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So Farfetch'd worked (and, from my experience, my Geodude, Corsola and Meowth) because you bred with a Ditto. Growlithe isnt working because the father doesnt pass it without Ditto
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Has Smogon discussed this?
I am unsure if you are aware but DaWoblefet is like... one of Showdown admins
There hasn't been discussion about it here but i'm quite confident the devs of the simulator are aware of that interaction
part of me really wants to test if shelter has some hidden effect but I can't test half the things I want to test
tested if there are any effects going first, there are none
going second, none
other stuff i want to test is if it had any interaction with secondary effects, and if it has any effect towards status effects and finally if it does anything with stat changes
answers are likely going to be "it really is just a worse acid armor" but I still want to test it cause its weird for one of the hisui moves to be a worse version of an already existing move
tested if there are any effects going first, there are none
going second, none
other stuff i want to test is if it had any interaction with secondary effects, and if it has any effect towards status effects and finally if it does anything with stat changes
answers are likely going to be "it really is just a worse acid armor" but I still want to test it cause its weird for one of the hisui moves to be a worse version of an already existing move
I would like someone to double check my maths, 'cause it looks like Transistor has been nerfed (I'm also unable to check Dragon Maw myself, not owning a Regidrago)
I had a lv31 Ditto transform into my Eleki (299 Spa, 137 SpDef) and then let it thunderbolt me 5 times
The damage values where 49, 50, 48, 48, 48
(clip of the first dmg roll )
But when I tried to work out the expected damage, in a very basic spreadsheet, with transistor set to x1.5, I calced it to be 53 on the minimum roll
But 46 was the min roll when I tried setting the multiplier to ~1.3x (same as sheer force)
edit: adding link to the sheet that has some sample rolls against wild ditto of various levels
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pH-iDjDsVWn3PJFlEbEEhBawmF7yIlo0c6hQqbjoLko/edit?usp=sharing
I had a lv31 Ditto transform into my Eleki (299 Spa, 137 SpDef) and then let it thunderbolt me 5 times
The damage values where 49, 50, 48, 48, 48
(clip of the first dmg roll )
But when I tried to work out the expected damage, in a very basic spreadsheet, with transistor set to x1.5, I calced it to be 53 on the minimum roll
But 46 was the min roll when I tried setting the multiplier to ~1.3x (same as sheer force)
edit: adding link to the sheet that has some sample rolls against wild ditto of various levels
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pH-iDjDsVWn3PJFlEbEEhBawmF7yIlo0c6hQqbjoLko/edit?usp=sharing
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I haven't played with the damage formula too much, but it looked like the formula was implemented correctly in your spreadsheet; the attack / defense calc was in a weird place but that shouldn't throw off anything with the order of operations, I think?
With your post, I copied all of the variables in your spreadsheet, tested this vs a wild Ditto with my Regidrago, and tried to see if Dragon's Maw had been potentially nerfed too. Here are my results letting it smack me with Dragon Claw. As far as I can tell, it still seems to be at the x1.5 multiplier. I hit the max damage for x.15 even while testing.
I'll go out and test with my own Regieleki now to see if I'm also getting rolls in your ballpark.
With your post, I copied all of the variables in your spreadsheet, tested this vs a wild Ditto with my Regidrago, and tried to see if Dragon's Maw had been potentially nerfed too. Here are my results letting it smack me with Dragon Claw. As far as I can tell, it still seems to be at the x1.5 multiplier. I hit the max damage for x.15 even while testing.
I'll go out and test with my own Regieleki now to see if I'm also getting rolls in your ballpark.
Charlotte and I tested Transistor damage rolls in a link battle. My Cresselia's HP is 381 and its Special Defense is 303 (Calm, no EVs), and it is not holding an item.
Our rolls:
142, 147, 130, 142, 132, 130, 138, 126, 141, 127, 126, 142, 144, 126
(lowest roll 126, highest roll 147)
The damage calculator's rolls:
252 SpA Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0+ SpD Cresselia: 144-169 (37.7 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (144, 145, 147, 148, 150, 151, 153, 154, 157, 159, 160, 162, 163, 165, 166, 169)
We think this is 1.3x, but we're DEFINITELY certain it's not 1.5x any more.
