Yes, but I don't think the move is broken, more as it's uncompetitive and luck based. It seems kind of like kings rock, in that its abuser can try to use it to simply had through would-be walls. The kings rock ban is the main reason I'm saying this, since it was only really used by cloyster yet was still banned. I guess it just depends on whether or not you think its more broken that luck-reliant.
good points.
I’m all for banning specific moves, it’s okay. Really. Even if it’s a signature move. People don’t get confused by the “complexity”.
if a move, ability or item is “uncompetitive” then it can be treated on the basis of itself, regardless of whether it’s exclusive to one Pokémon or not.
this sounds very fair, rather than the way it was done in the past.
the argument will become “rage fist and last respects dont have RNG, so it’s different when it’s on a 400 BST Mon”
but then you have direclaw, kings rock, etc. which people argue are inherently uncompetitive with or without the base power taken into consideration.
baton pass and shed tail are different , apparently they’re “overpowered on enough Pokémon” to justify deleting the move from OU. A bit different .. but how do you definite overpowered enough.. pursuit had prevented ghost and psychic types from doing well in OU for years. Would you ban it in hindsight?
what’s wrong with just gauging the communities opinion on moves rather than on Pokémon, In circumstances where those are the deemed problem. If 70% of people would rather ban rage fist than the ape, or fire claw rather than sneasler, or kings rock rather than cloyster. Is it so bad?
edit: simply defining “uncompetitive” to need some condition of RNG should do the trick:
- 300 BP moves like last respects do not have RNG, so are not “uncompetitive”
- Kings rock (41% flinch on cloyster) /dire claw (16% sleep on sneasler) have RNG, and are this “uncompetitive” despite viable or non viable pokemon abusing them
in the circumstance where fire claw is deemed uncompetitive, the question then becomes: “is sneasler over the edge due to the uncompetitiveness” and then the move can be banned going forward, even if a 400 BST shitmon gets it. as opposed to last respects / rage fist, which have only the aspect of BP to consider.
This happened with kings rock, due to cloyster. Cloyster created the conditions that broke kings rock, and now precedent has established an ongoing ban for kings rock.
direclaw could be exactly the same, even if it is [currently] an exclusive move, if it took a sneasler to break it, but otherwise sneasler is fine, you can now precedent it, so even if a parasect for example got it later, it can’t use it.
is everyone about to use the slippery slope argument now, for moves like discharge, scald, etc?
. With access to the godlike ability Tangled Feet, and unlimited coverage such as double kick, giga impact, icy wind, payback, stomping tantrum, and snore just to name a few, which are complimented perfectly with the ice-psychic typing, which only has six weaknesses, which Mr. Rime’s two resistances to its own types easily make up for. Mr Rime is the real threat. 
