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Pet Mod Roulettemons [Finished Mod + Now with Random Battles!]
- Thread starter DuoM2
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Voting is done, and Scorpita was the winner! It was moved to the "Usable Pokemon" section of the spreadsheet, as the other four went to a new "Rejected Builds" section. Since voting phase is over, here are the next five builds...
Discussion phase has started. I'll post my thoughts on these builds later.
Rockonite
Rock/Dark
Rain Dish/Leaf Guard/Magnet Pull
68, 141, 84, 179, 48, 80
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Crunch, Dark Pulse, Grass Knot, Dragon Dance, Heat Wave, Volt Switch, Shore Up, Gunk Shot, Revelation Dance, Liquidation, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, Night Slash, Cross Chop, Drill Peck, Fire Blast, Cotton Guard, Refresh
Rock/Dark
Rain Dish/Leaf Guard/Magnet Pull
68, 141, 84, 179, 48, 80
Viable Moves: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Crunch, Dark Pulse, Grass Knot, Dragon Dance, Heat Wave, Volt Switch, Shore Up, Gunk Shot, Revelation Dance, Liquidation, U-Turn, Toxic Spikes, Night Slash, Cross Chop, Drill Peck, Fire Blast, Cotton Guard, Refresh
Shelphin
Water/Bug
Pixilate/No Second Ability/Anger Point
147, 44, 106, 122, 97, 84
Viable Moves: Surf, Waterfall, X-Scissor, Bug Buzz, Stealth Rock, Calm Mind, Fusion Flare, Precipice Blades, Revelation Dance, Knock Off, Gear Grind, Toxic Spikes, Stone Edge, Heat Wave, Discharge, Spirit Shackle, Fire Lash, Cotton Guard, Ice Beam, Perish Song
Water/Bug
Pixilate/No Second Ability/Anger Point
147, 44, 106, 122, 97, 84
Viable Moves: Surf, Waterfall, X-Scissor, Bug Buzz, Stealth Rock, Calm Mind, Fusion Flare, Precipice Blades, Revelation Dance, Knock Off, Gear Grind, Toxic Spikes, Stone Edge, Heat Wave, Discharge, Spirit Shackle, Fire Lash, Cotton Guard, Ice Beam, Perish Song
Terrarak
Dark/Ground
Merciless/Multiscale/Steelworker
54, 194, 76, 45, 118, 113
Viable Moves: Crunch, Dark Pulse, Earthquake, Earth Power, Hydro Pump, Wild Charge, Diamond Storm, Psywave, Sucker Punch, Hyper Voice, Psychic Fangs, Brick Break, Aqua Jet, Spirit Shackle, Fusion Flare, Nature's Madness, Shadow Sneak, Perish Song, Sludge Wave, Heal Order
Dark/Ground
Merciless/Multiscale/Steelworker
54, 194, 76, 45, 118, 113
Viable Moves: Crunch, Dark Pulse, Earthquake, Earth Power, Hydro Pump, Wild Charge, Diamond Storm, Psywave, Sucker Punch, Hyper Voice, Psychic Fangs, Brick Break, Aqua Jet, Spirit Shackle, Fusion Flare, Nature's Madness, Shadow Sneak, Perish Song, Sludge Wave, Heal Order
Dragoly
Flying/Dragon
Natural Cure/Emergency Exit/Guts
168, 128, 95, 115, 50, 44
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Bug Buzz, Plasma Fists, Parting Shot, Zing Zap, Dark Pulse, Hurricane, Stone Edge, Aura Sphere, Nasty Plot, Psycho Boost, Meteor Mash, Power Whip, Mach Punch, Flamethrower, Slack Off, Nature Power
Flying/Dragon
Natural Cure/Emergency Exit/Guts
168, 128, 95, 115, 50, 44
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Bug Buzz, Plasma Fists, Parting Shot, Zing Zap, Dark Pulse, Hurricane, Stone Edge, Aura Sphere, Nasty Plot, Psycho Boost, Meteor Mash, Power Whip, Mach Punch, Flamethrower, Slack Off, Nature Power
Baloon (look man i hate the name as much as you do but this is the first fairy name the generator gave me so i have to go with it)
Fairy
Refrigerate/Contrary/Symbiosis
137/124/142/102/12/83
Viable Moves: Play Rough, Moonblast, Water Spout, Baneful Bunker, Fake Out, Toxic Spikes, Seismic Toss, Spirit Shackle, Darkest Lariat, Mach Punch, Cotton Guard, Volt Tackle, Spacial Rend, Hyper Voice, Heal Order, Super Fang, Anchor Shot, Clanging Scales, Dragon Dance, Fire Punch
Fairy
Refrigerate/Contrary/Symbiosis
137/124/142/102/12/83
Viable Moves: Play Rough, Moonblast, Water Spout, Baneful Bunker, Fake Out, Toxic Spikes, Seismic Toss, Spirit Shackle, Darkest Lariat, Mach Punch, Cotton Guard, Volt Tackle, Spacial Rend, Hyper Voice, Heal Order, Super Fang, Anchor Shot, Clanging Scales, Dragon Dance, Fire Punch
Discussion phase has started. I'll post my thoughts on these builds later.
