NOC Secret Hitler Mafia - Game Thread [FASCISTS WIN]

Blazade said:
I've been pretty clear that Saber should be vigged after this claim. I would not vig you, no.

Saber, I don't think it would be very profitable to try and get into a 50/50 unless it bought you another cycle. On this particular turn it's actually the stupidest thing to do as mafia, even if it killed another person. But this is descending into WIFOM.

It's also a stupid thing to do as anarchist because if an anarchist dies they have to get to 1v1 which means winning is literally impossible.

What most people would try to do imo is aim for a scenario where they get the policies passed but somehow convince the others to let them live anyway. That's why I'm being firm here.
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i mean it would be better than just me dying for no purpose
 
Im going off memory but I believe a random liberal must vig someone after 6 fascist policies. So someone is leaving the island tonight.

I think we need a claim or two because from my POV shooting a named townie is the only really terrible outcome. If we end up shooting a VT, its salvageable.
 
AngryPidgeon said:
1 Gestapo Officer: Learn the alignment of a player | OS jailkeep

Also Id say whoever the Fascist is with this role probably knows who Hitler is by now or is very close to knowing.
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Right I've been assuming at this point that the mafia probably know each other. Remember once this role finds Hitler he can guess and invite to the discord.
 
Alright there are 17 pages and we are reaching a critical juncture.

saberslasher11 I dont think it matters who you elect as Chancellor. I fully expect that we will get 2 fascist policies today and if we don't then ???

I want to go back and actually re-read the thread since I haven't been paying the best attention. I want to try and have reads though Im not feeling my usual swagger with reads so..

CrreamyKitty you here? I would love to hear your thoughts. I know the game has been on cruise control but now is the time to make some moves.
 
i think if saber discards a lib policy as scum he's throwing, track win for fascists is NOT that consistent i'd imagine and especially at the 4 policies to 6 tbreshold, being that suspicious will just let the random townie vig you asap, so i severely doubt he is either hitler or anarchist, although i suppose gestapo isn't something i can rule out for sure.
 
Why is Hitler any different than the Gestapo here? We still need to kill both to win at this player count.

Your exact logic is the wifom reason it's not throwing. If you just let people get away with pushing bad policies it's going to incentivize then to try to get away with it.

The math doesn't work out for the mafia if they always tell the truth, and indeed, with these claims, it's essentially impossible for all our presidents to be telling the truth here.
 
Blazade said:
Why is Hitler any different than the Gestapo here? We still need to kill both to win at this player count.

Your exact logic is the wifom reason it's not throwing. If you just let people get away with pushing bad policies it's going to incentivize then to try to get away with it.

The math doesn't work out for the mafia if they always tell the truth, and indeed, with these claims, it's essentially impossible for all our presidents to be telling the truth here.
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i was reading the wrong setup doc mb, you are right about both needing to be killed, although the alt wincon does make sticking your neck out as Hitler more risky still.
Saber’s claim is highly unlikely statistically, and it is possible that one or more of the four random presidents, myself included, would have received 2 liberal policies, and honestly i’m inclined to believe that at least one of the past president’s claims are false. A total of 16% of our revealed policies have been liberal when it easily should’ve been double that.
tbh im not overly concerned if saber turns out to be a mislynch but i don’t think his policy turnout automatically implicates him here
 
Carl The Turtle said:
also what does wifom mean
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wine in front of me, off of that scene from the princess bride
"oh, would PlayerA do the mechanically correct thing, knowing it's obvious? or would they do something mechanically disadvantageous/inconsistent/inefficient, knowing that we would expect the mechanically correct thing. oh but would they think we'd think that---"
 
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