CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 1a

What should the base type of our new Pokemon be?

  • Ghost

    Votes: 86 41.1%

  • Fire

    Votes: 32 15.3%

  • Grass

    Votes: 74 35.4%

  • Dark

    Votes: 17 8.1%
  • Total voters
    209
  • Poll closed .
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36% of Grass poke place in Tiers above UU

77% of Ghost poke place in Tiers above UU


FUCK GHOST TYPE
WE DON'T NEED IT

Smogon has lots to offer in the world of creating poke, we shouldn't make a poke a certain type just because all the nubes voted for Ghost.
 
So, because grass usually sucks we should make one?

Maybe there's a reason grasses aren't usually better than UU, nyeeeh? <<

e: Ghost/Grass would be pretty damn neat, though, by the way.
 
I'd like a grass type that can take advantage of Leaf Blade like Sceptile used to, but since his atk is mediocre, he can't get anything good off it without a SD, so I'd like to see that move make a good comeback. Besides, grass is my favorite type anyways.
 
Whew, that's really cool because I'd like to have any of these options (except for dark; and ghost only with a cool combination (i.e. no steel)). Voted grass, since fire and dark seem too far behind and ghost is a pandora's box.
 
I went for Grass. Grass types aren't nearly as appreciated as they should be.

Grass/Steel ftw!
 
C'mon, we have grassers all over the place. We get a new grass starter with every generation. It's one of the most well-combined types in the entire game, having dual types with almost everything. All this talk about the need for a "good grass type" is kinda scary. How can you get much better than what's already been done? Unless you create a "perfect" grasser, you can't do much more. I'll get excited about anything we create, but I'm a little surprised by the wave of calls for yet another grass type. To me, it's not much different than calls for a "much-needed GOOD water type".
 
I collected the following usage data from Shoddy for December. Here's all the grass pokemon in the top 150:

19. Breloom
41. Celebi
42. Roserade
53. Abomasnow
56. Tangrowth
64. Sceptile
65. Ludicolo
68. Cradily
88. Venusaur
100. Jumpluff
120. Shaymin
123. Cacturne
128. Leafeon
129. Meganium
136. Exeggutor
137. Torterra

Here's the Ghosts in the top 150:

3. Gengar
22. Dusknoir
43. Spiritomb
55. Froslass
59. Mismagius
85. Rotom
116. Shedinja
125. Drifblim

I agree that it seems that grass is unappreciated, mainly because the most OU grasser is Breloom, and it barely cracked the top 20. But, as I look at the rest of the list, I am reminded of all the various grassers that are playable. The ghost list had no surprises for me, except maybe Shedinja.
 
Well damn, it's tied up 29-29 for ghost/grass. :x

I'm liking Grass for the fact that it'll take some ingenuity on our behalf to get a good concept of him down if it is a new dual type.
 
36% of Grass poke place in Tiers above UU

77% of Ghost poke place in Tiers above UU
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there are 26 fully evolved grass types

there are 11 fully evolved ghost types

you are a retard

i didnt include giratina or arceus nigga
 
lets see, so we have something like only 4 grasses in OU, breloom and abomasnow have only one common use. that leaves roserade and celebi.
yup. we have grasses all over the place. do we have good ones? no, but the point is we have them. any good grass type?
abomasnow- 4X fire, 2X fighting, flying, bug, rock, steel
breloom- 4X flying, 2X fire, ice, psychic
Roserade-2X fire, ice, flying, psychic
Celebi (AKA I have 7 weaknesses)-4X bug, 2X fire, ice, poison, flying, ghost, dark
yeah, these all seem good, with only one not having a 4X weakness.

also, thats 15 grasses out of 26 FE, and 7 out of 10 for ghosts. the only FE ghosts not used were sableye, who has horrible base stats, and a crap ability, and banette, who is in desperate need of en evo.

so more grasses are used total due to there being tons of grasses to choose from, but more ghosts are used out of all usable ghosts.

EDIT: hey gormenghast, i only counted 10 ghosts. did you include giratina or did i mess up.
 
Grass and Ghost tie again at 31 votes each... Honestly I wouldn't mind a Ghost/Grass but I'm still hoping for a cool undead fishy in the form of Ghost/Water.
 
kusaninja said:
also, thats 15 grasses out of 26 FE, and 7 out of 10 for ghosts. the only FE ghosts not used were sableye, who has horrible base stats, and a crap ability, and banette, who is in desperate need of en evo.

so more grasses are used total, but more ghosts are used out of all usable ghosts.
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Agreed that the few ghosts we have are almost all used regularly. Also agreed that we have tons of useless grass pokes.

But, aside from a unique type combination, can we really do anything different with grass? We already have sweepers and walls... physical, special, mixed... support and tanks... there's a grass type for everything. Can we do one of these better? Probably. But will it be THAT much different? I don't think so.

With ghost, I think we have a better chance of creating something truly new.

Based on this poll so far, I wonder if Ghost/Grass will be the ultimate winner? If that happens, I guess everybody wins. That would be cool. With all the Jack-O-Lanturn and Scarecrow talk earlier, the design could be cool as well....
 
wow, each time i refresh, they always seem to be tied at the next number.
this is getting intense. i really want grass to win. we need better ones.

EDIT: yeah, i agree doug. a ghost/grass would be cool. i just want one that isnt weak to fire or ice and can sweep. all that leaves is grass/rock. i mean, cradily is cool and all, but hes a wall. a grass sweeper that can effectively use leaf blade and stone edge would be cool, IMO.
 
you know you people voting grass in hopes of grass/fire could vote fire in hopes of getting fire/grass lol
 
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