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
Is it just me or are all the builds in this slate are way more overpowered than the ones prior lol? Terrarak especially looks amazing.
Will post more thoughts later.
Will post more thoughts later.
All I can tell is Terrarak seems insane, with Ground/Dark STAB combo alongside insane 194 Attack and reasonable 113 Speed. Merciless can especially bring insanity if anything else had put Toxic Spikes on the opponent's side. It do have awful physical bulk but Multiscale can mitigate this somewhat.
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
It also gets Diamond Storm, which is unreliable because 50% chance, but will increase its physical bulk by a bunch sometimes.
Excuse me but no this name is great
Sorry for the lack of activity. Long story short, my computer came very close to bricking and if I use it with wifi I have a chance of bricking it again. Until I get a new one my posts will be coming out more slowly.
But here are my thoughts on our current five...
Gonna think about adding a “don’t add any of these Pokemon” option to voting from now on as well, and if activity picks back up I’ll open voting soon.
But here are my thoughts on our current five...
This thing is super strong on top of having a good offensive typing, but it’s slow and frail. Its typing lets it break Crazefly easily, but I don’t know...those stats mean it would have to find a perfect scenario to get in. 80 Speed is really slow, and most Pokemon here have at least one good attacking stat, so it may be hard to get this in, especially since pivots are probably gonna be rarer than usual. Not sure how I feel about this.
This thing is so dumb. Really good stat spread, stupid coverage (Fire/Water/Ice/Electric), Calm Mind (and this thing will find it easy to set up given its bulk) and two hazards just in case it wants to set hazards. I don’t want this thing in the meta at all.
Why does this have base 194 Attack and Multiscale...its Speed isn’t spectacular but it’s super strong and has Psychic Fangs to wear down Brawnkey, who is probably gonna be the only thing that ever "reliably" beats this. This thing would probably destroy Stall and many balance builds by itself which I don’t really want in the meta.
Ridiculous physical bulk, still pretty good special bulk, and Guts with that already solid Attack stat? No thanks.
Baloon looks cool. Its Physical bulk is great, but its movepool doesn’t really make it a full-on physical wall...but this thing makes for a pretty fun attacker! Has Play Rough, Volt Tackle, and quite a few moves around base 80 power for coverage, and base 80 isn’t particularly high. Contrary seems like a really fun ability here, since it allows it to punish people who brainlessly switch in to Brawnkey a bunch and most likely gives it a good matchup against Sticky Web teams. Also, it Dragon Dance, but its Speed is a bit low for that and it’d have to drop Contrary. All in all, much as I don’t want something named “Baloon” to win, it looks like a really fun Pokemon, and it’s probably balanced.
Gonna think about adding a “don’t add any of these Pokemon” option to voting from now on as well, and if activity picks back up I’ll open voting soon.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
This is a unique one for sure. Its offenses are god-like, but everything else is mediocre to bad. Cool moves too. Seems like a prime wallbreaker.
Not sure if this is OP or not tbh. Sure, it's bulky and has good power and coverage, but a total lack of recovery is a major weakness for it. It'll definitely be a huge threat for sure, but it has flaws.
Hell no. 113 speed really is not that bad: a Scarf set could easily invalidate offense, and its immense Attack could rip apart even defense with its typing and coverage.
