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Scuba Diver

Scuba Diver

does anyone have some spicy TR teams laying around? Preferably with some non-standard setters and breakers, I saw a team with a crabominable and whimsicott in SPL, looked pretty cool because I hate Uxie.
 
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GMars

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Scuba Diver said:
does anyone have some spicy TR teams laying around? Preferably with some non-standard setters and breakers, I saw a team with a crabominable and whimsicott in SPL, looked pretty cool because I hate Uxie.
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I got this one audino setter spice that’s fairly decent, but it does use uxie:
http://pokepast.es/7fd0abebe11aa32d
The infiltrator chandelure has put in surprising amounts of work in a lot of matchups I’ve run across.

And here’s one very bad ghost pepper if you’re feeling truly wild:
https://pokepast.es/2f3b72e7d2d38bc5
 
Scuba Diver

Scuba Diver

astroshagger

For Defensive Zapdos (Bold nature) what is the way to go: Pressure or Static? I see arguments for both sides, but what do you guys think overall is the better choice?
 
Meliodafu7

Meliodafu7

astroshagger said:
Can anyone explain the purpose behind running a 20 Spe IV on AV magearna sets with a Sassy nature? I've seen that periodically on teams posted here
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22 IV in Sassy AV Magearna lets you underspeed -Spe Celesteela (Sassy or Relaxed) by 1 point (141 Spe Mag vs 142 Spe Celesteela), meaning it hits you first with Leech Seed and then you can Volt Switch to a partner to avoid Leech Seed Damage to your Magearna and the partner and for sure, force out Celesteela with your Koko or whatever
 

astroshagger

PrideMustang said:
22 IV in Sassy AV Magearna lets you underspeed -Spe Celesteela (Sassy or Relaxed) by 1 point (141 Spe Mag vs 142 Spe Celesteela), meaning it hits you first with Leech Seed and then you can Volt Switch to a partner to avoid Leech Seed Damage to your Magearna and the partner and for sure, force out Celesteela with your Koko or whatever
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Ah ok, so this is totally not a mandatory thing then? Just situational instances against Cele?
 
Talpr0ne

Talpr0ne

Finchinator said:
Blacephalon from B- to UR
Rises
Tapu Koko from A+ to S- - A+ A+ A+ S- A+ - stay
Clefable from A to A+ - A+ A+ A+ A+ A+ - rise
Tornadus-T from A- to A - A A A A A - rise
Hoopa-Unbound from A- to A - idk A A- A- A- - stay
Zapdos from A- to A - A- A- A- A- A- - stay
Alakazam-Mega from B+ to A- - B+ B+ B+ B+ B+ - stay
Gastrodon from B to A- (can say B+) - B+ A- B+ B+ B+ - rise to B+
Reuniclus from B to A- (can say B+) - B+ B+ B+ B+ B+ - rise to B+
Latias-Mega from B+ to A- - A- A- A- A- A- - rise
Mew from B to B+ - B B+ B B B+ - stay
Gyarados from B to B+ - B+ B B+ B+ B+ - rise
Heracross-Mega from B- to B - B B- B- B- B - stay
Hippowdon from C+ to B- - B- C+ B- B- B- - rise
Alakazam from C to C+ - C+ C+ C C C - stay
Kommo-O from UR to C- - idk UR UR UR idk - stay
Golem-Alola from UR to C- - C- C- C- C- idk - rank C-
Slowking from UR to C- - idk C- UR UR UR - stay
Virizion from UR to C- - idk UR UR UR UR - stay
Doublade from UR to C- - idk UR UR UR UR - stay

Drops
Toxapex from S- to A+ - idk A+ A+ A+ A+ - drop
Tapu Lele from A+ to A - A A A A A - drop
Kyurem-Black from A to A- - A- A- A- A- A- - drop
Lopunny-Mega from A- to B+ - B+ B+ B+ B+ B+ - drop
Mawile-Mega from A- to B+ - A- A- A- A- A- - stay
Blacephalon from B- to C+ - C+ C+ UR UR UR C+ - drop to UR
Skarmory from B- to C+ - B- C+ C+ C+ C+ - drop
Sharpedo-Mega from C to C- - IDK C- IDK UR C- - drop
Salamence from C- to UR - IDK UR IDK C- UR - drop to UR
Volcarona from A+ to A - A A A A A - drop



