I went ahead and got pretty decently high on the suspect ladder with a ... really freaking wierd stall team that came together strangely. I don't want to necessarily call this a good team but it has a few interesting poke's in it that might otherwise be overlooked. The fact that they were able to switch into some of the top OUs and not be 2hko'd is a testemant to the teambuilding.
At a glance: Bulky Wish Pass Alomomola, anti-bisharp Defog Latias, Assault Vest Slowking, Heal Bell and SR scrappy Miltank, CM Clefable, SD Roost MegaScizor
Following this, it's time for full stall mode. I needed to find a heal beller, a deffoger, and a SR setter. I also needed pokemon that can reliably switch into threats such as charizard xy, landorus-I, thundurus-I, megagyarados, garchomp, and aegislash. Clearly it's impossible to cover every single set but I feel like I have been battling very well and surviving OU with some pretty non-standard (and maybe subpar, who knows) pokemon.
The alomomola-slowking regenerator tandem can be absolutely epic at times, and Power Gem is a sweet move, but these two leave me obviously open to rotom-w, zapdos, and thundurus. Now, both of them can take a hit or two depending on whether the offender is LO or lefties, but clearly we need some electric resistance involved, and that lead to latias being on the team. It's VERY unfortunate that I didn't fit a ground type on the team, which I absolutely will do next time.
Anyway, I wanted latias to be able to stand a chance against incoming bisharps so I gave her a colbur berry and HP Fighting, which has proven critical a few times. Focusing so much on bisharp made me reallly truly realize just how goddamn hard it is to get dark resists on a team. Bisharp unfortunately pwns faeries which leaves only fighting and dark types to possibly resist the sucker punches out there, but I haven't found such a pokemon except for sabelye, who I may use in the upcoming team. This idea may be better utilized by mew, who has will-o-wisp.
Miltank? Well, it has heal bell and SR, and I didn't want a pokemon that dies to aegislash. Miltank instead wins against some aegis variants but loses to the flash cannon ones.
Special attacks are the main problem the team has. With no chansey it takes some real team building planning to get things in order. Not much out there can switch into charizard-y for example, but with careful EVs both water types on the team can survive and hit back.
This isn't an RMT because I've really grown to see the huge issues the team has, but I wanted to point out a few stall ideas that MIGHT be able to be worked into a few niche positions.
I feel like in addition to ground and flying/levitate, a normal type might be required for stall, unless there's some magic pokemon out there that otherwise switches into aegislash with no problems. Conkeldurr maybe?
I also think that some kind of assault vest pivot is required on teams that lack their chansey, because it's otherwise impossible to prepare a team of 6 to sponge all of the outrageous special attacks running around right now.
As far as normal types go, there's not much except Chansey, Blissey, Wigglytuff, Snorlax, Meloetta, Miltank, and Porygons. I have used meloetta before, with her hyper voice that hits behind subs and her fast heal bell. I think my next team will incorporate her again. She sure fucks with aegislash, it's delicious.
I may also drop clefable because she doesn't provide quite as many switch in opportunities as I would like; once she sets up she's obviously amazing but the problem is pretty much any LO sweeper 2hkos her. She's such a nice clutch to have with the Unaware ability but I feel like such clutch could be replaced with prankster users as well.
Anyway, I've rambled on too much, and I hope people experiment with random stuff and try to find a few viable sets that have been overlooked. Alomomola is on the rise, and for good reason. She serves as the best example of a great stall pokemon that slipped through the cracks until it got rediscovered.
In the meantime I want to pose a question that has just been killing me lately.
What stally defoggers can beat the incoming life orb bisharp? Alternatively, what spinners can beat aegislash?
