i say it's all just wind in sails
Post any quick questions here about team help, the tier, etc.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/initial-gen-7-uu-banlists.3591784/ + The 2 recent quickbans.Where is the current UU ban list? I haven't seen it posted in the resources thread or other threads. Thanks in advance!
Probably, the tiers just need some time to start making sense. Suicune is such a solid Pokemon defensively that even with the power creep it'll stay. Even though some compare SuMo UU to ORAS OU Suicune was still good there so I have no doubt it'll come backDo people think UU will take Suicune back this generation, or is the power creep too high? Poor thing feels uncomfortable in RU right now. It misses home.
crocune will always be an amazing late game sweeper. as far as other sets, that has yet to be determined but it's way too early to tell.Do people think UU will take Suicune back this generation, or is the power creep too high? Poor thing feels uncomfortable in RU right now. It misses home.
Hey Ernie. A lot of our IRC-esque convos happen on Discord now, IRC is fairly dead. Here's a permanent invite link for everyone: https://discord.gg/M6eNZDj -- I'll add this link to the Resource Thread now.Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I couldn't find it in the Resource Thread. Is there a new IRC chan (if that's still a thing, I'm not sure lol) or something else outside PS!?
So, both play the same role but they have some differences. Salamence has Moxie, that pairs very well with Flynium-Z, as this item gives Salamence a nice way to defeat some of its checks, like Suicune, and after one kill (that isn't hard at all if you're using Salamence) you get an Attack boost. Dragonite is a bulkier Salamence with priority, as it has Multiscale and Extreme Speed. Overall, Dragonite is better, but both are probably being banned soon.Which is considered a better mon so far Dnite or Mence ? I mean, if there was a viability list who would be ranked higher ?
Very few. The counters are Toxic Blissey, Clear Smog Gastrodon, and Clear Smog Amoonguss at full. However, Gatrodon is completely unviable and the other two are easy to wear down. Imo, the best way to play around P-Z is doing double switches and wearing it down even when it setup'd, then you kill it with priority.Is there any way to counter Porygon-Z?
Defensive Arcanine with Burn Up seems somewhat viable on paper, but in practice, it really isn't anything worth running. Like you said, you're left with 3 slots after using Burn Up, and the combination of WoW, Morning Sun, and Espeed encourages passive play from that point onward. For example, a smart opponent could decide to pivot into something with Substitute, which would leave you helpless against an inevitable sweep, even if Arcanine's Fire typing was removed following the use of a Burn Up. Keep in mind that Morning Sun only has 8 pp, so its recovery can be stalled out very easily, especially since Arcanine's natural bulk leaves a lot to be desired. I also wanted to point out that Arcanine's typing gets reverted back to Fire should you choose to switch back in after already switching out following an earlier Burn Up. Due to this, Arcanine still retains its SR weakness and is even more prone to being worn down in the future.Is a defensive Arcanine with Burn Up viable? Regular defensive Arcanine was good last gen, and now he gets a move that both gets rid of SR weakness and his poor defensive typing, leaving him with one with no weaknesses.
It uses up a moveslot, yes, but I'm exchange you get a 1-time nuke with great lasting support for the team on an already somewhat powerful defensive mon. Besides, Arcanine can make do with the remaining 3 slots fairly well packing Wisp, Morning Sun, and Espeed.