Project SS OU Lure That Threat!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Choice specs Tangrowth :Tangrowth:
and
Heat Wave Tornadus-T :Tornadus-Therian:
I use the Torn T set a lot. It‘s great if you need to put pressure in Corv and it‘s good for most team types. For Tangrowth, just the fact that it usually OHKOs Corviknight makes it dangerous and ppl don’t see it coming.
 

Windingsss

shine like jewelry
is a Top Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Smogon Media Contributor Alumnus
We're a bit late, but everything is ok; thank you so much for all the activity in this thread! You guys are awesome.
Smack Down Landorus-T: 5 :landorus-Therian:
Weather Ball Landorus-T: 2 :landorus-therian:
Thunder Tapu Lele: 8:tapu-lele:
Bulk Up Urshifu-R: :urshifu-rapid-strike:
Fire Punch Dragonite: 2 :dragonite:
Choice Specs Tangrowth: 5:tangrowth:
Ribombee: :ribombee:
Weather Ball Kyurem: :kyurem:
Heat Wave Tornadus-T: 3 :tornadus-therian:
Modest Thunder Clefable: 1:clefable:
Coba Berry Buzzwole: 4 :buzzwole:
Imprison Roost Kyurem: :kyurem:
Nature Power Venusaur: :venusaur:
Burning Jealousy Grimmsnarl: :grimmsnarl:


Congratulations to HydreigonTheChild's Thunder Tapu Lele for winning this week! Your submission will be added to the Hall Of Fame once we get one :psynervous:
This weak's threat is... Tapu Fini!

:ss/tapu-fini:
Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 116 SpD / 140 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Draining Kiss
- Calm Mind

- Taunt

Tapu Fini has risen lately as a defensive threat that can sweep entire teams with its powerful mist if they arent prepared for it, while also holding strong defensive utility with its ability and powerful typing, that allows it to check the likes of Urshifu-R, Heatran and Weavile. That being said, what do you think can defeat Poni Island's Guardian?

You have 5 days to post a Tapu Fini lure. Happy posting!​
 

Katy

Banned deucer.
thunder punch urshifu

:ss/Urshifu-Rapid Strike:
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Thunder Punch
- U-turn

Thunder Punch Urshifu-R is a great way to lure in Tapu Fini, as Tapu Fini is resistant to all its moves it can use Urshifu-R as setup fodder otherwise, but with Thunder Punch it can pack quite the Punch, it can lure in Tapu Fini pretty well, and subsequently afford a safe 2HKO on it.

252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 218-258 (63.3 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Proven in this calc, Urshifu-R has therefore a way to threaten this Pokemon in the OU metagame, but also is able to threaten other Pokemon such as Toxapex and Slowbro. Furthermore it can get rid of Primarina as well. So Thunder Punch Urshifu-R isnt even that useless outside of the Tapu Fini matchup and can achieve that the opposing defensive counterplay is left weakened in the process.
 
Last edited:
Tapu Fini is a popular switch into Hydreigon, since its STAB moves do not threaten it at all. However, with a certain poison type move, it breaks through it with ease.

Introducing...

NASTY PLOT BELCH HYDREGION

Hydreigon @ Salac Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse
- Belch

This set it straightforward, you Substitute and Nasty Plot up on Tapu Fini as it will Draining Kiss you; and then the Salac Berry will activate. After this, you can Belch that Tapu Fini to hell and back!
With a Modest Nature, it ensures it to do the most damage.
 
Last edited:

Rae

valiance and vigor
is a Social Media Contributoris a Community Contributoris a Forum Moderator Alumnus
:bw/mew:
Mew @ Life Orb
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Gunk Shot
- Close Combat
- Psychic Fangs

Mew may be a bit of a surprise pick, especially since most of the time it is the Utility set, but if is able to get a Swords Dance off it is able to OHKO Tapu Fini, or 2HKO it without a boost. It’s also useful outside of the Fini scenario, being fast enough to outspeed Pokemon like Urshifu-R and Kyurem and OHKO them with a boost too!

+2 252 Atk Mew Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 386-456 (112.2 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Last edited:
:sm/toxapex:
Toxapex @ Shed Shell :shed Shell:
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 132 Def / 128 SpD
Impish Nature
- Scald / Haze
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Recover

Most people think they can use Tapu Fini and win the 1v1 with Toxapex because it has taunt. However, by running poison jab, they will be surprised to see Tapu Fini lose the 1v1. For the EV spread, you usually want some Spdef on Pex for things like this.

Let’s say you have a Pokemon countered by Fini on the field. Your opponent (of course) switches to Fini. (Misty Terrain 4 turns left.) Then you go Toxapex. They get a free Calm Mind. (Misty Terrain 3 turns left.) First you remove the leftovers so it can only recover from draining kiss. Since Misty terrain is still going, your opponent Calm Minds again. (Misty Terrain 2 turns left.)

