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Sharpedo (Analysis)

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no... he can't even sweep well in the OU, over half of anyone's team can take a hit from him and once he strikes without a KO he is dead. oooh ouch 95 Special and 120 physical... sure 120 is nice, not great, and where is the boost? nowhere because his movepool sucks too
 
er, he gets crunch, waterfall, and earthquake, which is all he really needs for coverage.
Please realize that if sharpedo had speed boost in 4th gen, it would easilly be a top OU threat, being able to take out most of the OU tier. And it still can do this.
 
and why would anyone be dumb enough to leave in their pokemon that is weak to sparpedos STAB? w/e I just don't think he is OU worthy, i mean good for you guys for being able to keep this thread alive and having the moderator's give you some slack
 
ok, here it is.
The QC members who are more qualified to make the decision than you or I decided that it is worthy for an OU analysis. You are not on QC, nor am I. So honestly, an opinion that a pokemon shouldn't be in OU (especially when it passed through QC) is just wasting time on an arguement that you will never win.
 
Sharpedo has the stats, movepool and ability to be a threat. Sure its defenses don't help but that doesn't mean it isn't viable.

Besides Sharpedo was deemed not worthy till a week ago when the QC members decided it was viable.

If you have a complaint, there's a thread on this subforum to discuss which Pokemon are worthy for OU so leave your comment there, not here.
 
Hi. This was approved a tad too hastily. The Mixed Set should be:


Sharpedo (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 148 Atk / 252 SAtk / 108 Spd
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Crunch
- Hydro Pump
- HP Fire / Ice Beam
- Protect

These EVs let you outspeed Deoxys-S and ScarfChomp after 2 boosts. I'd mention the merits of Ice Beam heavily, since it's really hitting Dragonite / Garchomp / Salamence vs hitting Nattorei. Sharpedo also needs all of the attack it can get.

Please make the change, thanks :)
 
you should mention poliwrath and keldeo as counters as the resist anything shrpedo can throw at them bar earthquake and they can use their fighting type STABs to KO sharpedo
 
genevz said:
you should mention poliwrath and keldeo as counters as the resist anything shrpedo can throw at them bar earthquake and they can use their fighting type STABs to KO sharpedo
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Keldeo isn't a counter to anything right now on account of not existing.
 
Sorry to bump this.

According to Serebii's DW moves page, Sharpedo can learn Dark Pulse as one of its Special moves (meaning if you play the mini-game well). Although this means, it will have to forgo Hydro Pump. Pick your poison?

If anyone got enough points to get to Shining Ocean now, please confirm.
 
Carvhana does learn Dark Pulse through Dream World, this is correct. However, as far as I am aware, one of the parents for Hydro Pump is Gyarados, who is also capable of learning Dark Pulse. I see no problem with trying to see if Dark Pulse will breed from Gyarados to Carvhana?

In any case, Dark Pulse is avaliable, yes, and I would generally tend to use it over Hydro Pump since Surf is an acceptable substitute, whereas Sharpedo has nothing to replace Dark Pulse except Hidden Power Dark.
 
well, Dark Pulse is not an Egg move for our friendly neighborhood jaws here, so nope =(

Nonetheless, I think even though it is illegal with Hydro Pump, Surf/Dark Pulse is a viable option.
 
Spring break = free time <3

Saying no to Dark Pulse being on the set, as Crunch hits most of the intended targets for the same amount of damage, if not more. Hydro Pump + Crunch is usually better anyway due to the amount of raw power Sharpedo is dishing out. Though, not being crippled by a burn + flinching is more than enough for Dark Pulse to get a mention in AC.
 
I've been trying out Sharpedo, and I find Magnezone and Gliscor to be good partners for him.

A Magnezone with HP Fire can trap and take care of the steels Sharpedo cant hande on his own, especially Nattorei. It also resists Grass/Electric/Bug, which is a plus.

Gliscor is very good to take out those annoying Mach Punchers that threaten Sharpedo. He resists Fight and is physically defensive. With the right speed investment he outspeeds Breloom, who additionally can't Spore him if he has activated his Toxic Orb. Conkeldurr needs a couple of Bulk Ups to harm Gliscor, which is easily stopped by Taunt. He can also hit Fighting types for super effective damage with a STAB Flying move.

Gliscor is also immune to Electric, and can hit Electrics with a STAB Earthquake.

Sharpedo also likes Toxic Spikes support, as it makes some kills easier and he can rack up some poison damage with his Protects.
 
Is Aqua jet not a viable move on the Sharpedo? It can revenge things better with it imho, or force more switches, so it can get 2 speed boosts. And even then, it can hit certain pokemon with priority, such lucario. Swords dance is also another thought.
 
Lucario outspeeds it no matter what because espeed is +2 priority. Really aqua jet has a niche but anything it does protect does better especially with things like Blaziken already moved to uber.
 
whynot scald over surf? sure, the powerdrop compared to surf or pump can be an issue, but burning switch-ins isnt that bad. with protect he can even then stall out some burndamage
 
Bakame! said:
whynot scald over surf? sure, the powerdrop compared to surf or pump can be an issue, but burning switch-ins isnt that bad. with protect he can even then stall out some burndamage
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Sharpedo has absolute shit for defences, and needs to be dishing out as much damage as possible in the shortest time.
 
Mention that Hydro Pump is almost as powerful as a 2x effective Ice Beam... So barely more power vs Thundurus.

Also, in Drizzle, (a real reason to try Sharpedo), Hydro Pump becomes a 270 base power move, and scores more KOs. Obviously mention that in Drizzle HP Fire should be replaced by Ice Beam completely, as Ice Beam hits Dragons, and Grass types harder than a resisted Hydro Pump.

Also, Aqua Jet becomes 90 Base Power, and with Speed Boost, barring Extreme Speed or Fake-out, it will always go first vs other offensive Priority moves. This could be a great asset for Sharpedo to avoid Bullet Punches, Sucker Punches, Vacuum Waves, foe Aqua Jets, and Mach Punches while hitting pretty hard off 120 Base attack. 90 Base power is nothing to scoff at, its like using a non-stab Leaf Blade...
 
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