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NOC Smallstreet Mafia v2 Won by the Mafia (Clouds, Ehmcee, Dead By Daylight, Duskfall98)

StupidFlandrs48 said:
If you are town this is genuinely some of the worst play I've ever seen, and I know you don't play badly as town. This is a selfcare wagon more than anything tbh
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I usually also don't get wagonned day 1 as town, but here we are. My one bad quality as town is that I hit my panic button and get aggressive when I get pushed and that is honestly not an aspect of my game that I plan to get rid of because I think its good that I fight like hell to avoid getting lynched. It might not be the most fun thing to play against but yeah this is just how it has to be. I would much rather have a nice cool game and vibe in the thread but that no longer feels like an option when I get wagoned like this.
 
ok M2H, sorry but this posting is in very bad faith even if you are town, which is growing more doubtful each moment. regardless, voting dbd out is the play here I feel regardless, because if M2H is truly town vengeful, then we will probably lose two town d1. I repeat voting dbd out is the better play just to see if mafia picked the high power roles because mafia probably doesn't pick vengeful without doublevoter so if dbd flips town we can just kill saber tmr and m2h the day after unless someone claims bpv
ImaginaryNeon said:
All the M2H claim does is make me want to vote them more bc. then if they're town, we just get a free vig
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ok nvm this in worse faith lmao, a vig that probably blows our team up
 
M2H said:
I usually also don't get wagonned day 1 as town, but here we are. My one bad quality as town is that I hit my panic button and get aggressive when I get pushed and that is honestly not an aspect of my game that I plan to get rid of because I think its good that I fight like hell to avoid getting lynched. It might not be the most fun thing to play against but yeah this is just how it has to be. I would much rather have a nice cool game and vibe in the thread but that no longer feels like an option when I get wagoned like this.
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But you’ve never played like this before lol
 
Lechen said:
ok M2H, sorry but this posting is in very bad faith even if you are town, which is growing more doubtful each moment. regardless, voting dbd out is the play here I feel regardless, because if M2H is truly town vengeful, then we will probably lose two town d1. I repeat voting dbd out is the better play just to see if mafia picked the high power roles because mafia probably doesn't pick vengeful without doublevoter so if dbd flips town we can just kill saber tmr and m2h the day after unless someone claims bpv

ok nvm this in worse faith lmao, a vig that probably blows our team up
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I think if you wanna shoot someone who is not m2h I’m on apricity as a neutral vote that isn’t a contributing slot
 
Lechen said:
ok M2H, sorry but this posting is in very bad faith even if you are town, which is growing more doubtful each moment. regardless, voting dbd out is the play here I feel regardless, because if M2H is truly town vengeful, then we will probably lose two town d1. I repeat voting dbd out is the better play just to see if mafia picked the high power roles because mafia probably doesn't pick vengeful without doublevoter so if dbd flips town we can just kill saber tmr and m2h the day after unless someone claims bpv

ok nvm this in worse faith lmao, a vig that probably blows our team up
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Several odd things about this post
1. Why are you becoming an increasingly vocal advocate for scum!M2H while still insisting that it's not a good wagon?
2. Your reasoning for M2H being a bad vote is silly, because if M2H is town then scum almost certainly recruited a 4th, which makes it far easier for the vengeful to hit scum purely based on rand, and on top of that I highly doubt M2H and tommy are aligned.
3. Lynching saber easily on D2 is not a guarantee after losing three town and throwing the thread into scum-favoring chaos. Might as well vote them now or go for M2H because those are the actually good scumcases.
 
pulsar512b said:
What’s the DBD thing about anw
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he is public vanilla which is a likely pick for mafia in this setup, esp if the high power roles are town, which seems likely considering M2H and saber's claims, which are suspicious but links the two together so I don't feel like mafia would do that. so if dbd flips town, we can basically know saber and M2H are lying and just lynch them
 
