chomp is about to be uublWhat do we think about Chomp in the Home meta? I haven’t seen it much. I fear he may drop UU… we’re losing the OU staples…
chomp is about to be uublWhat do we think about Chomp in the Home meta? I haven’t seen it much. I fear he may drop UU… we’re losing the OU staples…
I started specifically prepping for gambit after the volc/urshifu bans since it was being spammed and owning the rain teams I was using. My strategy is to check it early game with defensive Zapdos (can roost off damage w/out too many supreme overlord boosts, pivot, and potentially static it) and then keep tauros-aqua healthy to check it late game. Even then, gambit still beats me end game sometimes (especially if they saved their tera) which is a testament to how ridiculous it can be.
fr ~1100 elo is insane some many people making the wildest plays. i lost 2 suspect runs because of low ladder insanitybro forgot what low ladder was like just had a good suspect run ruined by tera psychic zen headbutt defiant gambit lol
Maybe that’s why people have been so hostile lately. Garchomp being UUBL would be Smogon’s Fall of Rome.chomp is about to be uubl
Chomp was in his lowest this gen. Speed creep is too much on a mon who was "faster than base 100" in the old day now being faster is surpasing the 110 even 120 speed. In gen 8 Chomp got Scale Shot who was DD at home for him but sadly lose going into gen 9. Spikes give Chomp a new roll: a double hazzard lead but still isnt enought and Chomp was bottom 10 usage in the pre Home meta.What do we think about Chomp in the Home meta? I haven’t seen it much. I fear he may drop UU… we’re losing the OU staples…
Guess what ...Maybe that’s why people have been so hostile lately. Garchomp being UUBL would be Smogon’s Fall of Rome.
Maybe that’s why people have been so hostile lately. Garchomp being UUBL would be Smogon’s Fall of Rome.
Would it be worse if Garchomp wasn't actually banworthy from UU like Tyranitar?
Like Gren, everyone though it would get insta banned and it is kinda mid on UU.That gets me thinking, how would UU really accommodate to garchomp
Nah gren is pretty good in UU but chomp would be an okay mon tons of things to check it and scarfers as well it would be a lil difficult but nothing the tier couldn't manage (Secret agenda to give orthworm more legitimacy as a steel type lmfao)Like Gren, everyone though it would get insta banned and it is kinda mid on UU.
Just wait for the gen 4 Lets go games, they will add the distortion Pokémon (they got in Giratina's world and had to adapt to survive). They will increase its best stat everytime they make a move (like proto/quark those boost will be different and cannot be reseted or ignored by unaware), and those won't be even be the most busted Pokémon of that gen, they will be just the ultrabest/paradox of that gen.I wonder at what point powercreep will be like "oh yea genesect is a mid UU mon"
If we assume all generations to have the same level of insane powercreep as the gen 8 -> 9 transition, Genesect probably drops to OU in a generation or two. To UU'll be (if Chomp is any example) 4 generations longer, assuming Gamefreak doesn't give us like 15 viable fire types in gen 11 or something.I wonder at what point powercreep will be like "oh yea genesect is a mid UU mon"
I want someone to justify gambit being remotely banworthy and not just a genuinely good pokemonGambit is rediculous though. Almost as bad as that fat ass chump Dragonite. Though, the problem with both is…
Tera.
Ban Tera.
People overestimate powercreep tbh, even if some of it is just meming. More often than not, the most obscenely broken stuff is still broken in the following generations. It usually has more to do with mechanical changes, like Manaphy and Torn-T losing permanent rain, Cinderace having Libero nerfed, and Aegislash just getting a hard nerf to its stats. (I usually don't like the idea of testing consistent Ubers for this reason, but I wonder if Deo-D would be an acceptable presence in OU if it returns, considering Boots + all the other obscene hazard setters that are similarly consistent at getting them up) Occasionally it's like Blaziken where the meta has changed enough for it to be healthy, but Blaziken is a Gen 3 starter with balanced stats but a broken ability, while most of the other consistent Ubers are legendaries/mythicals (noob trap but it does matter in terms of BST) from recent gens which have trended towards minmaxing overall. I find it hard to imagine that Landorus-I or Deo-N will ever be okay in OU. Even in NatDex, where old mechanics are preserved and the roster is much larger, the banlist is usually the same mons + things that are uniquely broken b/c Natdex (Pult and Torn-T last gen, Wake this gen)I wonder at what point powercreep will be like "oh yea genesect is a mid UU mon"
I wonder at what point powercreep will be like "oh yea genesect is a mid UU mon"
y'all are sleeping on lead chompchomp is about to be uubl
But it loses to darts Pult, Glimm gets hazards anyway, same with Sam-h, Meow taunts and gets spikes, lead Enamorus destroys this thing, IDK, post home seems to be rough for chomp.y'all are sleeping on lead chomp
Garchomp @ Focus Sash
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
- Stealth Rock / Spikes
- Earthquake
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
It beats lead dragapult because of sash, lead glimm, lead sam-h since it kills itself after rough skin, gets rocks up consistently, hits corv, outspeeds tusk and does 80 with Draco
im trying it on another HO ive made and its working out very well. also beats lead sandy shocks which was one of my bigger problems.
Who is better option?Talking about leads, why low ladder loves Azelf so much? Not that I'm losing to it, but it seems weird when there are better options.
Meow and Samm don't care much about it and they are common since Pao's ban and may get even better if Zama is banned too. Edit: sam also doesn't care about Hatt which is a big plus.Who is better option?
Azelf has explosion with 125 base atk, which also have 125 base spa for powerful psychic chip damage and base 115 speed to outspeed common lead. look at my post on this https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-bazaar-post-home-edition.3722209/#post-9653865
Sadly HO became useless now without volcarona
I think both used on spikes HO while azelf used on screen HO. Too many dark is not good on screen since it requires grimmsnarl & kingambit, unless you use monodark team.Meow and Samm don't care much about it and they are common since Pao's ban and may get even better if Zama is banned too. Edit: sam also doesn't care about Hatt which is a big plus.