Special Sweeping...Scizor? what? An OU RMT

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Well I had a very strange idea and that was to use a scizor to sweep through a team...with special based attacks. I realize there are many many counters to this sort of team (baton passing). But, I'm tired of the same old copy paste choice band scizor so I made this team up in a couple minutes and a lot of the builds are directly from the strategydex. I do not use shoddy and I don't have platnium so no rotom appliances for me. Here's the team.

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@ Light Clay
Levitate
EV's: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Speed
Nature: Jolly
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Explosion
-Taunt
Ok as recommended by CarbonSJolteon this is lead duel screen Azelf. The taunt is my preference as the last move because i got stomped by a lead Skarmory who just had fun setting up 3 layers of spike and whirlwinding me out. Explosion is for when i get outsped and taunted or I'm getting really mad and feel like making small pants monsters explode on my command. The EVs are perfect for it's use it's actually surprisingly bulky with the 252 hp and fast enough to taunt with 252 speed. Item of choice is of course Light Clay which I found out was enough to just give Scizor 1 turn of protection sad but true. I've been suggested multiple times to try out Mr.Mime as the duel screener, so this might be tested soon if someone could recommend a proper build to me but for times sake I'll use one from the strategydex.


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@ Left Overs
Serene Grace
EVs: 252 hp / 64 SP def / 192 Speed
Nature: Calm
-Nasty Plot
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Air Slash
Pretty much stolen right from the strategydex. When I was making this team I knew that Scizor's appauling 55 base special attack needed at least one nasty plot to be decent at all so I chose togekiss because it compliments scizor pretty well and gets its job done. The EVs are to outpace taunters that should come around and get out as quick as possible. This is one of the few pokes who can baton pass a nasty plot and i think he's pretty good at it. Since my lead is cresselia there's little doubt in my mind that Rocks will be up so the lunar dance heals it up. Pretty much straight forward, and after setting up togekiss switches to...

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@Leftovers
Sand Veil
EVs: 252 hp / 196 SP def / 60 Speed
Nature: Timid
-Rock Polish
-Taunt
-Baton Pass
-Stealth Rock
Yeah my taunter and the second part of the baton pass chain. Compliments a lot of members on my team and should scizor go I wouldn't be without my speed boost. EVs are there to survive an ice beam when behind a screen and outpace pokemon who feel a need to set-up. With taunt I can afford to set up stealth rocks and I still get the benefit of being behind a screen and a substitute. All of these stat ups go to...

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@Life Orb
Technician
EVs: 252 SP atk / 252 Speed / 4 hp
Nature: Modest
-Silver Wind
-Ominous Wind
-Hidden Power Electric 60 power
-Bullet Punch
Ah yes this weird idea...anyway like I said I was tired of seeing Choice Band Scizor EVERYWHERE so this was my weird twisted idea. With a stupid 55 base sp atk the baton passing is crucial. EVs are obviously there to assist Scizor's pitiful sp atk and below average speed. After a cunning suggestion I almost totally revamped this Scizor now it has ominous wind for ghost switch in's like rotom appliances(they arent present in wifi matches but things like latias are) and silver wind which falls in the STAB range and gets boosted from the ever amazing technician. Thanks for the help guys. I did a little more battling and got sick and tired of easy kills that I just could not snag because it was a bulky water so I made a new Scizor (THIS WAS A PAIN IN THE BUTT TO BREED) with hp electric power 60. If Scizor should get killed...I'd be sad but I'd have back up.

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@ Choice Scarf
Levitate
EVs: 252 SP atk / 252 Speed / 4 hp
Modest (here for damage scarf for speed)
-Draco Meteor
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Trick
Oh wow this thing helps so much more than the previous Heatran it's not funny. Not only does Latias here cripple my main problem Blissey but she's an amazing revenge killer. The moveset is there for maximum coverage, surf for the fire pokemon who like to kill my poor Scizor, thunderbolt for bulky waters and gyarados who both like to set up on the rest of my team, and draco meteor for the same purpose with dragons though. EVs are for maximum attack output and ensuring that i get to cripple trouble pokemon with trick.


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@Life Orb
Blaze
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 atk / 64 SP atk / 192 Speed
-Overheat
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-U-Turn
Recognize this set? Yes it's stolen from the strategydex but I looked at most of my team and i noticed a recuring theme...NO ICE COUNTERS. So I've run an Infernape before but of the special variety and with Latias being an excellent sp attacker I opted for the physical Infernape. The Life Orb was chosen to provide a real bang for my attacks. Nature was chosen to be a perfect revenge killer. Stone edge was taken over Mach Punch to get those pesky Zapdos and hit Gyarados before I subsequently die.


This team really is gimmicky and has many counters but you have to admit that seeing a special sweeper scizor was the last thing you expected to see in your day. Have fun rating. Please don't tell me I'm stupid....this idea says otherwise but I'm a good battler who just got tired of the cookie cutter teams thrown together at a moment's notice and wanted to shake things up a bit. Don't say something like "Special sweeping scizor is pointless instead go with (insert cookie cutter build here)" I'll just ignore it. I realize that goes against the whole RMT theme but come on if Scizor wasn't a special sweeper than what's the point of this unusual RMT? I wrote this to make people laugh if anything but than look at it and say "well maybe if a monkey breathes on the moon this could work" I have several other teams that are realistic and have won many a battle, this team was made for fun on a whim and don't think of it as anything more please.