I also don't own a Regidrago. TheMantyke is cool and good for testing Dragon's Maw.
Our rolls:
142, 147, 130, 142, 132, 130, 138, 126, 141, 127, 126, 142, 144, 126
(lowest roll 126, highest roll 147)
The damage calculator's rolls:
252 SpA Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0+ SpD Cresselia: 144-169 (37.7 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (144, 145, 147, 148, 150, 151, 153, 154, 157, 159, 160, 162, 163, 165, 166, 169)
We think this is 1.3x, but we're DEFINITELY certain it's not 1.5x any more.
I also don't own a Regidrago. TheMantyke is cool and good for testing Dragon's Maw.
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Just tested the Regieleki stuff with my same Regidrago spreadsheet. I have results concurrent with what you all are finding for a x1.3ish multiplier.
It looks like Transistor got arrested for speeding, but Dragon's Maw is in the clear!
Edit: Have some videos of the testing, why don't you:
It looks like Transistor got arrested for speeding, but Dragon's Maw is in the clear!
Edit: Have some videos of the testing, why don't you:
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I checked and you guys are right. Transistor's modifier is exactly 5325/4096 to attack.
Good As Gold blocks Simple Beam.
Each status has an equal chance to my knowledge, no accounting for order of roll if any though (i.e. Roll 16.67% Poison, if no Poison then roll Paralyze, etc) which could slightly skew the frequency of them over a large enough sample size.
Hello, have a very niche interaction that I wanted to look into: Utility Umbrella does NOT affect Sun-activated Protosynthesis.
edit: I'm also only seeing now that this was already answered by pyuk, oops.
A Protosynthesis user holding Utility Umbrella that uses Sunny Day or switches in on sun will display a message that Protosynthesis activated and receive a stat boost.
A Protosynthesis user that has had Protosynthesis activated does not lose the existing stat boost after receiving Utility Umbrella through Trick.
edit: I'm also only seeing now that this was already answered by pyuk, oops.
A Protosynthesis user holding Utility Umbrella that uses Sunny Day or switches in on sun will display a message that Protosynthesis activated and receive a stat boost.
A Protosynthesis user that has had Protosynthesis activated does not lose the existing stat boost after receiving Utility Umbrella through Trick.
Lv. 56 Scream Tail holding Utility Umbrella, 143 Atk stat
(Atk is its highest stat)
Scream Tail uses Sunny Day
Iron Bundle 136 HP, 133 Def stats
Psychic Fangs deal 85 damage
Calculated range without Protosynthesis: 57-67
Calculated range with Protosynthesis: 75-88
Scream Tail uses Trick, Sunny Day, Trick
Iron Bundle: 148 HP, 151 Def stats
Psychic Fangs deal 67 damage
Calculated range without Protosynthesis: 51-60
Calculated range with Protosynthesis: 66-78
(Atk is its highest stat)
Scream Tail uses Sunny Day
Iron Bundle 136 HP, 133 Def stats
Psychic Fangs deal 85 damage
Calculated range without Protosynthesis: 57-67
Calculated range with Protosynthesis: 75-88
Scream Tail uses Trick, Sunny Day, Trick
Iron Bundle: 148 HP, 151 Def stats
Psychic Fangs deal 67 damage
Calculated range without Protosynthesis: 51-60
Calculated range with Protosynthesis: 66-78
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Via Home transfer.
Nah it's reseted.
Abilities aren't reset; or in the case of BB Greninja, turned into a different species internally.
I even went to my own Battle Bond Greninja, put it in Scarlet, and confirmed that Battle Bond is not a special exception.
You can see the Arceus form on preview. I was playing a ton of link battles on switch and I was shocked to find this out. I took screenshots of this on my switch, and since I have no idea how to share these pictures I just took a picture of these screenshots with my phone:
Arceus-Normal:
Arceus-Poison:
Arceus-Fire:
(opp forfieted before sending Arceus-Fire out)
You can clearly see the different colors on preview here. Btw if anyone's up for Ubers Wifi battles contact me please!
Arceus-Normal:
Arceus-Poison:
Arceus-Fire:
You can clearly see the different colors on preview here. Btw if anyone's up for Ubers Wifi battles contact me please!
So the Urshifu thing makes even less sense then.
