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Project SV OU - Victim of the Week (Week 74: Assault Vest Hoopa-U)

Unmasked said:
Just a question, if Pokemon B knocks out Pokemon A, but faints due to recoil, can it still be considered a check/counter?
Or if Pokemon A faints to recoil whilte knocking out Pokemon B.
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This is kinda a grey area so I’ll define it here - if something can always safely KO the Pokemon while going down to recoil in a single hit then I’d say it can be a ‘check’, but I think a Pokemon shouldn’t have to be KOed even by recoil to 1v1 something it ‘counters’.
 
Check:
:sv/okidogi:
Okidogi @ Choice Band
Level: 100
Jolly Nature
Tera Type: Fighting
Ability: Toxic Chain
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Close Combat
- Gunk Shot
- Knock Off
- Psychic Fangs / Ice Punch

Jolly Okidogi outspeeds Adamant Lokix by 1 point, funnily enough.
It resists Lokix's Bug STAB.
Okidogi is only a check though, as having its Band knocked off on the switch means it can't OHKO Lokix before getting 2HKO'ed
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Tera Dark Lokix Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Okidogi: 229-270 (72.2 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Lokix Leech Life vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Okidogi: 70-83 (22 - 26.1%) -- 6.4% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Tera Dark Lokix Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Okidogi: 164-195 (51.7 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Okidogi Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 355-418 (125.4 - 147.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Okidogi Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera Dark Lokix: 710-836 (250.8 - 295.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Okidogi Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 237-280 (83.7 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 355-418 (125.4 - 147.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Okidogi Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 237-280 (83.7 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Okidogi Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 96-113 (33.9 - 39.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Counter:
:sv/zamazenta:
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Level: 100
Jolly Nature
Tera Type: Fire
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
- Body Press
- Crunch
- Roar
- Iron Defense

Zamazenta gets a defense boost on its first switch-in (Thanks a lot Zacian). So... no. Lokix will not plough through Zamazenta any time soon.
Having your Leftovers Knocked Off is only a minor inconvinience. Setting up on the switch is useless for Lokix, as it's too slow to hit you before you click Iron Defense, and Sucker Punch fails because it's a status move. Effectively wasting a turn for Lokix. If Lokix does go for Swords Dance, you get another free Iron Defense turn.
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Tera Dark Lokix Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 88 Def Zamazenta: 140-166 (36 - 42.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Tera Dark Lokix Knock Off vs. +1 252 HP / 88 Def Zamazenta: 96-114 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Tinted Lens Lokix Leech Life vs. +1 252 HP / 88 Def Zamazenta: 86-101 (22.1 - 26%) -- 9.1% chance to 4HKO
+1 88 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera Dark Lokix: 386-456 (136.3 - 161.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+3 Def Body Press destroys Loki
+1 88 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 193-228 (68.1 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+3 88 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 321-378 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+5 88 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera Dark Lokix: 896-1056 (316.6 - 373.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Zamazenta Crunch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lokix: 41-49 (14.4 - 17.3%) -- possible 6HKO
 
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Sorry for the delay, I'll be posting our next week of VotW, thanks as always for all of your submissions and votes! This week's winners are...

Check

:Slither_Wing: by Mugenman88

Counter

:Iron_Valiant: by Demon Queen
:Weezing_Galar: by toshimelonhead​

Congratulations, your sets will be added to our Hall of Fame! This week, we'll be trying to quell a storm that pairs some of its old tricks with newly-added mechanics in SV, posing a threat that not many Pokemon can answer both defensively and offensively. Now with a Loaded Dice and the threat of Tera Blast up its sleeve, what can you do to take on Dragon Dance Kyurem?

:sv/Kyurem:
Kyurem @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Scale Shot
- Tera Blast
- Dragon Dance

Loaded Dice boosts Kyurem's Icicle Spear into a deadly 100 to 125BP STAB option, dealing massive and consistent damage along with another hard-hitting multi-hit STAB option in Scale Shot that can also provide a boost to Kyurem's Speed. Tera Blast Electric gives Kyurem the BoltBeam coverage that it's always dreamed of, with Electric hitting bulky Water-types while having the additional benefit of neutralising all of Kyurem's weaknesses. This comes in exchange for a single weakness to Ground-types, many of which it can hit for super effective damage with its Ice-type STAB. Dragon Dance allows Kyurem to boost its already impressive Attack stat, and even with an Adamant nature and without full investment Kyurem can still outrun key targets before and after a speed boost. DD Kyurem is a massive threat that can devastate teams both with and without support from its teammates - can anything brave the cold and dispel this hailstorm?