Clefable from A to A+ - A+ A+ A+ A+ A+ - rise
Tornadus-T from A- to A - A A A A A - rise
Gastrodon from B to A- (can say B+) - B+ A- B+ B+ B+ - rise to B+
Reuniclus from B to A- (can say B+) - B+ B+ B+ B+ B+ - rise to B+
Latias-Mega from B+ to A- - A- A- A- A- A- - rise
Gyarados from B to B+ - B+ B B+ B+ B+ - rise
Hippowdon from C+ to B- - B- C+ B- B- B- - rise
Golem-Alola from UR to C- - C- C- C- C- idk - rank C-

Toxapex from S- to A+ - idk A+ A+ A+ A+ - drop
Tapu Lele from A+ to A - A A A A A - drop
Kyurem-Black from A to A- - A- A- A- A- A- - drop
Lopunny-Mega from A- to B+ - B+ B+ B+ B+ B+ - drop
Blacephalon from B- to C+ - C+ C+ UR UR UR C+ - drop to UR
Skarmory from B- to C+ - B- C+ C+ C+ C+ - drop
Sharpedo-Mega from C to C- - IDK C- IDK UR C- - drop
Salamence from C- to UR - IDK UR IDK C- UR - drop to UR
Volcarona from A+ to A - A A A A A - drop


Rises
  • Clefable from A to A+ -- Clefable has been one of the premier Stealth Rock setters for a long time now and it is only picking up in usage as more time elapses. It has a number of relevant utility options, the ability to function as a win condition with Calm Mind, and the defensive capabilities to check a large quantity of noteworthy threats. All things considered, Clefable is one of the tier's best Pokemon and this rise may be a tad overdue even.
  • Tornadus-T from A- to A -- Ever since the Z-Hurricane Defog variant of Tornadus-T popped up in the middle of SPL, we really have never looked back with this unkillable, mono-Flying nuisance. With an insane amount of utility and unprecedented longevity for a relatively frail Pokemon, Tornadus-T is and will continue to be a superb metagame pick that is not particularly hard to fit onto teams. While it normally takes up the Z slot and also is Stealth Rock weak itself, Tornadus-T easily makes up for this with great Speed, Regenerator, Defog, and the threatening combination of Hurricane, Knock Off, and U-turn.
  • Gastrodon from B to B+ -- Everyone's favorite Slug has shot up in popularity since SPL playoffs and Gastrodon has now solidified itself as a legitimate defensive option in the metagame. Being able to check Greninja (most notably Protean variants), Tapu Koko, and Heatran goes a long way in this tier.
  • Reuniclus from B to B+ -- While seeing a significant portion of its usage on the Cdumas team that has been spammed all over, Reuniclus has been an underrated win condition for a while now and people have been finding this out and taking advantage of the fact more and more as of late, so it will move up a rank to reflect this.
  • Latias Mega from B+ to A- -- Mega Latias, much like Reuniclus, is an underrated win condition that is hard to kill. It has a number of options, even if most revolve around Stored Power and Calm Mind, and you have to often go out of your way to cater to it in teambuilding. Given how deadly it can be in the context of many games, we decided to move it up.
  • Gyarados from B to B+ -- Pretty straightforward: strong sweeper that straight-up beats some teams given the spamming of HP Ice Defog Scarf Landorus-T as the revenge killer.
  • Hippowdon from C+ to B- -- Hippowdon is crazy bulky and has been seeing quite a bit of usage on Stallish teams. Overall, it probably should have never dipped into the Cs and it is now finding its way back up with a slight rise in overall usage and defensive niche.
  • Golem-Alola from UR to C- -- Niche Steel trapper that can get rid of Heatran with a Choice Scarf equipped. Often excels the most when paired with Eject Button Toxapex and has had some success on various teams used in recent months.
Drops
  • Toxapex from S- to A+ -- Everyone's favorite unkillable bulky-water has fallen out of favor a bit due to recent metagame trends and this drop reflects that. Honestly, there is a legitimate case to drop most of S- to A+ and perhaps even remove the subrank entirely, so that may be something we consider moving forward. Regardless, Toxapex will drop for now as a reflection of it falling in overall effectiveness relative to other S- Pokemon.
  • Tapu Lele from A+ to A -- Not many people use Tapu Lele anymore. The Choice Scarf set used to run the place, but now it never surfaces anymore. Z and Choice Specs sets still are very much passable, but they are far from as common as the other A+ Pokemon and while they can be effective, counterplay has increased in usage, thus leading to a drop.
  • Kyurem-Black from A to A- -- It has been a while since Tapu Koko + Kyurem-Black ran the metagame and since then, Kyurem-Black has seen a steady decline in usage and niche. The Z set is still a surefire kill if not clicked into a Heatran or Scizor, more or less, and the LO set is a pain in the ass to handle for most teams, but Stealth Rock weakness, average Speed, and a number of other shortcomings have finally surfaced, thus decreasing the overall viability of Kyurem-Black.
  • Mega Lopunny from A- to B+ -- Mega Lopunny is always going to be a passable option, but there have not been many teams with it recently and a lot of checks and counters to it are fairly high in usage right now (i.e: Clefable). Therefore, it dropped off a little bit.
  • Blacephalon from B- to UR -- Nice prep.
  • Skarmory from B- to C+ -- Nobody uses Skarmory outside of Stall teams and even there Skarmory has not shown up on too many recent builds, so it will slowly fall off the face of the Earth as this continues to occur.
  • Mega Sharpedo from C to C- -- Nobody uses Mega Sharpedo either and there has really been no reason to either, so it drops down.
  • Salamence from C- to UR -- It was cool for a month when people spammed the DD Z set all over the ladder and even in some tournament games, but there really is none of that anymore, nor any reasons to use Salamence, so it shall drop to the realm of unviable pocket monsters!
  • Volcarona from A+ to A -- Late addition to my slate, but we all agreed it didn't see enough usage to be A+. While it is potent and has incredibly high upside, there is also an opportunity cost and when not many people want to take the risk of using Volcarona, especially given how much support it needs, it should be no surprise to seeing it drop off a little.
Sorry this took forever, but finals and being in like a million tournaments have taken up literally all of my time lately -- if you have any questions for me, ask them after this coming Monday and I will be as free as a bird (do not before then because I will very likely ignore you). If Leo, GMars, Colonel M, or Team pokepals could update the OP with these changes tonight, it'd be great -- if not, I'll get around to it tomorrow!

