Goodbye mini fire Zacian, or maybe even better Zacian. Grass/Fire was a unique and cool typing
This is why people want a Sunflora evo.
Goodbye mini fire Zacian, or maybe even better Zacian. Grass/Fire was a unique and cool typing
Honestly I hadn't even thought about how Bloodmoon handles the balance/fat matchup because I've been scared to run those styles due to Hearthflame lol. What do you think helps it take over balance that standard Luna doesn't have? I imagine the lack of timer is a big help against Regen. edit: being able to hold Leftovers helps in a major way too - Luna bleeds out over time while Bloodmoon can get it back.It's a mon that completely dominates balance and needs to be put on a timer to wear down because it has no actual defensive counterplay. It's underwhelming to many because it's shaky into offense, but it has such a chokehold over any team that wants a defensive backbone that it definitely deserves a suspect imo
It’s regular Ursaluna without most of its issues, namely that Guts is a trap ability (not to be confused with trapping ability like Shadow Tag).Bloodmoon being in suspect range surprises me. The raw power is ridiculous, no doubt, but he's so slow and his SpDef is so low that I feel like it never reaches a point that it just takes over the game. Vacuum Wave is cool but as non-STAB it is not a serious option to bail you out against faster mons not named Kingambit.
Ogerpon-Hearthflame is banned from SV OU: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ogerpon-hearthflame-is-banned-from-sv-ou.3728312/
i thought so too for a while, but i'm starting to come around on bloodmoon. the calm mind sets absolutely compensate for the low spdef. it goes from 113/120/65 to an effective 113/120/106 uninvested after a single one. combined with recovery, that makes it damn hard to kill, and at +1 it's strong enough to 2hko virtually anything, including resists, with blood moon. it's like if cresselia had a gunBloodmoon being in suspect range surprises me. The raw power is ridiculous, no doubt, but he's so slow and his SpDef is so low that I feel like it never reaches a point that it just takes over the game. Vacuum Wave is cool but as non-STAB it is not a serious option to bail you out against faster mons not named Kingambit.
she girlbossed too hard, sad to seeGod forbid a woman actually succeeds at something.
It's a combination of factors. Bloodmoon 2hkos av glowking with earth power, can easily overwhelm gliscor before it can sufficiently toxic stall (not to mention it mandates toxic on glisc), obviously dismantles pex and alomomola, can beat most of fat's breakers like kingambit and pult though its physical bulk and vacuum wave. It necessitates that you trade your offensive mons (or outright lose them) in order to take it down. Not a huge deal for offense teams that thrive off of trades already, but it's a huge blow to balance teams who really need to save their wincons for the four other breakers often packed on the same team as bloodmoon.Honestly I hadn't even thought about how Bloodmoon handles the balance/fat matchup because I've been scared to run those styles due to Hearthflame lol. What do you think helps it take over balance that standard Luna doesn't have? I imagine the lack of timer is a big help against Regen. edit: being able to hold Leftovers helps in a major way too - Luna bleeds out over time while Bloodmoon can get it back.
Anyway, I appreciate everyone who participates in the surveys and I look forward to the player base to continue voicing their important opinions. Your voice matters. Thank You.
Pex doesn't get it, nor does dondozoi just remembered
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Welp, I guess I'm not playing singles anymore
Very sad. I telegraphed this move would come back. I knew it was, but I foolishly mis lapsed my judgement
I really like singles. I really do. But I guess it wasn't meant to be...
more like a man of the people who hate offense, grr, big stall wins again, smogon is allergic to fun or whatever >:(For Example, Finch our great tier leader has stated he will happily quickly ban something if it receives overwhelming support from the community, he is truly a man of the people
how often are we seeing tera dark water absorbers outside of lures for that specific manaphy set? i can't think of anyone using tera dark, say, volcanion or gastrodon for anything outside of that purpose. maybe the sires, but they much prefer unaware in general(also tera dark water absorbers eat it alive)
same here, i'm definitely starting to turn around on the mon after witnessing the full potential of what it's actually capable of. i gave it a 2 on both surveys, but if i were to be asked again, i would probably change it to a 3, and i'm in full support of a suspect for itIf there's enough support to suspect either Manaphy or Bloodmoon and the discussion is which is worse, I'd support more a suspect of Blood Moon. While I gave it a 2 on the survey and stated that felt it was dangerous but not worth a ban and that could become more manageable with time (and I was running a Balance team at the time), the following days of testing other teams, as well as using him myself (on Mono-Normal, but close enough) have made me change my mind.
I'm still unsure if it deserves a full ban, but I'd give it a 3~3.5 today and would completely understand a suspect.
Are we playing the same tier? This isn’t reflective of my experience whatsoever.The meta has devolved into rock paper scissors with weather being rock, ho being scissors, and Bo being paper