Submissions are open until Saturday, December 21st at 11:59PM EST
You may submit up to 1 check and 1 counter!​
 
Check:

:sv/deoxys-speed:
Deoxys-Speed @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psycho Boost
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Trick

Deoxys doesn't need any speed investment to outrun a +1 Kyurem. With enough HP investment you can survive any unboosted hit and 2HKO with Psycho Boost. If you want to tera, you can make it a OHKO.

252 SpA Choice Specs Deoxys-Speed Psycho Boost over 2 turns vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 452-533 (114.1 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed KO in 2 turns
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Psychic Deoxys-Speed Psycho Boost vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 402-474 (101.5 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Speed: 255-300 (84.7 - 99.6%) -- approx. 2HKO


Counter:

:sv/iron-hands:
Iron Hands @ Choice Band
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Def / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
- Volt Switch

Iron Hands is bulky enough to take two hits from anything Kyurem can throw at it. If Kyurem has taken any chip damage (or hits you with Scale Shot on the switch) you can easily KO with Close Combat even if Kyurem teras; without chip damage, you have to tera to guarantee the KO.

252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 36 HP / 136 Def Iron Hands: 185-225 (40.3 - 49.1%) -- approx. 3HKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Hands Close Combat vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 746-878 (188.3 - 221.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Hands Close Combat vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Tera Electric Kyurem: 373-439 (94.1 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Fighting Iron Hands Close Combat vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Tera Electric Kyurem: 498-586 (125.7 - 147.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Check

:SV/Gholdengo:
Gholdengo @ Leftovers
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Make It Rain

Assuming Kyurem has no Dragon Dances up, Nasty Plot, then 2HKO with Shadow Ball. Kyurem needs 2 Dragon Dances to 2HKO with anything. Recover as necessary if they fail to 2HKO.

+2 0 SpA Gholdengo Shadow Ball vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 240-283 (60.6 - 71.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 112-133 (29.6 - 35.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 169-199 (44.7 - 52.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 225-265 (59.5 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 90-105 (23.8 - 27.7%) -- approx. possible 5HKO
+1 252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 135-160 (35.7 - 42.3%) -- approx. 83% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 175-210 (46.2 - 55.5%) -- approx. 7.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Counter:
:skeledirge:
Skeledirge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Slack Off
- Hex
- Torch Song

Thanks to unaware, Kyurem's boosts mean nothing. It can survive 5 hits Scale Shot, then teras into a Steel Type, burn Kyu, then heal back up. Then it should be easy pickings.

:kyurem: 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Scale Shot (5 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 165-200 (40.1 - 48.6%) -- approx. 3HKO
:kyurem: 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 103-123 (25 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
:kyurem: 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Scale Shot (5 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Tera Steel Skeledirge: 80-100 (19.4 - 24.3%) -- approx. possible 5HKO
:kyurem: 252+ Atk burned Tera Electric Kyurem Scale Shot (5 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Tera Steel Skeledirge: 40-50 (9.7 - 12.1%) -- approx. possible 9HKO
:kyurem: 252+ Atk burned Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Tera Steel Skeledirge: 51-61 (12.4 - 14.8%) -- possible 7HKO
:skeledirge: 0 SpA Tera Steel Skeledirge Torch Song vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Tera Electric Kyurem: 102-121 (25.7 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
:skeledirge: 0 SpA Tera Steel Skeledirge Hex (65 BP) vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Tera Electric Kyurem: 84-99 (21.2 - 25%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO
:skeledirge: 0 SpA Tera Steel Skeledirge Hex (130 BP) vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Tera Electric Kyurem: 166-196 (41.9 - 49.4%) -- 83.6% chance to 2HKO after burn damage
:skeledirge: +1 0 SpA Tera Steel Skeledirge Hex (130 BP) vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Tera Electric Kyurem: 249-294 (62.8 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
 
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Just on a quick unrelated note, thank you all for participating in this project throughout the year, we really appreciate your participation and support and I really hope you've been enjoying Victim of the Week!

For our more regular participants who may be interested in this, we're looking to bring back some of our other projects leading up to the new year, with some returning faces hosting but also some new. Let me know if you'd like to give project hosting a try or have any ideas for new projects that you'd like to give a go, my DMs are always open! I can't guarantee that we'll be able to get something for everyone, but I would love for people to have the chance to give hosting a go - I've really enjoyed being part of VotW thanks to you all, and I'd love to get the community involved in making the OU forums an even better place to be. Thanks again!
 
