OU Sword and Shield OU Discussion Thread

Kinda bored of SS rn, so ill drop some fun teams I made that i think r pretty successful for everyone to enjoy.
imo Pelipper and LO chomp r the most underrated breakers in the tier rn and i hope ppl explore them as options more.


:Tornadus-Therian: :Pelipper: :Melmetal: :Landorus-Therian: :Dragapult: :Blacephalon:
https://pokepast.es/726f37eb32ca4203 - no rocks team
fun, good match up into alot of offense and can crush fat structures with a well timed trick
:buzzwole: :Pelipper: :Melmetal: :bisharp: :Kartana: :Landorus-Therian:
https://pokepast.es/608312b8b39db4af - Choiced spam, can be CB or expert belt buzz
Fun team, baddy beat some good players like damien and won stour games with it
:zapdos: :dragapult: :ferrothorn: :tapu-lele: :toxapex: :Landorus-Therian:
https://pokepast.es/145c3e4b0f28dbd4 - status spam, hex pult
:Kartana: :buzzwole: :heatran: :Landorus-Therian: :slowking: :garchomp:
https://pokepast.es/cf04bd71bebf3b25 - scarf lando, LO chomp
U can bluff scarf kart often, and LO chomp just crushes. I hit number 1 with this a couple times during current gen and have updated it as the meta changes
:clefable: :Landorus-Therian: :heatran: :dragapult: :tapu-lele: :Kartana:
https://pokepast.es/fae64d17f9d9951f - CM clef team
This team is great at overloading steel types to get a win with cm clef, or allowing lele/pult to pick one everytime, This is the best team ive made in ages, it feels like every match up is playable, I qualified pretty easily with this for the SS ladder tour and went 28-1 on ladder when i initially made it. If you wanna win games use this
 
Been playing by mostly by stealing teams and I'm confused by why so many teams in this format feel so.... greedy? Specifically when it comes to handling Nidoking?

A lot of teams I steal feel like they get 6-0'd by that guy between running mons that get goobed like Heatran, Clefable, Melmetal, slow Garchomp and Landorus-T etc. and seem like they actively try making their match-up worse vs that Pokemon by running suboptimal choices like Modest Lele so that they get outsped and OHKO'd.... I'm not sure what exactly one can do to "play around it" when 5/6 pokemon used on these teams just get outsped and lose to it. Shouldn't measures be taken to account such Pokemon in the builder on balances teams, espicially given how difficult it can be to handle?
 
Been playing by mostly by stealing teams and I'm confused by why so many teams in this format feel so.... greedy? Specifically when it comes to handling Nidoking?

A lot of teams I steal feel like they get 6-0'd by that guy between running mons that get goobed like Heatran, Clefable, Melmetal, slow Garchomp and Landorus-T etc. and seem like they actively try making their match-up worse vs that Pokemon by running suboptimal choices like Modest Lele so that they get outsped and OHKO'd.... I'm not sure what exactly one can do to "play around it" when 5/6 pokemon used on these teams just get outsped and lose to it. Shouldn't measures be taken to account such Pokemon in the builder on balances teams, espicially given how difficult it can be to handle?
It's likely because Nidoking isn't the most common in the meta so they feel they can get away with loosing to it. Not saying this is a good thing.
 
A Sword and Shield Farm League is tentatively scheduled to be held this autumn to provide players more opportunities to play SS OU games in a tournament setting! Please contact me if you're interested in captaining a team, as we need users who are capable of managing a variety of players (from experienced to being new to the tier) throughout the course of a season :sphearical:.
 
A Sword and Shield Farm League is tentatively scheduled to be held this autumn to provide players more opportunities to play SS OU games in a tournament setting! Please contact me if you're interested in captaining a team, as we need users who are capable of managing a variety of players (from experienced to being new to the tier) throughout the course of a season :sphearical:.
Bumping this - we'd like a few more captain pairings before we move to player signups!

Edit: Managing will not prevent you from playing in this tournament!
 
Hi, does anyone have any thoughts about the current 'Resto Chesto Goltres' HO sample?

I'm wondering if it's still a good team overall, on both Gen8OU ladder and in tours.

And I'm wondering if there are any tips on how to use it effectively. And/or replays of it winning, would be really nice to watch if possible.

Thanks for any thoughts!
 
Hi, does anyone have any thoughts about the current 'Resto Chesto Goltres' HO sample?

I'm wondering if it's still a good team overall, on both Gen8OU ladder and in tours.

