SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

Anyone here doubting the funny peach pokemon, look at this.

+2 252 Atk Iron Valiant Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gengar: 218-258 (57.3 - 67.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gengar in Grassy Terrain: 140-165 (36.8 - 43.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock, Leftovers recovery, and Grassy Terrain recovery

4 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gengar: 168-200 (44.2 - 52.6%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gengar: 108-128 (28.4 - 33.6%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

+1 252 Atk Great Tusk Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gengar: 306-360 (80.5 - 94.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

What the fuck
 

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Why would the wish granting turtle not learn Wish or Healing Wish naturally? Jirachi learns it at level 1 and 56 respectfully. Ancient Power btfo theory even more because it's a time related move. And from my understanding the whole thing with Heath was that he just made up those Pokemon instead of seeing them for real.
...so, Heath imagined those pokemon? The very thing you said got btfo? I'm confused, was the imagination theory about imagination or wish-granting?
 
Kinda weird that both of Wake's entries are in the "it's said in a book" nondescript style. Usually it's only the version exclusive's dex entry that's like that.
 
I dont know who was considering khu to be 100% gospel truth. While he is the most accurate leaker, he has gotten some stuff wrong or stuff changes in development. Lets not pretend his information isnt right like 8-9 times out of 10, even if he can be infuriatingly cryptic (snacksworth anyone?)
 
I dont know who was considering khu to be 100% gospel truth. While he is the most accurate leaker, he has gotten some stuff wrong or stuff changes in development. Lets not pretend his information isnt right like 8-9 times out of 10, even if he can be infuriatingly cryptic (snacksworth anyone?)
Khu is just an ass

He's right a lot of the time, but man do people love it when he turns out wrong cause he's very condescending.

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Can anyone confirm if water bubble still doubles water type moves? Flavor text doesn't mention it as usual but I always get nervous that its some unintended feature they fix in a later gen.
 
Ok, maybe Peacharunt isn't as bad as I assumed it'd be...

Still very disappointing though. Poison Puppeteer is still underwhelming as an ability (if it had a stronger effect outside of confusion for le funny it'd be good) and its offensive movepool sucks (lol with Nasty Plot what the fuck).
 
...so, Heath imagined those pokemon? The very thing you said got btfo? I'm confused, was the imagination theory about imagination or wish-granting?
In the theory, Terapagos grants people's wishes and supposedly the paradox Pokemon were all created by Terapagos using its wish granting powers when other characters thought of them.
It's a really dumb convoluted theory that only adds plotholes for a game meant for children. It got popular because a Poketuber made a video on it as a quick cash grab without asking why the Prof of the game wouldn't somehow know their time machine was an imagination machine. Because it's somehow easier to explain that than Sandy shocks having screws in its face in a game series where animals/monsters have manmade parts they evolved into having.
Not to mention ignoring how advertisements, merch, external media, and the game itself says its time travel. And no, the DLC1 ads said "Folktales claim Ogerpon is evil" which isn't a lie as ingame folktales do say Ogerpon is evil.
 
actually, yeah, this thing does kinda shit all over valiant doesn't it. even psyshock doesn't do much. did we finally get a genuinely consistent valiant answer?
and it has recover, too, in case someone was wondering if the lil berry was doomed to ting-lu/dondozo its way into more HP.

it also has nasty plot and a STAB combination resisted only by ting-lu, kingambit, ursaluna, alolan muk, tyranitar, and i guess also skuntank, overqwil, grafaiai and hisuian zoroark. literally all of these mons but the last one are physically oriented too, so...
 

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So looking through the Pokedex entries for Pecharunt:

"It feeds others toxic mochi that draw out desires and capabilities. Those who eat the mochi fall under Pecharunt’s control, chained to its will."

"Its peach-shaped shell serves as storage for a potent poison. It makes poisonous mochi and serves them to people and Pokémon."

So it seems Pecharunt was controlling Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti, the chains being representative of how they are bound to Pecharunt's will and are obligated to do whatever Pecharunt wants. Pecharunt created mochi and fed it to Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti and gave them their desires in the form of their powers but in turn made them its loyal servants who only do its bidding.

So in other words, this thing was the true villain of Teal Mask this whole time.
 
In the theory, Terapagos grants people's wishes and supposedly the paradox Pokemon were all created by Terapagos using its wish granting powers when other characters thought of them.
It's a really dumb convoluted theory that only adds plotholes for a game meant for children. It got popular because a Poketuber made a video on it as a quick cash grab without asking why the Prof of the game wouldn't somehow know their time machine was an imagination machine. Because it's somehow easier to explain that than Sandy shocks having screws in its face in a game series where animals/monsters have manmade parts they evolved into having.
Not to mention ignoring how advertisements, merch, external media, and the game itself says its time travel. And no, the DLC1 ads said "Folktales claim Ogerpon is evil" which isn't a lie as ingame folktales do say Ogerpon is evil.
Perhaps you should wait until we see how the story pans out before going on so aggressively.
 
So looking through the Pokedex entries for Pecharunt:

"It feeds others toxic mochi that draw out desires and capabilities. Those who eat the mochi fall under Pecharunt’s control, chained to its will."

"Its peach-shaped shell serves as storage for a potent poison. It makes poisonous mochi and serves them to people and Pokémon."

So it seems Pecharunt was controlling Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti, the chains being representative of how they are bound to Pecharunt's will and are obligated to do whatever Pecharunt wants. Pecharunt created mochi and fed it to Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti and gave them their desires in the form of their powers but in turn made them its loyal servants who only do its bidding.

So in other words, this thing was the true villain of Teal Mask this whole time.
It also means their title as the Loyal 3 remains true, just loyal towards Pecharunt.
 

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