Lechen said:
he is public vanilla which is a likely pick for mafia in this setup, esp if the high power roles are town, which seems likely considering M2H and saber's claims, which are suspicious but links the two together so I don't feel like mafia would do that. so if dbd flips town, we can basically know saber and M2H are lying and just lynch them
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interesting, and we definitely dont lose a power role
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Several odd things about this post
1. Why are you becoming an increasingly vocal advocate for scum!M2H while still insisting that it's not a good wagon?
2. Your reasoning for M2H being a bad vote is silly, because if M2H is town then scum almost certainly recruited a 4th, which makes it far easier for the vengeful to hit scum purely based on rand, and on top of that I highly doubt M2H and tommy are aligned.
3. Lynching saber easily on D2 is not a guarantee after losing three town and throwing the thread into scum-favoring chaos. Might as well vote them now or go for M2H because those are the actually good scumcases.
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1. If he is town vengeful, we lose two town tn. If he is scum vengeful, we lose 1 town, 1 mafia while not being able to confirm saber's alignment. If we vote dbd, we lose no power either way.
2. if M2H and duskfall are both town, we lose 2 town members. If M2H is scum, we trade 1-1, which is a good deal for us, but I am not sure about M2H being scum, and i feel like I rather go for the safe vote here. in fact, if saber is town and M2H is scum, we could lose our mayor.
3. We can go for saber here, but I don't have a solid read on him yet, scumleaning him though
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
what the flying f
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pulsar512b said:
But you’ve never played like this before lol
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Nope, it is pretty common for me to get aggressive and defensive in games when I'm not being heard & I usually implode and get defensive when I get pushed early:

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lovers-dance-second-date-game-thread-game-over.3666197/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...-4-deadline-june-1-at-6-pm-est.3650484/page-6
note the arguments between LN and me or oden and me in the OC

As for games that I low activity -- read mafia discord co17-g3 and co-17-g9 one where I am GF and one where I am town and I slanked both games and won both games. I can absolutely play a low activity game and still try and still win. It's not the case that I no life tryhard powersolve every single game independent of life circumstances and the fact that I came in this morning and read the thread for hours and tommy still is death tunneling me is very very very annoying and irritating. I really don't want to believe that tommy can get my slot this wrong because he used to get me right every single game.

Tommy's read on me has been trending worse over time, yet he still acts like he can 100% accurate read me with authority. For instance in the PMD game, I recall him pushing me towards mid-game and saying I was out of my meta there, because I did not have the pure tone, hypersolvey playstyle that he is used to from 2019-2020. And the PMD game is one where I think everybody here that played there would agree I was VERY solvey. So yes I am getting honestly pissed off at him. He used to claim a 100% accurate read on me and clear me d1 every game which I honestly felt insulted by but whatever. But now he uses that cred to push and sus me incorrectly most games because I am not playing the exact precise way that he remembers.
 
M2H said:
Nope, it is pretty common for me to get aggressive and defensive in games when I'm not being heard & I usually implode and get defensive when I get pushed early:

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/lovers-dance-second-date-game-thread-game-over.3666197/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...-4-deadline-june-1-at-6-pm-est.3650484/page-6
note the arguments between LN and me or oden and me in the OC

As for games that I low activity -- read mafia discord co17-g3 and co-17-g9 one where I am GF and one where I am town and I slanked both games and won both games. I can absolutely play a low activity game and still try and still win. It's not the case that I no life tryhard powersolve every single game independent of life circumstances and the fact that I came in this morning and read the thread for hours and tommy still is death tunneling me is very very very annoying and irritating. I really don't want to believe that tommy can get my slot this wrong because he used to get me right every single game.

Tommy's read on me has been trending worse over time, yet he still acts like he can 100% accurate read me with authority. For instance in the PMD game, I recall him pushing me towards mid-game and saying I was out of my meta there, because I did not have the pure tone, hypersolvey playstyle that he is used to from 2019-2020. And the PMD game is one where I think everybody here that played there would agree I was VERY solvey. So yes I am getting honestly pissed off at him. He used to claim a 100% accurate read on me and clear me d1 every game which I honestly felt insulted by but whatever. But now he uses that cred to push and sus me incorrectly most games because I am not playing the exact precise way that he remembers.
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these are old as fuck games and im sorry m2h im basing my reads off of games that happened since i was born
 
tbh if it works better I can just spin the magic wheel of justice

just completely break from my meta and we can move into the postmodern era where I reject all structure and order in my game, and become an agent of chaos and destruction.
 
pulsar512b said:
these are old as fuck games and im sorry m2h im basing my reads off of games that happened since i was born
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I have played like two NOC games on Smogon since 2020 LOL. Thats the game that I broke on mech and angleshooting and the PMD game where Tommy read me right initially and then gradually started scumreading me as town. If I didn't get nightkilled he was gonna 100% start pushing to lynch me the next day. That game I also powertowned and read Tommy as town correctly. Tommy genuinely is getting worse at reading me because he does not like the direction that my meta is progressing.
 
And again -- you were in the OC. You know that I can get aggressive and defensive while playing mafia if the gamestate is not going in my favor. That's just a personal flaw that I accept and give into.
 
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