RU Tiering & Forum Rules

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EviGaro

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RU Tiering Philosophy

2 Week Voting block


Under normal circumstances, voting on initial quickbans or new drops will only occur after they’ve been in the tier for a minimum 2 weeks. We have no intention to vote on banning something just to retest it immediately after. This process has proven to be disruptive in the past and leads to hasty tiering decisions. By having time before a voting block occurs, this allows the council to make educated decisions for the tier while efficiently dealing with anything deemed broken or uncompetitive.

The case for a 1 week voting block

Only under extreme situations will we cast votes as early as one week. One of these situations is if a Pokemon is grossly overpowered to the extent that it makes the tier unplayable. Simply being “broken” will not be sufficient to take such measures, but if said Pokemon warps the tier so heavily around itself that it impedes the development of the metagame. Another case to cast votes early is if there is a significant RU tournament going on and the tier leadership chooses to hold a vote so as to not compromise the competitiveness of a large-scale tour.

Retests

We will only consider retests 6 months after a vote has occurred in a normal period (i.e. after a suspect test or voting block post-beta) or 3 months during a beta period or a 1 week voting block. Retests are moot if the metagame hasn’t been given enough time to change. If the community is dissatisfied with a vote, we want to give the tier adequate time to settle to be sure that doing a retest is the right decision rather than acting on knee-jerk reactions. We believe 6 months not only gives plenty of time, but also allows two full tier shift cycles, furthering bolstering the case for a potential retest. As with immediate voting blocks, retesting anything banned during that phase will occur sooner. This will give us a buffer in case any votes cast during beta or a week one period is deemed questionable.

The role of the RU council

The RU council is tasked with casting votes on potential suspects and nominations for voting blocks during the beta period. The tiering council serves as an advisory role to the tier leadership on any and all decisions pertaining to RU tiering. Council members are selected based on two criteria: playing ability demonstrated in tournament success and/or significant forum contributions. All council members, regardless of reasons they are selected, are expected to be consistently active and involved in the tier and to be able to articulate their tiering opinions that shows a clear understanding of the metagame. Council members are added on an as-need basis. Council members will typically include 7 members but will seldom exceed more than 9 members at any given time. Any non-Pokemon bans will exclusively be dealt with by the council. The RU Council will be formed at the start of beta and announced in this thread.

Suspect Tests

Once the tier has moved out of the beta period and has stabilized, suspects tests will occur. The tier leadership will start by holding a vote among the council. If a majority of the council agrees to a suspect (50% + 1), then a suspect test will occur. While the final call rests on the tier leadership, we will only take initiative if there is a clear split among the council with multiple options proposed and with a single decision needing to be made. We especially value community input during this phase and will ask for the public’s opinion (if it’s not already obvious) before moving forward with any decisions. Suspects tests typically last two weeks and with a focus on one Pokemon at a time. This is the chance the public has to take part in the tiering process. A simple 50% + 1 majority is required for a suspect to be sent to RUBL.

The RU council
RU Forum Rules
  • All threads must be approved by one of the forum moderators
  • Any tournaments must go through the tier leaders for approval
  • No one liners, double posts, or posts lacking content
  • All simple questions are designated to the SQSA thread
  • No posting of excessively large images
  • All other Smogon site-wide rules apply here
The forum moderators
 
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EviGaro

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RU Leader
Hello everyone, phantom and I are proud to announce the new RU Council that will start the gen with us! We're all excited to get into beta very soon and try to help shape the tier into an enjoyable experience for you all:

atomicllamas - Former RUTL, made an early comeback to the eight gen and has been what anyone could expect. A very good overall player and leader in discussions both in public chats and the new VR Council.

Averardo - One of our most important RU contributors from late SM to currently, hosts tours, threads, has been a quality poster for a while and had his competitive debut on official team tours in the last Snake Draft. Highly respected on the PS side as well being one of our main auths in the room.

Feliburn - A member of the last RU Council, Feliburn has stayed extremely active and on top of the metagame, being one of the biggest ladder tryhards you can find while posting insightful ideas on forums like he typically did in SM and before. His continued involvement is definitely appreciated and he is without question a leading head in this tier

MrAldo - Similarly to Feli, Aldo has been around for a while now as a mod for both the forums and the room, and has been involved into helping people ease into the new RU tier through discussions around the community. His dedication to RU is impressive and we look forward to seeing it continue this gen.