I like this one! Very bulky, good moves, but the typing and speed bring it down a bit.
I also like this one. It seems unbeatable... until you look at its Special Defense. Very solid all-around.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
Dragoly, Baloon, Shelphin
Baloon, Dragoly, Shelphin
Baloon won this slate! The other four were added to the “rejected builds” part of the spreadsheet. Now for our new builds...
And with that, discussion phase has begun. Posting my thoughts later!
Glasium
Ghost/Water
Tinted Lens/No Second Ability/Triage
46, 133, 65, 114, 140, 102
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Waterfall, Surf, Hex, Fire Lash, Ice Beam, Night Shade, Psyshock, Heat Wave, Dragon Hammer, Bullet Punch, Plasma Fists, Aqua Tail, Diamond Storm, Discharge, Nature's Madness, Scald, Nature Power, Spikes
Ghost/Water
Tinted Lens/No Second Ability/Triage
46, 133, 65, 114, 140, 102
Viable Moves: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Waterfall, Surf, Hex, Fire Lash, Ice Beam, Night Shade, Psyshock, Heat Wave, Dragon Hammer, Bullet Punch, Plasma Fists, Aqua Tail, Diamond Storm, Discharge, Nature's Madness, Scald, Nature Power, Spikes
Warite
Dragon/Flying
Gluttony/Contrary/Grassy Surge
133, 66, 188, 68, 89, 56
Viable Moves: Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Meteor Mash, Head Charge, Icicle Spear, Focus Blast, Power Whip, Night Slash, Strength Sap, King's Shield, Moongeist Beam, Superpower, Darkest Lariat, Toxic Spikes, Switcheroo, Baneful Bunker, Thunder Punch, Freeze-Dry
Dragon/Flying
Gluttony/Contrary/Grassy Surge
133, 66, 188, 68, 89, 56
Viable Moves: Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Meteor Mash, Head Charge, Icicle Spear, Focus Blast, Power Whip, Night Slash, Strength Sap, King's Shield, Moongeist Beam, Superpower, Darkest Lariat, Toxic Spikes, Switcheroo, Baneful Bunker, Thunder Punch, Freeze-Dry
Pengops
Flying/Ice
Friend Guard/No Second Ability/Sand Force
27, 53, 103, 114, 164, 139
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Zing Zap, Aqua Jet, Whirlwind, Clanging Scales, Perish Song, Double-Edge, Psychic Fangs, Final Gambit, Avalanche, Detect, Haze, Sunsteel Strike, Vacuum Wave, Hydro Pump, Fusion Flare, Dragon Tail
Flying/Ice
Friend Guard/No Second Ability/Sand Force
27, 53, 103, 114, 164, 139
Viable Moves: Drill Peck, Aeroblast, Icicle Crash, Ice Beam, Zing Zap, Aqua Jet, Whirlwind, Clanging Scales, Perish Song, Double-Edge, Psychic Fangs, Final Gambit, Avalanche, Detect, Haze, Sunsteel Strike, Vacuum Wave, Hydro Pump, Fusion Flare, Dragon Tail
Kinesel
Psychic/Fairy
Unaware/Tangled Feet/Trace
48, 146, 111, 165, 78, 52
Viable Moves: Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Play Rough, Moonblast, Aqua Tail, Trick Room, Hex, Swords Dance, U-Turn, Leech Life, Blaze Kick, Shadow Claw, Explosion, Relic Song, Light of Ruin, Wild Charge, Shadow Bone, Fire Punch, Bullet Punch, Pain Split
Psychic/Fairy
Unaware/Tangled Feet/Trace
48, 146, 111, 165, 78, 52
Viable Moves: Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Play Rough, Moonblast, Aqua Tail, Trick Room, Hex, Swords Dance, U-Turn, Leech Life, Blaze Kick, Shadow Claw, Explosion, Relic Song, Light of Ruin, Wild Charge, Shadow Bone, Fire Punch, Bullet Punch, Pain Split
Cobrette
Poison
Inner Focus/Solid Rock/Mold Breaker
98, 96, 105, 62, 88, 151
Viable Moves: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Bullet Punch, Shadow Sneak, Haze, Roost, Leaf Storm, Seed Flare, Blue Flare, Wild Charge, Fleur Cannon, Seismic Toss, Ice Hammer, Reflect Type, Sunsteel Strike, Pursuit, Defog, Sacred Fire, Thunderbolt, Psychic Fangs
Poison
Inner Focus/Solid Rock/Mold Breaker
98, 96, 105, 62, 88, 151
Viable Moves: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Bullet Punch, Shadow Sneak, Haze, Roost, Leaf Storm, Seed Flare, Blue Flare, Wild Charge, Fleur Cannon, Seismic Toss, Ice Hammer, Reflect Type, Sunsteel Strike, Pursuit, Defog, Sacred Fire, Thunderbolt, Psychic Fangs
And with that, discussion phase has begun. Posting my thoughts later!
