That question in the survey was about Urshifu-Single-Strike (Urshifu-S), not Urshifu-Rapid-Strike (Urshifu-R)
Oops...Can I edit my survey? Single Strike wrecks everything that isn't a Fairy.
That question in the survey was about Urshifu-Single-Strike (Urshifu-S), not Urshifu-Rapid-Strike (Urshifu-R)
I don't see why you would need to prove Bax is a massive threat on both types. Pre Home Pao is a mon that should've been suspected, post home it was a mon many people wanted to look at then too. Pao however, was never seen as a threat because of it's danger on BOTH Ice and Dark, but solely from it's threat as a mon on mono Dark - where it was still largely recognized as lacking support in terms of hazard removal.So the main question is why Baxcalibur seems fine on Dragon but is perceived as a significant threat on Ice. My thoughts on this dilemma are that we should look at Baxcalibur first, and if Ice is still too powerful, then we should look to tiering action for Light Clay or Aurora Veil, but I doubt this will be the case.
I look forward to seeing how players can prove Baxcalibur is a massive threat on Dragon. I see the discussion focusing on Ice because Ice is a powerful force in the metagame, so the player base is trying to identify what makes Ice so powerful. Icy Rock and Aurora Veil are logical places to start, but we should not ignore Baxcalibur.
Ninetales-A enables broken threats. It excels at setting screens due to its speed and decent bulk, and further supports its team through threatening Water- and Fighting-types. However, it is not in of itself broken at all. Picture a meta where Ninetales-A is supporting Weavile and Cloyster instead of Chien-Pao and Baxcalibur; would you really say Ninetales-A would still be banworthy?would i be cooking if i said a9 is the most banworthy threat in ice type rn?
I am genuinely curious, if ogerpon did not exist, what type would even be able to reliably run stall?Ban all the Ogerpons, please. They are ruining the stall playstyle.
Probably Water since Ogerpon-H's ability Mold Breaker ingores Sap Sipper Azumarill. Poison is another bulkier type, however, I don't see how Ogerpon would affect stall on the type.I am genuinely curious, if ogerpon did not exist, what type would even be able to reliably run stall?
Ban all the Ogerpons, please. They are ruining the stall playstyle.
Ban all the Ogerpons, please. They are ruining the stall playstyle.
Not really sure what the "consensus" is and it's difficult to put something like a tier list together considering the meta has only been out for about 2 weeks and is pretty volatile, but I think Dark, Water, Fighting, and Ground are pretty clearly some of the best types around right now due to the numerous buffs they got in the DLC. Ice I think is a little bit more nuanced than some people say. On paper, yes Baxcalibur tears most of the meta apart; however, it can be tricky at times to actually maneuver it into a position where it can sweep due to the relatively poor support options on Ice outside of Ninetales-A, the popularity of checks such as Quagsire, Kingambit, and various faster Scarfers who can revenge kill it, and the need to use Scale Shot to reach +1 Speed if using an SD set. Ice itself is also very vulnerable to being mu fished by types like Fighting, Fire, and Bug where it really feels like you can't do anything, so I'm loathe to call it overall "OP". That being said I do think Baxcalibur is an overall unhealthy presence in the metagame that exacerbates its mu oriented issues and should probably be banned. As for the rest of the types, I feel most are more or less on roughly the same level as pre-DLC. Poison and especially Grass have significantly improved due to receiving crucial mons to patch up their weaknesses, and Flying, Ghost, and Electric have all somewhat declined due to them not receiving many new options while the rest of the types have improved around them.What is the current consensus on types at the moment? Poison got a bunch of new Mons, but I barely see replays, ice was op but there's ban talks, what about the rest of the types? It's hard to get a proper read on everything through random monotype matches
Body Press Quagsire is your friend. Vacuum Wave from Ursaluna-B and Scarf Great Tusk or Iron Treads can also revenge kill PaoAny advice for dealing with Chien-Pao with Mono-Ground? I'm using a custom Balance team I made and have refined over the course of the last couple days. Hesitant to post it since I'm hoping to go for suspect reqs with it. Right now my strategy against Pao is "hope they misplay". My team handles the Ice type well as a whole (Mamoswine is my dad) but Cheems's unfortunate Fighting coverage makes that line of defense very penetrable. Advice would be appreciated
I personally find Vacuum wave Ursaluna-BM to be the best option for non-sash Chien-Pao sets.Any advice for dealing with Chien-Pao with Mono-Ground? I'm using a custom Balance team I made and have refined over the course of the last couple days. Hesitant to post it since I'm hoping to go for suspect reqs with it. Right now my strategy against Pao is "hope they misplay". My team handles the Ice type well as a whole (Mamoswine is my dad) but Cheems's unfortunate Fighting coverage makes that line of defense very penetrable. Advice would be appreciated
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day has been positively ruined.The Baxcalibur suspect test has concluded; Baxcalibur remains legal in SV Monotype: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-monotype-metagame-discussion-teal-mask.3727849/
Looking forward to seeing discussion about everyone's thoughts on the suspect test results and the state of the metagame moving forward.