1. Trick room reverses the order of priority and speed so priority moves in trick room acts like negative priority moves outside of trick room.
No, Trick Room only reverses the move order within each priority bracket. Priority moves still go first.
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hi, new player
2 question:
first, why is the viability ranking isn't updated in 5 months? there's still kyogre in it
second, there's a way to know the meta better, other than playing and this thread? mainly because playing often takes a lot of time to find player, and when i find someone half of the time it's the same lycanroc conkeldurr offense team. Also the thread doesn't seem a easy way to understand it, since in the last 2/3 months it's slowed so much and i don't know if anything changed (plus i'm lazy
ty guys
I'm glad to see this team finally posted after running the ladder for months. I have a few questions, if you don't mind.You can look at the usage stats for Shared Power for the last month to get a good overview of the meta:
https://www.smogon.com/stats/2024-07/gen9sharedpower-0.txt
As you can see, the majority of the top 10 are used in physically oriented teams usually with priority spam, and that's why mons like Indeedee and Houndstone also rank in the top. This has been the norm for while since there haven't been any major bans and the unbanning of Dondozo and Clefable aren't likely to have much of an impact.
Now I'll share the team that I've been using for months and got to #1 on the ladder. This is a versatile team that can handle multiple archetypes and even includes the virtually never used Mamoswine.
Ground, Water, and Fire immunities plus Fluffy and Dauntless Shield allow Zamazenta to be a solid wincon against physical teams, along with Tera Steel to get past Fairies. Tera Fairy Cresselia can be a secondary wincon against Dragon spam and Mega Launcher teams. With Water Absorb, Cress resists every move boosted by Mega Launcher.
Note that Houndstone has no item, which reduces Knock Off damage and more importantly, makes it immune to Poltergeist. Otherwise this powerful Ghost move can destroy the team since it isn't affected by Fluffy.
Mamoswine shares Thick Fat, which may seem like overkill considering Heatran and Tera-Steel Zamazenta already resist Ice. But consider how common Calyrex-Ice, Cloyster, and Baxcalibur are and how their attacks get boosted by Hustle, Adapability, Technician, and even potential crits. The extra layer of defense does help. Plus, Mamoswine can come in clutch picking off weakened opponents with Ice Shard.
Berry teams can be annoying to face and usually involves a lot of PP stalling. Clodsire becomes the MVP here, Hazing away any stat boosts from opponents who set up. Fortunately, these teams are rare nowadays.
Overall, Shared Power is still one of my favorite OMs and it's in a pretty balanced state right now. Sure, facing the same variation of a physical spam team can be tiresome. But that's mainly because abilities like Hustle, Moxie, and Skill Link enable physical moves more than special ones. Getting rid of these would make the meta far more stally.
Looking at the sample teams is a good way to learn the tier, and not just in the usual "uhh just play the game" kind of way. The samples illustrate the structure of the meta pretty well.hi, new player
2 question:
first, why is the viability ranking isn't updated in 5 months? there's still kyogre in it
second, there's a way to know the meta better, other than playing and this thread? mainly because playing often takes a lot of time to find player, and when i find someone half of the time it's the same lycanroc conkeldurr offense team. Also the thread doesn't seem a easy way to understand it, since in the last 2/3 months it's slowed so much and i don't know if anything changed (plus i'm lazy
ty guys
I modified my team and added Dondozo to it
| Username | Psychic Surge | Chlorophyll | Calyrex-Ice | Ogerpon-Hearthflame |
| Bobsican | Restrict | Unban into Restrict | Ban | Keep Banned |
| vnmmv | Do not Restrict | Unban into Restrict | Ban | Keep Banned |
| KaenSoul | Restrict | Unban into Restrict | Ban | Keep Banned |
| Gimlaf | Restrict | Unban into Restrict | Ban | Unban |
Actually, there's a dumb special priority mon inSpecial teams are ruined... priority spam will murder everything and Raging Bolt can't possibly stop them all.....
