Idk about "saved." It didn't ruin VGC but I don't think VGC needed saving either.
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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Can someone give me a full list of version exclusives?
Having the only broken tools to check broken doodoo does not make it any less broken
Dataminers have revealed two new ribbons in SV.
One is the usual league champion ribbon--no surprise there. There's no battle facility ribbon (mainly because there's no battle facility, period), and the ribbon for winning at PVP ranked ladder is either the same one as in Sw/Sh, or they're ending that practice entirely after just one set of game.
Instead, the other new ribbon is really wacky: Whenever you send a Pokemon out on Surprise Trade, it has a low chance (but they don't say how low, possibly 1% or 1/256) of suddenly gaining the new "Once-in-a-Lifetime Ribbon" en route to the recipient. Needless to say, people who already have a Pokemon with a lot of ribbons aren't simply going to send it out on Surprise Trade to a complete stranger with no chance of getting it back even if that low chance does pay out on that particular trade, and in practice the effect is likely to be that whenever you see this ribbon, you'll probably treat it like those blatant shiny Pokemon with .TV trainer names: an obvious hack, just throw it away and move on.
One is the usual league champion ribbon--no surprise there. There's no battle facility ribbon (mainly because there's no battle facility, period), and the ribbon for winning at PVP ranked ladder is either the same one as in Sw/Sh, or they're ending that practice entirely after just one set of game.
Instead, the other new ribbon is really wacky: Whenever you send a Pokemon out on Surprise Trade, it has a low chance (but they don't say how low, possibly 1% or 1/256) of suddenly gaining the new "Once-in-a-Lifetime Ribbon" en route to the recipient. Needless to say, people who already have a Pokemon with a lot of ribbons aren't simply going to send it out on Surprise Trade to a complete stranger with no chance of getting it back even if that low chance does pay out on that particular trade, and in practice the effect is likely to be that whenever you see this ribbon, you'll probably treat it like those blatant shiny Pokemon with .TV trainer names: an obvious hack, just throw it away and move on.
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If anyone here wants to assist with figuring out the move data fields, here is a CSV of every field: https://pastebin.com/L7aY5BAG
I played 2018 and USUM DOU and he never broke the game. VGC noobs are the reason why TFlame got nerfed and that domino effect continued to USUM BSS. Incineroar is a family man
Alright two comments:
1. They really gave the Water/Psychic fish a basically omni boost move. Interesting. It boosts Attack, SpAttack and Speed which is weird that it has an HP Draining effect when it doesn't seem much better than Victory/Quiver Dance and the mon is so weak.
2. Dondozo is my boy, but my god is it tragic. The lack of recovery is sad, and it's signature move (which it doesn't even get STAB on) only boosts in Doubles when the sushi thing is in its mouth. Very sad.
1. They really gave the Water/Psychic fish a basically omni boost move. Interesting. It boosts Attack, SpAttack and Speed which is weird that it has an HP Draining effect when it doesn't seem much better than Victory/Quiver Dance and the mon is so weak.
2. Dondozo is my boy, but my god is it tragic. The lack of recovery is sad, and it's signature move (which it doesn't even get STAB on) only boosts in Doubles when the sushi thing is in its mouth. Very sad.
That move is actually more like Shell Smash, it Sharply boosts those stats, not like Clangorous Soul which gives everything a +1
As for why it drains HP it might just be flavor reasons, considering the move's name is Fillet Away, and the mon is a fish that pelts its foes with weaponized chunks of its own body.
Thats what you get stupid fish. I should have been the only new Unaware user.
As much as i'm all about the YEP CROC hype club...
Sorry Clodsire is our lord and savior. Also chonky.
If It is a Burn Up clone it's ass
Wind moves:
Code:
Gust
Whirlwind
Blizzard
Icy Wind
Sandstorm
Twister
Heat Wave
Air Cutter
Tailwind
Hurricane
Petal Blizzard
Fairy Wind
Springtide Storm
Bleakwind Storm
Windbolt Storm
Sandsear Storm
Why not praise all three? Though it is a shame about Big Fish
Oh, come on. They finally made a Fairy attack that could compete with Moonblast—a signature move but an attack all the same—and then they made the conscious decision to shaft its PP whereas all of its counterparts were adjusted to a reasonable 10 uses. I am actually sour about this. We're past the 9-year anniversary of Pokémon X and Y, and there are still only two Fairy-types with physical STAB beyond Play Rough and zero reasons for special attackers not to run Moonblast wherever it's on the table. How did they go and introduce a new type as imaginative as Fairy, take careful pains to establish its nature in the world of Pokémon, and then royally half-ass its move department for the next decade???
This isn't even about Enamorus
- 100bp water move that has 50% chance of dropping defense
- 90bp dark move that lays down one layer of spikes
- if manages to get Sacred Sword, would get a 120bp fighting move with no drawbacks. Also Oshawott can get Knock Off with egg moves.
- 85 speed, 108 attack, decent physical bulk
- also gets Smart Strike (not boosted)
Is Samurott finally useable in OU?
- 90bp dark move that lays down one layer of spikes
- if manages to get Sacred Sword, would get a 120bp fighting move with no drawbacks. Also Oshawott can get Knock Off with egg moves.
- 85 speed, 108 attack, decent physical bulk
- also gets Smart Strike (not boosted)
Is Samurott finally useable in OU?
*lists the ludicrous amount of electric types as well as electric terrain and sun potentially being a meta staple condition*
So about that...
Would you rather we just have the broken stuff with nothing to check them effectively? Main reason I would be opposed to an incin nerf is that gamefreak can’t be trusted to make not-broken things so we end up with broken things that we inevitably need incin to check effectively
Giving Brambleghast key immunities to Blizzard, Icy Wind, Heat Wave, Hurricane, and genie moves, as well as some interesting synergies with Tailwind and Petal Blizzard.
Kilowattrel also gets to fire off boosted electric moves under Tailwind, although it likely prefers using Competitive in doubles.
Does Tailwind proc Wind Rider/Wind Power once, or is it every turn?
H.Samurott may not be OU (we'll see), but damn I am glad my favorite Water Starter actually got something after all these years.
We still haven't answered if the Ruin abilities are stat drops or auras, have we?
Pawni3, maybe Hariyama, and who else?
Wind Power text suggests it procs once for every time a wind move is used (likely not for every turn Tailwind is active), and only for the next Electric move it uses. What I'm most curious about is if Kilowattrel can self-proc with its own Tailwind- it might be a decent VGC lead in that case.
Kilowattrel might have some success. And Iron Thorns may do something
Ah I did not realize it was sharply boosted. That explains the HP drop. This fish may be decent after all