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
This guy looks neat. Great offensive stats across the board with the godlike Tinted Lens. Seems like it would be best with a Scarf set.
A Contrary Dragon type... without Draco Meteor. Upon closer inspection, however, it looks like an insane defensive Pokemon: 133/188 Defense with Strength Sap AND King's Shield? oooooh boy.
Looks interesting at first, but the ability choices really let it down. I'll pass.
This thing looks neat, almost like an actually good version of Rockonite from last slate. Specs with Light of Ruin sounds heat to pick off certain foes.
Underwhelming, honestly. Stats aren't too exceptional aside from Speed, and we already have Scorpita as a pure Poison.
I'm going to say we should steer clear of Warite. 133 / 188 / 89 bulk means it can go max SpD and be insanely hard to break on both sides. Strength Sap + Kings Shield + that kind of bulk just seems like pure cancer.
Glasium and Pengops ( wins the name this time ) are glass cannon attackers; Pengops is more of a question mark due to Ice / Flying typing but at the same time it has a much better speed tier and an attacking movepool of Aeroblast / Ice Beam / Fusion Flare / Hydro Pump / Vacuum Wave looks really fun. Glasium probably shines as a mixed attacker thanks to Tinted Lens, at least while so many of the metagame have less than 50 in one or the other defense stat.
Kinesel has the potential to be a Trick Room god, at least if it has the bulk to pull it off. Fairium-Z + Light of Ruin is going to be really hard to switch into if Trick Room goes up, and it has other tools like Explosion and U-turn to help out with Trick Room momentum. Its special coverage movepool is limited to Hex, but luckily it has 146 Atk to back up that 165 SpA, so it could get away with running Blaze Kick to hit Steel types.
Cobrette is a case of missed potential, as it just lacks the movepool to use its combo of speed and bulk effectively. Defog / Haze / Sacred Fire make up its whole support movepool, and while Sacred Fire sounds awesome, it's not exactly unique in the metagame. If it had Taunt or an entry hazard I'd say it looks really interesting, but it would probably underwhelming as is.
Glasium and Pengops ( wins the name this time ) are glass cannon attackers; Pengops is more of a question mark due to Ice / Flying typing but at the same time it has a much better speed tier and an attacking movepool of Aeroblast / Ice Beam / Fusion Flare / Hydro Pump / Vacuum Wave looks really fun. Glasium probably shines as a mixed attacker thanks to Tinted Lens, at least while so many of the metagame have less than 50 in one or the other defense stat.
Kinesel has the potential to be a Trick Room god, at least if it has the bulk to pull it off. Fairium-Z + Light of Ruin is going to be really hard to switch into if Trick Room goes up, and it has other tools like Explosion and U-turn to help out with Trick Room momentum. Its special coverage movepool is limited to Hex, but luckily it has 146 Atk to back up that 165 SpA, so it could get away with running Blaze Kick to hit Steel types.
Cobrette is a case of missed potential, as it just lacks the movepool to use its combo of speed and bulk effectively. Defog / Haze / Sacred Fire make up its whole support movepool, and while Sacred Fire sounds awesome, it's not exactly unique in the metagame. If it had Taunt or an entry hazard I'd say it looks really interesting, but it would probably underwhelming as is.
Cookie Butter
formerly the someone
Glasium is cool.
I love Warite. Not only does it have Strenght Sap and King's Shield, but also Contrary Superpower. Too bad it can't make use of Grassy Surge because it's not grounded though.
Pengops just kinda sucks.
Kinesel is an awesome OTR user. STAB Light of Ruin + Pain Split is also nice.
