please never use this set
sincerely, dondozo enthusiasts everywhere
(we don't care bc gliscor is in the back to tox ur bitch)
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4
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sincerely, dondozo enthusiasts everywhere
(we don't care bc gliscor is in the back to tox ur bitch)
what if we innovated mono scale shot dnite with sub/dd/scale/encore
If we're going with the funny, then try:
Protect / Swords Dance / Facade / Toxic, with Tera Normal and specially bulky spread. Completely unable to harm Gholdengo and largely harmless into the steel birds, but nothing else can safely switch in. Run on a team with a Hex user or two and pretend it's primarily a support set, or run on semi-stall and pretend it's a real wincon.
Fairy types:
But anyways, the defense drops will make this Zamazenta food, especially Tera fairy zama, and literally any fairy type can wall this.
Dragonite thinks STAB is a social construct, just run the good old DD/E-speed/EQ/Encore set, it is largely harmless to gholdengo tho (with unpopped balloon). U can replace Encore with ice spinner, u can run fire punch instead of sub, really this isn’t that good of an idea.
Perhaps we do not need to discuss fire fang scale shot gliscor all weekend
you don't see true meta until like 50% of the time on 1500+ on bh ladder
Is it just me or has both this thread and the suspect thread been...quieter than it usually is? I haven't ever seen this little activity before. Is this a coincidence or is it a sign of waning interest in the tier?
Could be part of it. But I think people are either busier than usual, simply don't have anything to say at the moment, or in the case of reqs, are getting them in the background and simply not engaging in the suspect thread. Can you actually blame those people?
No lol I do not blame them in the slightest. Maybe it is also because there are 2 suspect threads and many of the more recent posts are there. I hope that is the case because though it isn't by favorite tier gen 9 ou is fun and I want to see it thrive.
I just hope this tier ends up aging gracefully, or at least well enough. As many gripes as I have with it, I don't think it's as bad as most people make it out to be, even if there's still annoying stuff here.
Also, I feel like Gliscor has a much less aggresive reaction than, say, Kyurem, since it's impact in the tier is less flashy and a lot more nuanced than " I kill stuff", so there isn't as much immediate discussion around it
The only thing I really want at this point is for maybe a darkrai and a booster energy suspect and that is kind of it. I don't have any major problems with this tier other than that (besides the sleep ban that had no vote which was bs in my opinion but beside the point) and I hope it continues to flourish as well.
It also helps that (at least from what I can tell from the qualified thread) that the discussion seems way more one sided (in favor of dnb in this case) than the kyurem suspect which was way more heated and was very close. My prediction is gliscor won't be banned (in fact it could be below 50% which wouldn't surprise me based on said one-sidedness)
Edit: All of this is at the moment of course so I could be wrong lol
I swear if a year down the road Kyurem dodges a third ban, the shitposts will be reeeeeal.
Gliscor will be to DLC2 what Melmetal was to late SS OU. I suspect a 50% banrate at most, but I can see it as low as 40%
Granted I didn't play gen8 OU (played UU), isn't Kyurem a better comparison? Controversial strong offensive threat but with clear weaknesses and defensive merit
May not be the case for everyone, but I find the ridiculously high req requirement and the shitshow of Kyurem suspect why I don't really care about Gliscor suspect anymore.
I still have some issues against it, but now it doesn't matter to me whether it's banned or not anymore.
This is just like how we talked about double kick spectrier all weekend to... surely what can be more fun than this?
Who was the mastermind to invent peak?
SS kyurem is far different from SV gliscor simply due to the function of both their offensive and defensive sets.
SV gliscor's defensive set is meant to be a spikes stacker on pretty much any archetype barring HO that can stick around and threatens most switch ins with a potential toxic, whereas SS kyurem's defensive sets lacks the same utility role in favor of being a pressure staller with very potent offenses for the role. Sure, they can both be used to whittle down teams to be cleaned up by your designated cleaner such as ival or rilla or dnite or something of that nature, but that's where the similarities end.
Their offensive sets are much more similar. SV gliscor is a setup sweeper that is great at sticking around with PHeal and great natural bulk with a solid speed stat, with its main weakness being a dependence on a relatively subpar offensive stat and a reliance on tera when compared to other mons. SS Kyurem is much more immediately powerful with two fantastic offensive stats, letting it function as a reliable attacker on both sides with solid mixed sets as well. When you boil it down, though, they're both just somewhat fast attackers that stick around.
Kyurem was banned because it was amazing at doing both things, and gliscor likely won't because it has a fair share of weaknesses that are much more abusable in SV OU than Kyurem's weaknesses were in SS OU.
No, no, I was adding on to someone's comparison between Melmetal and Gliscor. I suggested Melmetal is more similar to SV Kyurem than it is to SV Gliscor.
We could've had a Darkrai test but nah ban sleep and make Amoonguss RU, Breloom NU and Brute Bonnet ZU at a cost
Are you saying that because you actually, genuinely think Sleep is a good mechanic to keep or because Amoongus is mid now? Tell me with a straight face sleep is anything but a cheap status you throw out hoping to screw over your opp
I like cheap tactics call me a Dark type
Real gamblers fish for the Dark Pulse flinch
I accept your concession that your favorite Pokemon are hard carried by a single mechanic