horn Attack, Luster Purge
That's about it! Discussion phase has begun!
Chimpanzory: A mono-Fighting monkey is something we already have, but it is very different to Brawnkey. However, I don't know if this thing would be balanced. It gets very powerful offensive moves like Light of Ruin (and lots of health to burn) and Hydro Pump, as well as actually getting Focus Blast as a Special Fighting type, all while punishing switches with Analytic or getting more crits with Super Luck.
Magicida: A very good Trick Room mon, but it unfortunately can't set it. Regardless, it gets a solid amount of coverage, like Play Rough and Poison Jab, as well as utility and other options, like Spikes and First Impression. Rattled is intereting, since it's weak to all the types related to it, but it has enough bulk to where it might be able to take a hit, and Dragon Dance once to be at +3 Speed and possibly take on slower mons. Poison Touch is probably its best ability though. It might be a bit much, but it's hard to judge.
Spinium: Boomburst, Oblivion Wing, Psychic, Flash Cannon, and Frost Breath, on top of 174 SpA and a Steel typing, as well as Slack Off and decent bulk. Sure, it's 4x weak to Fighting, but it also has all of Steel's resists. Also, this thing has a lot of Flying traits. Big Pecks and plenty of Flying moves. Probably not a good idea.
Voltarak: Ice/Electric has a lot of weaknesses and not too many resists, but for what it's worth, it can work. It can go for Elemental power in Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Fiery Dance, and Energy Ball. If you want a different type of coverage, you can run Technician boosted Hidden Power. Finally, it's fast enough to run a Scarf, and you can use Switcheroo to cripple your foe. Overall, I like it, but we have quite a few Electric types already.
Fiemeleon: Fast specially defensive utility, with a decent offensive option in Fusion Flare, good coverage, recovery via Cheek Pouch and Milk Drink, protection via King's Shield and Spiky Shield, and for some insane reason, both Agility and Autotomize. We do need more Fire types, but we already have a mono-Fire type that happens to be a reptile. I guess it's not unreasonable, but it's not my first pick here.
Magicida: A very good Trick Room mon, but it unfortunately can't set it. Regardless, it gets a solid amount of coverage, like Play Rough and Poison Jab, as well as utility and other options, like Spikes and First Impression. Rattled is intereting, since it's weak to all the types related to it, but it has enough bulk to where it might be able to take a hit, and Dragon Dance once to be at +3 Speed and possibly take on slower mons. Poison Touch is probably its best ability though. It might be a bit much, but it's hard to judge.
Spinium: Boomburst, Oblivion Wing, Psychic, Flash Cannon, and Frost Breath, on top of 174 SpA and a Steel typing, as well as Slack Off and decent bulk. Sure, it's 4x weak to Fighting, but it also has all of Steel's resists. Also, this thing has a lot of Flying traits. Big Pecks and plenty of Flying moves. Probably not a good idea.
Voltarak: Ice/Electric has a lot of weaknesses and not too many resists, but for what it's worth, it can work. It can go for Elemental power in Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Fiery Dance, and Energy Ball. If you want a different type of coverage, you can run Technician boosted Hidden Power. Finally, it's fast enough to run a Scarf, and you can use Switcheroo to cripple your foe. Overall, I like it, but we have quite a few Electric types already.
Fiemeleon: Fast specially defensive utility, with a decent offensive option in Fusion Flare, good coverage, recovery via Cheek Pouch and Milk Drink, protection via King's Shield and Spiky Shield, and for some insane reason, both Agility and Autotomize. We do need more Fire types, but we already have a mono-Fire type that happens to be a reptile. I guess it's not unreasonable, but it's not my first pick here.