Cobrette isn't bad, but unfortunately for it, there are better options this slate.
I love Warite. Not only does it have Strenght Sap and King's Shield, but also Contrary Superpower. Too bad it can't make use of Grassy Surge because it's not grounded though.
Pengops just kinda sucks.
Kinesel is an awesome OTR user. STAB Light of Ruin + Pain Split is also nice.
Cobrette isn't bad, but unfortunately for it, there are better options this slate.
Glasium @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Tinted Lens
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shadow Bone
- Waterfall
- Diamond Storm / Plasma Fists / Fire Lash / Thousand Waves / Spikes
- Diamond Storm / Plasma Fists / Fire Lash / Thousand Waves / Spikes
Overall, Glasium has a lot of Variety in the offensive sets that it runs. Shame that it doesn't have anything to abuse Triage with.
Ability: Tinted Lens
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shadow Bone
- Waterfall
- Diamond Storm / Plasma Fists / Fire Lash / Thousand Waves / Spikes
- Diamond Storm / Plasma Fists / Fire Lash / Thousand Waves / Spikes
Overall, Glasium has a lot of Variety in the offensive sets that it runs. Shame that it doesn't have anything to abuse Triage with.
Warite @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- King's Shield
- Strength Sap
- Superpower
- Toxic Spikes
Warite is a very powerful defensive pokemon, with Contrary Superpower, Strength Sap, and King's Shield. It even has Toxic Spikes to boot. Overall seems very good.
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- King's Shield
- Strength Sap
- Superpower
- Toxic Spikes
Warite is a very powerful defensive pokemon, with Contrary Superpower, Strength Sap, and King's Shield. It even has Toxic Spikes to boot. Overall seems very good.
Pengops @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aeroblast
- Ice Beam
- Fusion Flare
- Hydro Pump / Vacuum Wave
This is probably the worst of the 5, but it still does have it's merits. It is the third fastest pokemon in all of Roulettemons, and it also has a good attacking movepool along with decent Special Attack. It is lacking in the ability category, however.
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aeroblast
- Ice Beam
- Fusion Flare
- Hydro Pump / Vacuum Wave
This is probably the worst of the 5, but it still does have it's merits. It is the third fastest pokemon in all of Roulettemons, and it also has a good attacking movepool along with decent Special Attack. It is lacking in the ability category, however.
Kinesel @ Psychium Z
Ability: Trace
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Psychic
- Light of Ruin
- U-turn
- Trick Room
Kinesel @ Fairium Z
Ability: Trace
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Shadow Bone
- Trick Room
Kinesel is currently the slowest pokemon in Roulettemons as of now, meaining under Trick Room it is the fastest. It has higher base Special Attack, but Swords Dance and a deeper physical movepool could make it run Physical sets. Definitely my favorite from this slate.
Ability: Trace
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Psychic
- Light of Ruin
- U-turn
- Trick Room
Kinesel @ Fairium Z
Ability: Trace
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Shadow Bone
- Trick Room
Kinesel is currently the slowest pokemon in Roulettemons as of now, meaining under Trick Room it is the fastest. It has higher base Special Attack, but Swords Dance and a deeper physical movepool could make it run Physical sets. Definitely my favorite from this slate.
Cobrette @ Black Sludge
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Roost
- Toxic
- Haze / Defog
Cobrette uses it's naturally high speed to whittle down the opponent. Besides that it can't really do that much unfortunately. It doesn't have the offensive stats to compliment it's high speed, and it doesn't have high enough defenisve stats and support moves to become a real menace.
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Roost
- Toxic
- Haze / Defog
Cobrette uses it's naturally high speed to whittle down the opponent. Besides that it can't really do that much unfortunately. It doesn't have the offensive stats to compliment it's high speed, and it doesn't have high enough defenisve stats and support moves to become a real menace.
my favorite to least favorite would probably be: Kinesel, Glasium, Warite, Pengops, and Cobrette
Been kinda busy over the past few days so I’m not gonna post my thoughts. I’m not gonna vote without taking a bunch of time sitting down and looking into everything. Instead I’m just here to say that voting has begun. Same format as usual, being (First Vote, Second Vote, Third Vote), and “None” is still an option.
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
Warite, Kinesel, None