At a glance: Bulky Wish Pass Alomomola, anti-bisharp Defog Latias, Assault Vest Slowking, Heal Bell and SR scrappy Miltank, CM Clefable, SD Roost MegaScizor
I started with the Scizor and Clefable. Some might characterize them as bulky offense or something but I don't really want to split hairs here. They both come with bulk and reliable recovery. I refused to give either of these pokemon any team-support moves such as heal bell or defog. They are the best offensive prescence that I have and they need every single move.Alomomola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 228 HP / 140 Def / 140 SDef
Impish Nature
- Scald
- Knock Off
- Toxic
- Wish
Latias (F) @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 160 SDef / 96 Spd
Careful Nature
- Defog
- Roost
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
Slowking @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 148 SAtk / 112 SDef
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Power Gem
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Fire Blast
Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heal Bell
- Stealth Rock
- Milk Drink
- Seismic Toss
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Roost
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 212 HP / 248 Def / 48 SDef
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind
- Wish
- Protect
Following this, it's time for full stall mode. I needed to find a heal beller, a deffoger, and a SR setter. I also needed pokemon that can reliably switch into threats such as charizard xy, landorus-I, thundurus-I, megagyarados, garchomp, and aegislash. Clearly it's impossible to cover every single set but I feel like I have been battling very well and surviving OU with some pretty non-standard (and maybe subpar, who knows) pokemon.
The alomomola-slowking regenerator tandem can be absolutely epic at times, and Power Gem is a sweet move, but these two leave me obviously open to rotom-w, zapdos, and thundurus. Now, both of them can take a hit or two depending on whether the offender is LO or lefties, but clearly we need some electric resistance involved, and that lead to latias being on the team. It's VERY unfortunate that I didn't fit a ground type on the team, which I absolutely will do next time.
Anyway, I wanted latias to be able to stand a chance against incoming bisharps so I gave her a colbur berry and HP Fighting, which has proven critical a few times. Focusing so much on bisharp made me reallly truly realize just how goddamn hard it is to get dark resists on a team. Bisharp unfortunately pwns faeries which leaves only fighting and dark types to possibly resist the sucker punches out there, but I haven't found such a pokemon except for sabelye, who I may use in the upcoming team. This idea may be better utilized by mew, who has will-o-wisp.
Miltank? Well, it has heal bell and SR, and I didn't want a pokemon that dies to aegislash. Miltank instead wins against some aegis variants but loses to the flash cannon ones.
Special attacks are the main problem the team has. With no chansey it takes some real team building planning to get things in order. Not much out there can switch into charizard-y for example, but with careful EVs both water types on the team can survive and hit back.
This isn't an RMT because I've really grown to see the huge issues the team has, but I wanted to point out a few stall ideas that MIGHT be able to be worked into a few niche positions.
I feel like in addition to ground and flying/levitate, a normal type might be required for stall, unless there's some magic pokemon out there that otherwise switches into aegislash with no problems. Conkeldurr maybe?
I also think that some kind of assault vest pivot is required on teams that lack their chansey, because it's otherwise impossible to prepare a team of 6 to sponge all of the outrageous special attacks running around right now.
As far as normal types go, there's not much except Chansey, Blissey, Wigglytuff, Snorlax, Meloetta, Miltank, and Porygons. I have used meloetta before, with her hyper voice that hits behind subs and her fast heal bell. I think my next team will incorporate her again. She sure fucks with aegislash, it's delicious.
I may also drop clefable because she doesn't provide quite as many switch in opportunities as I would like; once she sets up she's obviously amazing but the problem is pretty much any LO sweeper 2hkos her. She's such a nice clutch to have with the Unaware ability but I feel like such clutch could be replaced with prankster users as well.
Anyway, I've rambled on too much, and I hope people experiment with random stuff and try to find a few viable sets that have been overlooked. Alomomola is on the rise, and for good reason. She serves as the best example of a great stall pokemon that slipped through the cracks until it got rediscovered.
In the meantime I want to pose a question that has just been killing me lately.
What stally defoggers can beat the incoming life orb bisharp? Alternatively, what spinners can beat aegislash?