Odd Della Robbia - One of RU's new star players, but ODR is more than just that. While his clutch ability definitely makes him an example for new players in the tier to look up to, ODR's approachable demeanour and willingness to commit to the tier's development is what we personally think makes him an outstanding candidate for the RU Council, as he has been nothing short of great in whatever role he took so far.
 

phantom

Banned deucer.
We got two new council members!

Ajna has been one of the top tournament players in the tier for a long time now. Ajna has consistently dominated in tournaments while also being one of the most active council members during his previous tenure. Ajna has demonstrated both a great understanding and commitment to the tier that will make him a valuable asset to the council.

Bebo is a new face to the council. Bebo is one of the tier’s most active players, consistently topping the ladder and having a good run in RU’s circuit tournaments. He’s a positive presence on discord, where he’s regularly contributing to the chat and demonstrating good meta knowledge in doing so.

Congrats to both!
 

phantom

Banned deucer.
An addendum to the op:

In light of the DLC, we’re going to make some adjustments to our tiering policy. At the time the OP was written, we did not have information on the DLCs and modeled our tiering policy in a way that is incongruent with the way this game is changing. What does this mean for RU? It means that retests and quickbans will happen more frequently. Starting August, we will conduct voting slates in a week as opposed to our regular two week timetable. In addition, we will be voting on much of the current banlist to be retested that is subject to what the tier shifts give RU in August. These retests will be treated as regular drops and may be voted on alongside new Pokémon that are considered problematic. Tiering during the advent of the DLC is going to cause the tier’s power levels to fluctuate significantly, thereby making much of the current banlist obsolete. Our goal at the start was to never tier theoretical metagames - which we’re still committed to, but given that there are several important ongoing tournaments, it’s forced our hand in responding to changes in the metagame sooner.

At the start of August, the council will evaluate anything that is deemed gamebreaking and send it to RUBL before the end of the weekend. Given that there’s so little time in that period, the bar to ban something in those two days has to be very high. If something is going to be banned then, it has to be more than just broken. This will be treated as an urgent ban so the competitiveness of the tier’s tournaments are not compromised. If we’re lucky, we may not have to use this option, but it’s there just in case. Immediately following said decision, the council will vote on RUBL mons to retest based on the August drops. We hope to announce the results before the weekend is over as well. Then the council will hold a voting slate before the next weekend is over. Based on how the tier shapes up at that point, we may hold another vote in the next week or two weeks.

Once the tier finally settles from the first DLC craze, we will go back to our regular system as outlined in the OP. At the moment, we’re unsure as to when we will be holding public suspects. The tier changes too quickly to rely on that system, but if there’s a point in time where things are settled, then we will be sure to use that opportunity to let the community participate more actively in the tiering process, but we make no promises. We may also repeat the same procedures following DLC2.
 

phantom

Banned deucer.
Plan for DLC2:

Following the tiering announcement for DLC2, RU will be treating the month of November as a de facto alpha month. This means RU will not be banning anything throughout the entire month of November. Given that the tier will be in constant flux throughout the month, any bans that we make have the potential to be null by the time the tier finally settles. However, on November 15th, we will be voting on the entire RUBL list just like we did in DLC1. November 15th should theoretically be the tier shift that hits RU the hardest; we’ll be expecting the bottom tier UU mons alongside the OU drops that didn’t come down in the first shift to come down November 15th. The reason we’re voting on RUBL mid November is to give the tier time to adjust to the RUBL drops by the end of the month. By December 1st, we’ll have our first voting slate in preparation for the circuit playoffs. This vote will conclude before the 7th. Depending on how the tier shapes up at that point, we may consider revisiting RUBL a third time.
 

phantom

Banned deucer.
Small update to the above:

After some discussion with the council, we’ve decided that instead of a vote, we’ll be pressing the reset button on RUBL. This means everything in RUBL will be freed on the 15th. This DLC shift is likely going to be the largest one; as a result, we expect the power creep to scale up to SM RU power levels, if not higher. Two reasons why we’re doing this: the first is that it would be difficult to make educated votes based on a completely new meta, and because it’s new, starting fresh would be the best option rather than retaining a banlist that is irrespective of the new tier.
 

EviGaro

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Averardo resigned from the Council, thank you for all you've done and hopefully you will stick around :psyglad:

Taking his place is lighthouses ! Veteran RU presence who has played this tier in every gen and almost every tour possible, he has also contributed to gen 8 tiering previously by taking part of the rotating Council and as a VR member in SM. As we are still going through the issues provided by the second DLC, we feel his experimented presence will help us deal with that for the betterment of the community as a whole. We're still looking for newer people to take another step though, so look forward to the VR thread and C&C resuming in the near future!
 
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