happy posting!
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Could a D Rank like RU be considered for Blacephalon?
 
OldAmberPlays

OldAmberPlays

Talpr0ne said:
Could a D Rank like RU be considered for Blacephalon?
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The D rank of RU is literally the "black list of the shadow realm": mons that are completelly irrelevant, but for satisfying people who wants that things ranked, they're there. Creating such a rank just for that seens like a waste of time to me. We all know that Blace is bad, it doesn't need a new rank to it.
 
AlsoLando-THasToBeBanned

AlsoLando-THasToBeBanned

david0895 said:
Woah woah woah, what the hell happened to blacephalon to dropping like than dugtrio after the arena trap ban?
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It's weak to pebbles.
It can't switch into anything due to it's nonexistant bulk and weaknesses to many common coverage moves.
107 is not fast enough - it either needs a scarf or it gets outspeed by many relevant threats such as Kartana, Tapu Koko or the Lati.
151 SpA sounds great on paper, but it doesn't have the movepool to take advantage of it - 90% of all 1825+ Blaces only run Fire and Ghost-type moves.
It's also outclassed in every kind of niche it wants to take - Volcarona is the better set-up sweeper, Volcanion is the better breaker, Latios is the better scarf trick revenge killer, and Heatran is just better overall.
Blacephalon had a lot of hype at release due to it's insane special attack and it's snowball potential, but it's shallow movepool, it's awkward speed and it's nonexistant defenses caused it to drop for six months straight from A- to Unranked.
0 Atk Ferrothorn Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 220-260 (89 - 105.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 156-185 (63.1 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
0- Atk Clefable Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 156-184 (63.1 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
0 Atk Celesteela Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 108-127 (43.7 - 51.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
64+ Atk Scizor-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 380-448 (153.8 - 181.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Zapdos Discharge vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Blacephalon: 127-150 (51.4 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Tangrowth Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 232-274 (93.9 - 110.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
 
Altervisi

Altervisi

Scuba Diver said:
Energy Ball AV Mag, hot or not?
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It is very very very specific, if you think of the usage that targets for HP [Fire] has compared to Swampert/Gastrodon it is simply better to use Fire, unless you really really struggle with Gastrodon there is no reason to use it. Swampert out speed and 80% to OHKO without rain anyway it is not good.
 
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