It doesn’t matter what your opponent does from here; you’re winning the 1v1. If it scalds the entire time, you win because pex does more damage. If it uses draining kiss, it dies. If it calm minds, it doesn’t do as much damage or recover as much so it dies. Here’s a replay with an example showing how Pex hard counters Fini. This is a great set if you need a quick way to beat Fini and don’t lose much with poison jab over tspikes. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1371039536
+3 0 SpA Tapu Fini Scald vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Toxapex: 69-81 (22.7 - 26.7%) -- 34.1% chance to 4HKO
+2 0 SpA Tapu Fini Draining Kiss vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Toxapex: 34-41 (11.2 - 13.5%) -- possible 8HKO
0 Atk Toxapex Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 104-126 (30.2 - 36.6%) -- 53.7% chance to 3HKO
 
Last edited:

agslash23

Banned deucer.
Poison Jab Weavile

:SS/Weavile:

Weavile @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab

Tapu Fini is usually one of the best Weavile switchins as it resists Weavile's Dual STABs. Calm Mind Tapu Fini also doesn't mind Knock-Off due to Draining Kiss, and thus uses Weavile as setup fodder upon switchin. However, using Poison Jab, Weavile can lure in and KO Tapu Fini with ease.

Weavile can SD safely when Tapu Fini switches in, and then can attempt to OHKO it. With Hazard support, it's a guaranteed OHKO.

+2 252+ Atk Weavile Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 320-378 (93 - 109.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

While Jolly nature can be used to outspeed Tornadus-T and speed tie with other Weavile, Adamant is preferred nature here to have a better chance of OHKOing Fini. Anyway, this set acts more of a wallbreaker than a sweeper due to sacrificing Ice Shard, hence teaming up Weavile with Speed Control options like Zeraora and Dragapult is necessary.

Similarly, Weavile could use a Choice Band set with Poison Jab instead of Low Kick. This set keeps Ice Shard, thus retaining the ability to revenge kill faster threats like Dragapult. However, Poison Jab could be a horrible move to be locked into.

252+ Atk Choice Band Weavile Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 240-284 (69.7 - 82.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Finally, what makes Weavile a great lure is that it most opponents expect that Weavile has either of Triple Axel, Knock Off or Ice Shard, especially on SD sets. No one sees Poison Jab coming, at least not until they come across this post :)

Additionally, this Weavile set can act as a lure
for Clefable
 
Last edited:
1625458517989.png
@ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Draco Meteor
- Thunder
- U-turn

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Thunder vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Tapu Fini: 198-234 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Normally tapu fini can use dragapult as set up fother as after a CM shadow is a 5hko and and is a 4hko without a CM. With thunder you are able to 2hko even after a CM boost and draining kiss does not out damage thunder which leads it to be a 3hko at worst with draining kiss recovery.
 

romanji

eepy
is a Tiering Contributoris a Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnus
:bw/volcarona:
Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Flamethrower
- Psychic
- Giga Drain

Volcarona would set up a Quiver Dance as Tapu Fini switches in. On the next turn, Volcarona sets up another Quiver dance, and Tapu Fini has to set up Calm Mind or Taunt. By that point Volcarona is able to out-damage Tapu Fini and recover health back with Giga Drain and recover off the damage from Scald. Giga Drain also keeps the coverage for Tyranitar and can hit Hippowdon as well.

+1 252 SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Tapu Fini: 168-198 (48.8 - 57.5%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery (27 - 31.8% recovered)
0 SpA Tapu Fini Scald vs. +1 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 108-128 (34.7 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
Last edited:
:ss/Clefable:
Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Soft-Boiled

Bringing back lo 3a :Clefairy:, thank/hate me later :psyglad:

CM taunt :Primarina: often switches into clef, as if it's defensive it can't really so much except maybe knock, amd even if it's cm, it doesn't deal enough damage with even a predicted tbolt/thunder, as cm clef is often max health and phys def. And then it just gets taunted so CMing is not possible, so fini can use it as setup fodder.
But
Lo modest clef completely throws passivity out of the window, dealing huge damage to everything, that too, instantly. So all you gotta do is click thunder.

252+ SpA Life Orb Clefable Thunder vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Tapu Fini: 185-218 (53.7 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Have a good day:blobwizard:
 
Last edited:
:ss/Slowking:
Slowking @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Trick
- Scald
- Teleport
- Future Sight

This is a bit of heat set since a lot of the good stuff has been taken already, but whatever. CM Fini can easily switch in on Slowking and set up for free, since Slowking can’t do much to it at all, and Fini can shut down FuturePort with Taunt. The idea of Trick is to take advantage of this on the switch and cripple Fini by locking it into a single move, preventing it from setting up. This can also work against other setup sweepers or defensive mons that like switching into Slowking, such as SD Rilla and Weavile, or Ferro and Blissey. The main limitations of this set are that you have to click Trick pretty early, as Slowking hates being encumbered by Scarf itself, and an increased reliance on Regenerator for recovery since you lose Slack Off, but in practice Slowking rarely uses Slack Off anyway, so you don’t lose too much. Pretty standard Trick shenanigans otherwise, not a lot to explain about this set.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 1, Guests: 1)

Top