, in fact Draining Kiss is compatible with Tough Claws and Technician, so Comfey can sweep offensive teams with the proper abilities, especially as Triage makes such move have +3 priority, basically outspeeding every other priority sweeper/revenge killer in the metagame.: Chlorophyll being unbanned should allow Pokemon with this ability to act as good Speed control for sun teams, in particular this can also theoretically fit in Harvest teams as well.: Calyrex-I being banned benefits fat teams in particular, as it was basically the only Pokemon that was difficult to take down by sheer bulk and could brute force past some of the bulkiest things in the metagame out of having a STAB that ignores Fluffy. Unnerve being less accessible also means that Harvest teams should be on the rise.
Yeah thats an option, just didnt want to make too many changes in one go, the Psychic Surge restrictions will most likely break some stuff but also makes a lot of stuff way less effective, I think the best way to proceed is to first decide on how strong priority will be allowed to be, then we can look into unbanning stuff that dies to that priority.
I made a comfey team that had good success. Adapt, tough claws, technician, flare boost and berserk (you can go without berserk for something like fluffy to give a little bulk to comfey) team's biggest issue was psy spam which much people didn't use on ladder. Another issue was the abundance of steel types like scizor that can take the draining kiss and OHKO in return.Actually, there's a dumb special priority mon in
Anyways, gotta make a comment on the other bans:
Given the above changes, it's fairly likely the metagame leans to priority spam and fat, and by extension there's high odds for further tiering action on other things depending on how the metagame develops.
| Username | Scizor | Comfey | Deoxys | Spectrier | Regieleki | Flutter Mane |
| KaenSoul | Ban | Ban | Unban | Unban | Unban | Unban |
| Bobsican | Do not ban | Abstain | Unban | Abstain | Keep Banned | Keep Banned |
| vnmmv | Ban | Do not ban | Unban | Unban | Keep Banned | Unban |
| Gimlaf | Ban | Abstain | Unban | Keep Banned | Keep Banned | Unban |
Well your problem is that the team isn't really centered around comfey.
It was, though? The only Pokemon that didn’t help Comfey was Jolteon, which I consider a backup sweeper given how unreliable betting all of your hopes on one Pokemon is (unless it’s WingullSpammer’s Corviknight or bust team), especially with Comfey’s horrible speed and coverage. Berserk is also just hoping that your opponent doesn’t just OHKO you with whatever normally bulky neutral or resistant offensive Pokemon they send in.
While I agree on Flare Boost not being as good as one would think in terms of supporting
Comfey, 
Kricketune would be funny if it wasn't for 
Smeargle doing the exact same thing and more.Comfey is dealing with a team with Fluffy, or is trying to beat something like 
Palafin, as merely with Adaptability, Technician, and Tough Claws, Draining Kiss has around 200 total BP, meaning that even with Fluffy or a resisted hit, it hits harder than a neutral Giga Drain. As far Specs are concerned, U-turn and Trick are also good filler options, the former allows to make advantage of well-predicted switches from the foe, while Trick hinders fat foes that may be trying to wall it such as 
Clodsire.
Because of the nature of the format some hits are there to nerf the archetype first and the pokemon itself second, the mechanic makes them less relevant as individuals and more about how they affect everyone else in the team, Chi-Yu also doesnt do much more than passing its ability, specially with how popular fire immunities are, but what they do is making every other pokemon you run 33% better, and thats enough to push multiple of them over the edge, while you can more easily wall Lando than other mons, it doesnt change the fact that its presence improves the team drastically, as it was a special attacker that could set rocks and pass one of the best abilities, if we try to balance the archetype with it then we need to nerf the archetype somewhere else, which results on way more bans as is one enabler against multiple possible partners.
I don’t see how setting up rocks and having a great ability means Landorus-I should be banned whatsoever when it usually does not serve as a sweeper due to its horrible speed and is outclassed in terms of power by Deoxys, Flutter Mane, Spectrier, and Darkrai.
