SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

Gliwick

Gliwick

Worldie said:
Probably just to give a hint to the player that it's different from previous gen Hail.

Really, that's likely the reason, nothing fancy. We'll still call it hail after all anyway lol
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It wasn't necessary, there have been other moves throughout history that changed their effects but haven't been renamed
 
DiscoDucky

DiscoDucky

lydian said:
friendly reminder this region is based on BOTH spain and portugal. but pulling from brazillian culture kinda sucks because colonialism, give us our own region and have the quaquaval fella, sure, but having it be tied to the european region is just incredibly offensive and insensitive
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It's been a common theme. Skeledirge line is based off of Mexico (Spanish colony) and the Steel elephant line was based off of India, a crown colony of the UK.
 

AztecCroc

earl said:
252+ Atk Choice Band Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168+ Def Corviknight: 235-277 (58.7 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

gallade can already 2hko corv. Not sure how much relevant coverage this ability will actually boost. Turning Sacred Sword into an approximately 0-downside CC is cool but beyond that it'll probably just be relevant for Night Slash pre-home?
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Here's another calc:

Sharp: 252+ Atk Choice Band Sharp Gallade Psycho Cut vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 294-348 (96.7 - 114.4%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
vs.
Regular: 252+ Atk Choice Band Gallade Psycho Cut vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 198-234 (65.1 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

fratelli bc said:
Quaquaval is the most brazilian-stereotype inspired pokemon i've seen.
And this is weird, because Brazil has almost nothing to do with Spain. We were exploited and looted colonized by another iberic country....
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Paldea is also Portugal.
 
Mario With Lasers

Mario With Lasers

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lydian said:
friendly reminder this region is based on BOTH spain and portugal. but pulling from brazillian culture kinda sucks because colonialism, give us our own region and have the quaquaval fella, sure, but having it be tied to the european region is just incredibly offensive and insensitive
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On the contrary, I want Brazil to subsume Portugal's existence entirely
 
Worldie

Worldie

Missingno.1998 said:
Omg Auroura Veil and Snowstorm's effects together will be crazy!
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They are, but the problem is basically that...
Ice still sucks defensively. Aurora Veil was actually mostly used for non-ice pokemon and the Hail's only purpose was to enable it in gen 7/8.
Arctozolt (and to some degree, A-Sandslash and Arctovish in lower tiers) were the only real "hail abusers" that actually wanted to use Slush Rush, and even then, they still wouldn't exactly take hits well despite aurora veil due to the horrible defensive type.

Unless this gen blesses us with some strong slush rushers or buffs the ones we have (tecnically, I guess we did get a new one, tho we don't know its base stats), it's one of these "nice on paper but useless" buffs because you're still not going to use ice types with hail in order to actually benefit from it.

Sand is a bit of different story since Rock types tend to both be bulkier and their defensive type is bad but not THAT bad, and almost all rock types have naturally high defense so the spdef buffs just patches it up.

A-Sandslash and Arctozolt are still getting murdered by a random stray flamethrower or close combat, even with this buff.
 
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