Resource SS OU Role Compendium

[Caionamax]

Add shuckle at sticky web and stheat rock setter

 

[Skaarlet]

Swift Swim:

Huh! you forgot seismitoad!!!

 

[TPP]

With the Viability Ranking update finally here, it's time to start updating this again. Admittedly I've been a bit busy lately, and I would like to ask you all for help with updating this. The main requirement for suggesting something is that the mon needs to be on the VR, so whatever's on the VR now should be added, and whatever is no longer on the VR needs to be removed. Thanks in advance and have a good night!

 

[JTD783]

Galarian Slowking should be added to Defensive Pivots.

Shuckle should be added to Stealth Rock and Sticky Web.

Nidoking and Nidoqueen should be added to Toxic Spikes.

Latias should be added to Healing Wish, Trick, and Choice Scarf.

Latios should be added to Special Wallbreakers, Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, Trick, and Calm Mind

Pheromosa should be added to Choice Band and Choice Specs.

Magearna should be added to Defensive Pivots.

Kartana should be added to Physical Wallbreakers and Choice Band.

Spectrier should be added to Special Wallbreakers, Choice Specs, Choice Scarf, and Calm Mind.

Zygarde, Kyurem-Black, and Landorus-Incarnate should be removed from the index.

that’s all for now, it’s 1:30 AM and I need to sleep. great work on the compendium so far!

 

[Katy]

Hazard Control:
Defog:

Other:
Knock Off (Defensive/Utility):

Trick:

Wallbreakers:
Special:

Choiced:
Choice Scarf: (single-strike)
Choice Specs:

Setup Sweepers:
Bulk Up:

Walls:
Specially Defensive:

Weather:
Swift Swim:

Snow Warning:
Slush Rush:

Other Notes: Remove Jellicent, Ludicolo, and Raikou as they aren't in the current VR.

 

[Yuy]

Can we put Latios into the trick row also?
edit: JTD783 covered a lot of it

 

[kevbad]

Magearna feels like it can be in either the defensive pivots (AV) or offensive pivots (specs/scarf). Super strong in both roles

 

[Zneon]

Okay I probably have a lot of stuff to add here and remove so this might be long.

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Stuff to add

Hazard Control:

Defog:

Wallbreakers:

Physical:

Special:

Mixed:

Setup Sweepers:
Swords Dance:

Walls:
Physically Defensive:

Specially Defensive:

Pivots:
Defensive:

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Stuff to remove
Stealth Rock:

Hazard Control:

Defog:

Other:

Trick:

Wallbreakers:

Physical:

Special:

Setup Sweepers:

Coil:

Curse:

Calm Mind:

Shell Smash:

Extremespeed:

I'll add / remove some more in the future since I don't think I have gotten to all of it yet and I feel like I've missed some but these are the most important changes to me

 

[Caionamax]

There's still kyurem black, and I request another time to add shuckle as a sticky web setter and a steath rock setter

 

[death dreigon]

Considering people r running bulky defog hydreigon that walls special threats (and also invests into spdef often) i think it should be added under the special walls category too

 

[death dreigon]

Shouldn't dnite be in physical atckers section? I think u giys missed him when his only set is physical sweeping dd set

 

[musiquepkmn]

Should there be a role for offensive support mons with moves like Future Sight?

 

[KiruxOnTheFlux]

Why Melmetal is not a Choice Band user ?

 

[death dreigon]

Remove cinderace and magearna mentions

Also add galar zapdos to offensive pivots for u turn and regieleki as well

Plus add garchomp as mixed wallbreaker and probably hydreigon as well(as superpower does sees some usage and is considered viable)

 

[Tungdil]

I have some quick observations about three Pokémon I use in my team. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not experient, so please be kind.

Can Scizor be considered a Defogger? I always use it performing this role. And what about Slowking, can it function as a Defensive Pivot, like its older brother? Plus, is Xatu a viable Magic Bounce user?

 

[AM]

I have some quick observations about three Pokémon I use in my team. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not experient, so please be kind.

Can Scizor be considered a Defogger? I always use it performing this role. And what about Slowking, can it function as a Defensive Pivot, like its older brother? Plus, is Xatu a viable Magic Bounce user?

Scizor: Can but probably shouldnt.
Slowking: Its already considered as Specially Defensive pivot unless you mean non Teleport/Future Sight.
Xatu: Not really a good mon in the first place, regardless of having Magic Bounce.

 

[Tungdil]

Scizor: Can but probably shouldnt.
Slowking: Its already considered as Specially Defensive pivot unless you mean non Teleport/Future Sight.
Xatu: Not really a good mon in the first place, regardless of having Magic Bounce.

I see. I don't want to bother, but I wasn't able to find regular Slowking in the Defensive pivot section, although I've found Slowbro and Slowking-G. Besides, Xatu is there too, but not in the Magic Bounce section, so maybe you could also remove Xatu from the Pivot section. These are my suggestions to clarify the compendium.

 

[Pissog]

This is super useful but i would add to the Heal Bell users!

 

[Katy]

Clerics and Wish:
Heal Bell:

Other:
Trick:

Wallbreakers:
Physical:
Special: (rain set)
Mixed:

Choice Item User:
Choice Band: (Bandorus)
Choice Scarf:
Choice Specs:

Setup Sweepers:
Calm Mind:
Nasty Plot:
Swords Dance:

Pivots:
Defensive:

Unrank On Certain Fields:
Wallbreakers:
Special:

Entirely Unrank / Remove:

 

[toaster04]

-> special walls

reasoning

sorta checks kyurem, switches into dragapult, became a lot more common esp in wcop and stour (also on the ladder / iterating as a whole). the effects that dragapult and kyurem put on the meta means this mon has a lot more business in the palm of its hand

-> defensive pivots (consensual in thread)

reasoning

made extreme adaptations to the metagame as the main regen water, pairs with some of the best breakers in the meta with fs + teleport. teams need to check heatran, lele, etc.

-> potentially mixed walls

reasoning

i believe thisll also deserve a mention in the thread, even with the adaptations of running helmet to punish moistshifu weav kart, it can run spdef effectively to check lele. the evs can be changed in the builder to remove some stalemates and this can be widely explored.

 

[Tysonslayer]

TPP has stepped down from Role Compendium and letting me take over now, will be working on this and will try to get this updated as soon as possible to reflect current meta. Feel free to still recommend any changes or additions necessary for role compendium while I be working on this

 

[SLDR]

I gave a rough look at the compendium and these three things stood out to me for not being included yet
Defog -> if you don't need/can't fit heal bell, Defog is the next best thing on defensive Dragonite
Choice Specs -> it's Lele and Lele does specs stuff.
Trick -> scarf trick plot is a decent set, I'm a big fan so I may be biased on this one

 

[Tysonslayer]

Alright had the time to work on this and should reflect current meta trends and usage, along with some WCOP stuff. Listing on the thread will be ordered by alphabetical order now, while there will also be a | on listings now to separate niche picks. Will be updating this as much as I can from here on out and will gladly enjoy all contributors helping or recommending any changes.

 

[agslash23]

I think Scarf can be added coz it can shred offenses late-game

 

[BitBitio]

I think Scarf can be added coz it can shred offenses late-game

bumping this because the fact that scarf lele isn’t already listed is lowkey a travesty haha, easily one of the best scarfers rn

Toxtricity absolutely should be added under Specs as well for the record