CHECK
:sv/iron_valiant:

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Jolly Nature
Tera Type: Dark
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 248 Atk / 8 Def / 252 Spe
- Knock Off
- Close Combat
- Encore
- Swords Dance

While a one-time deal with booster energy, if you can get in safely, or switch in on a DD you should be in a winning position. Thanks to Booster Energy, you always outspeed Kyurem, even after a DD, and you can just encore their DD so that you can SD to threaten an OHKO with CC after they Tera. If the Kyurem has no access to Tera you can just CC and they're out. If it's a clean switch for both you're safe to SD, Kyurem has to roll a max damage 5-hit with Icicle Spear to OHKO. The chance of OHKO with just 4 Def EVs is slightly higher, so just 1 extra point in Def is all you need to maximize your chance of living, and the lost point in Atk doesn't matter.

248 Atk Iron Valiant Close Combat vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 428-506 (108 - 127.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 248 Atk Iron Valiant Close Combat vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Tera Electric Kyurem: 427-504 (107.8 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Iron Valiant: 245-290 (84.7 - 100.3%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO
 
Check

:sv/Pecharunt:
Pecharunt @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Poison Puppeteer
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Ghost
Bold Nature
- Malignant Chain
- Hex
- Parting Shot
- Recover

With its immense physical defense, Pecharunt can stomach hits from a +1 Kyurem as Icicle Spear is a 3HKO allowing Pecharunt to be somewhat flexible in slowing it down.
+1 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 228+ Def Pecharunt: 144-172 (37.8 - 45.2%) -- approx. 3HKO
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The caveat is that Pecharunt means of dealing with Kyurem is at best either luck or context-dependent with one option being to gamble with Malignant Chain poisoning and confusing Kyurem or being able to Parting Shot to a teammate that can handle Kyurem at +0. Still, its a valuable roadblock to prevent DD Kyurem from completely running over your team.


Counter

:sv/Regirock:
Regirock @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD
Tera Type: Poison
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast
- Body Press
- Iron Defense

With it's immense defense, Regirock also only gets 3HKO by +1 Icicle Spear, but once it clicks Iron Defense, Regirock can't be killed and either kills Kyurem pre-tera or will 2HKO it before Kyurem can kill it back.
+1 252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Regirock: 132-160 (36.2 - 43.9%) -- approx. 99.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+1 252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. +2 252 HP / 16+ Def Regirock: 64-84 (17.5 - 23%) -- approx. possible 6HKO
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+2 16+ Def Regirock Body Press vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 514-606 (129.7 - 153%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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+2 16+ Def Regirock Body Press vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Tera Electric Kyurem: 257-303 (64.8 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Check:
:sv/iron-crown:
Iron Crown @ Choice Specs
Level: 100
Timid Nature
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Tachyon Cutter
- Psyshock
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast

If Kyurem's team already Terastilized you're in luck! both Tachyon Cutter and Focus Miss OHKO it.
If there's the risk of tera Electric, 2 Psyshocks take down Kyurem.
So Iron Crown is a check, because it can't OHKO Kyurem before getting overwhelmed by Tera Blast.
:kyurem:
252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 144-171 (44.8 - 53.2%) -- 31.3% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 92-108 (28.6 - 33.6%) -- approx. 0.7% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Kyurem Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 92-108 (28.6 - 33.6%) -- approx. 0.7% chance to 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Tera Electric Kyurem Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 216-255 (67.2 - 79.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
:iron-crown:
252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 508-604 (128.2 - 152.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Crown Psyshock vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 204-241 (51.5 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Crown Volt Switch vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 59-70 (14.8 - 17.6%) -- possible 6HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Crown Focus Blast vs. 20 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem: 408-482 (103 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

(wait this is probably too late either way)
 
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:sv/dondozo:

Dondozo @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera Type: Fighting
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Curse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Dondozo is a check. Switching into Tera Blast can be somewhat iffy if Kyurem has Terastallized, and its reliance on Rest for recovery means that it can be overwhelmed, but outside of that Dondozo's bulk, Curse boosts, and access to Unaware allow it to be one heck of a roadblock, especially if it can Terastallize itself to get rid of the Electric weakness. While it can't take advantage of the Defense drops from Scale Shot, what Dondozo can do is boost up and sit on Kyurem until either they switch out or Body Press becomes strong enough to KO.
 
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