PS. Don't worry about me getting my hands on the hidden power pokemon....I know a guy.

PPS. Thanks Haunter for reaching an understanding with me

EDIT: I'm sure that after posting this and having my name next to it my team ratings will be neglected... oh well.

EDIT2: Major team editing done in bold, farewell Heatran, you didn't work as well as Latias.
 
There's no point using SpAtk Scizor. Even passing Nasty Plot, Scizor only reach 418 SpAtk, wich is pretty low considering that you need two pokemons to pass stats to Scizor. Even with +2 SpAtk and Life Orb, Scizor won't be able to KO a lot of things.
 
As Pirika said, I also agree that it is of mandatory that you switch your Scizor into the physical set. Since you planned to sweep with Scizor, make him into the Bullet Punch/Swords Dance/Super Power/Roost set.

On Heatran, you should replace Dragon Pulse with Explosion, b/c Blissey is a pretty sturdy wall that really stands in your way.

On Mamoswine, please make the switch to Jolly nature. Jolly Mamoswine will pose a huge threat to Adamant Gyarados, Adamant Lucario, and Naive/Timid Heatran.
 
Took ronin's advice and made mamo jolly and put explosion on heatran works a bit better now. Please understand that the special atk based scizor will not change to a physical based one on this team. Yeah if all you came to do was flame me and say special based scizor, is a waste dont waste you're time I dont care.

Let's see um threat list probably won't happen because the biggest one is...anything that can taunt and proceed to set up or just set up...Gyarados.

Quick Man helped my gliscor with the lefties suggestion
 
lum berry hasnt got much use on gliscor becuase it already has taunt. After a rock polish, it outspeeds the majority of OU. replace it with Leftovers please.
 
Everyone, please stop flaming him, it is his team, do not say to him you have to change it to a Phsyical set (although I would recommend it) that's like saying somebody has to change their Gyarados set because you don't like it.

Anyway, one thing I notice is, this team does get pretty weak adfter key Pokemon go down. The only thing that could patch this up is probably a Scarf-Latias.

Latias @ Choice Scarf
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Draco Meteor
Surf
Thunderbolt
Trick

Just put it over whatever you think is your weakest member. I would consider a Phsyical Scizor set, but that is obviously up to you.
 
I'll try swapping heatran for that latias Storm see how it does thanks for the rate. Kabuto, notice how gyarados comes into scizor hoping to get intimidate and weaken it to bits? Well a special scizor ruins that strategy...but with no attack that really hits him hard its a useless counter. Thanks for the tips
 
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@ Life Orb
Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SP atk / 252 Speed / 4 hp
Timid
-Flamethrower
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse
-Explosion
You re planning to have Explosion do as much as possible, am I correct?
If so, change Heatran's nature to Naive (+ Speed, - SpD.)
Given the unusualness of a SpA Scizor, I give it a 5/10.
 
thanks txr gotta go get another heatran try out a seperate nature. Thanks for my first real rate instead of just tips seriously an RMT without a rating what is that?
 
Why aren't you using Technician + Silver Wind? You might even get an all stat boost, which would be amazing and way better than just lowering an opponent's Sp. Defense. You can also use an HP Ground around 60 to get another boosted attack. With a gimmick like this, you need all the power you can get.

Oh, Scizor also gets Ominous Wind. You need this to beat Rotom-H, who can OHKO you with Overheat. Replace Flash Cannon with it.
 
Yea I love your Idea, I have some ideas though. As you aragornbird+ said you can use better moves for your Scizor Here is the moveset:

Scizor @ Lifeorb
Technician-252 Sp.Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
Silverwind-Ominous Wind-HPower Ground(59)-Bullet Punch

I'm sorry I couldn't help but put bullet punch there. It is still a great attack on scizor. and you can fake a choice band set with it that way. Also, it is good for picking off faster sweepers who think they have you figured out. Ominous Wind is for Rotom. Rotom is probably the best scizor counter in the game so you can get the drop on it. And to answer your question, Scizor does get a boost on hidden powers.

Cool team (lacking in the effective department though)
 
Yea I love your Idea, I have some ideas though. As you aragornbird+ said you can use better moves for your Scizor Here is the moveset:

Scizor @ Lifeorb
Technician-252 Sp.Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
Silverwind-Ominous Wind-HPower Ground(59)-Bullet Punch

I'm sorry I couldn't help but put bullet punch there. It is still a great attack on scizor. and you can fake a choice band set with it that way. Also, it is good for picking off faster sweepers who think they have you figured out. Ominous Wind is for Rotom. Rotom is probably the best scizor counter in the game so you can get the drop on it. And to answer your question, Scizor does get a boost on hidden powers.

Cool team (lacking in the effective department though)

definitely gonna try it out with the latias maybe. the team indeed is lacking in the *cough* effectiveness *cough* but it's so unexpected getting reactions from people in battle makes it so worthwhile.
 
i really like the special scizor.. not something you see every day...
What about replacing Togekiss with a Nasty Plot Mr. Mime?
Personally, I think one Perish Song can screw up your Scizor setup.
Also, consider Ninjask as a speed passer.
 
i really like the special scizor.. not something you see every day...
What about replacing Togekiss with a Nasty Plot Mr. Mime?
Personally, I think one Perish Song can screw up your Scizor setup.
Also, consider Ninjask as a speed passer.

The thing is perish song is non-exsistant in wifi standard play. The reason I use Gliscor over that ninjask is because I want more than one baton pass. Scizor isn't frail but he won't last forever either so having support after scizor is what I prefer and I'm thinking of running a physical based mixednape because as it stands this team is hugely weak to ice after scizor and cress are done.
 
i really like the special scizor.. not something you see every day...
What about replacing Togekiss with a Nasty Plot Mr. Mime?
Personally, I think one Perish Song can screw up your Scizor setup.
Also, consider Ninjask as a speed passer.

seriously.... this is not a BP team like yours... perish songer users dont got shit on this team... gtfo.

anyways, this team is crying out for azelf as lead instead. make azelf a dual screener, so you canr AWESOME scizor to take eartquakes better and other shit like that. you will lose some def caps that cress offers, but its worth it IMO. azelf also outruns most taunt leads like gliscor. on average, azelf is almost always guaranteed to set up at least one screen. thats good. and if you get taunted after your first screen setup, just blow up on that motherfucker.
 
If you're certain you want to use this special attacking Scizor (hint: dont), you should really consider using HP Electric or perhaps Rock since you still get walled by the numero uno Scizor counter - Gyarados. Vacuum Wave may be an interesting option over Bullet Punch to bail you out in the scenarios where you're unable to pass him Speed.
 
anyways, this team is crying out for azelf as lead instead. make azelf a dual screener, so you canr AWESOME scizor to take eartquakes better and other shit like that. you will lose some def caps that cress offers, but its worth it IMO. azelf also outruns most taunt leads like gliscor. on average, azelf is almost always guaranteed to set up at least one screen. thats good. and if you get taunted after your first screen setup, just blow up on that (expletive)
I see you forgot the set for that.
Here it is:
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Azelf @ Light Clay
Levitate/Jolly
EV's: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Speed
~Reflect
~Light Screen
~Explosion
~Stealth Rock/Taunt
The last move slot is of your own descision.
Next time, please provide the set so as not to get modded...
 
If you're certain you want to use this special attacking Scizor (hint: dont)

aw this made me giggle. Bullet punch has really faked out my opponents i dont know why but they still switch into an infernape and fail to hp ground not seeing it coming. Bullet punch is there for stab since all of the pokemon that atempt to wall scizor (except skarmory who is crippled by latias and gyarados who atm is still a major threat) fall to hp ground or if it's ghost i've got ominous wind because i've been seeing some dusknoir usage and this move has really helped me out. gonna try the azelf out since speed is never a bad thing also still have to run a physically based mixnape and see how that works. Lots of testing to do I'll return with answers or if you're feeling ballsy enough try it for yourselves on shoddy I wouldn't mind having some feedback from experience.
 
Why would you use sp atk scizor. That like asking a leopard to change its spots or a five year old to not do staring contests... it impossible and shouldn't be done. The whole passing idea could remain but I recommend changing Scizor into empoleon as he like scizor has good bulk while with the stat ups can actually rape teams. If you make the switch I would remove mamo for something else. If you keep scizor good luck
 
Why would you use sp atk scizor. That like asking a leopard to change its spots or a five year old to not do staring contests... it impossible and shouldn't be done. The whole passing idea could remain but I recommend changing Scizor into empoleon as he like scizor has good bulk while with the stat ups can actually rape teams. If you make the switch I would remove mamo for something else. If you keep scizor good luck

Someone dosen't read entire posts very well... ignored.
 
no I read them I just can't understand

EDIT: I recommend changing gliscors item to a yache berry to make sure ice isn't mean to him for a turn.
 
no I read them I just can't understand

EDIT: I recommend changing gliscors item to a yache berry to make sure ice isn't mean to him for a turn.

thats what sp def evs are for and he's gonna be under a turn at LEAST of lightscreen and he's survived ice beams before, so I might use this but I just don't know yet and it sucks especially because after icebeam or shard or whatever he's without an item entirely. So taken into consideration.
 
Lots of testing to do I'll return with answers or if you're feeling ballsy enough try it for yourselves on shoddy I wouldn't mind having some feedback from experience.

Lack of 'balls' aside, I'll take this challenge for ya. ...On my testing alt of course, don't want to destroy my rating when it's at a personal best.
 
Lack of 'balls' aside, I'll take this challenge for ya. ...On my testing alt of course, don't want to destroy my rating when it's at a personal best.

good man. I've tested it out Azelf is a better lead and use a physical mixnape in place of mamo.
 
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