And I'm wondering if there are any tips on how to use it effectively. And/or replays of it winning, would be really nice to watch if possible.

Thanks for any thoughts!
It's still a good team - it wouldn't be on the sample teams thread if it wasn't! I don't have any replays at hand, but it works like any other HO team - identify what Pokemon can win you the game and construct a gameplan around them.
 
Usage stats for Rising Stars for those interested

PokemonUsageUsage %Win %
landorus-therian.png
Landorus-Therian4252.50%50.00%
heatran.png
Heatran3847.50%55.26%
clefable.png
Clefable2936.25%44.83%
dragapult.png
Dragapult2632.50%46.15%
weavile.png
Weavile2227.50%54.55%
ferrothorn.png
Ferrothorn2025.00%75.00%
zapdos.png
Zapdos2025.00%65.00%
corviknight.png
Corviknight2025.00%25.00%
urshifu.png
Urshifu1923.75%63.16%
kartana.png
Kartana1923.75%42.11%
tapu-lele.png
Tapu Lele1822.50%44.44%
garchomp.png
Garchomp1620.00%62.50%
tornadus-therian.png
Tornadus-Therian1518.75%60.00%
slowbro.png
Slowbro1316.25%69.23%
slowking-galar.png
Slowking-Galar1215.00%50.00%
melmetal.png
Melmetal1215.00%33.33%
rotom-wash.png
Rotom-Wash1113.75%54.55%
buzzwole.png
Buzzwole1012.50%70.00%
toxapex.png
Toxapex911.25%11.11%
dragonite.png
Dragonite810.00%62.50%
hippowdon.png
Hippowdon810.00%12.50%
tyranitar.png
Tyranitar78.75%57.14%
gastrodon.png
Gastrodon78.75%57.14%
magnezone.png
Magnezone78.75%57.14%
rillaboom.png
Rillaboom78.75%42.86%
tapu-fini.png
Tapu Fini78.75%42.86%
excadrill.png
Excadrill67.50%66.67%
tapu-koko.png
Tapu Koko67.50%33.33%
volcanion.png
Volcanion56.25%40.00%
blissey.png
Blissey56.25%20.00%
blacephalon.png
Blacephalon45.00%50.00%
blaziken.png
Blaziken45.00%50.00%
skarmory.png
Skarmory33.75%100.00%
nidoking.png
Nidoking33.75%33.33%
zeraora.png
Zeraora22.50%50.00%
ninetales-alola.png
Ninetales-Alola22.50%50.00%
arctozolt.png
Arctozolt22.50%50.00%
slowking.png
Slowking22.50%50.00%
scizor.png
Scizor22.50%50.00%
victini.png
Victini22.50%0.00%
volcarona.png
Volcarona11.25%100.00%
mandibuzz.png
Mandibuzz11.25%100.00%
zarude-dada.png
Zarude-Dada11.25%0.00%
chansey.png
Chansey11.25%0.00%
audino.png
Audino11.25%0.00%
jirachi.png
Jirachi11.25%0.00%
crawdaunt.png
Crawdaunt11.25%0.00%
regieleki.png
Regieleki11.25%0.00%
rotom-heat.png
Rotom-Heat11.25%0.00%
tapu-bulu.png
Tapu Bulu11.25%0.00%
 
Usage stats for Rising Stars for those interested

PokemonUsageUsage %Win %
landorus-therian.png
Landorus-Therian4252.50%50.00%
heatran.png
Heatran3847.50%55.26%
clefable.png
Clefable2936.25%44.83%
dragapult.png
Dragapult2632.50%46.15%
weavile.png
Weavile2227.50%54.55%
ferrothorn.png
Ferrothorn2025.00%75.00%
zapdos.png
Zapdos2025.00%65.00%
corviknight.png
Corviknight2025.00%25.00%
urshifu.png
Urshifu1923.75%63.16%
kartana.png
Kartana1923.75%42.11%
tapu-lele.png
Tapu Lele1822.50%44.44%
garchomp.png
Garchomp1620.00%62.50%
tornadus-therian.png
Tornadus-Therian1518.75%60.00%
slowbro.png
Slowbro1316.25%69.23%
slowking-galar.png
Slowking-Galar1215.00%50.00%
melmetal.png
Melmetal1215.00%33.33%
rotom-wash.png
Rotom-Wash1113.75%54.55%
buzzwole.png
Buzzwole1012.50%70.00%
toxapex.png
Toxapex911.25%11.11%
dragonite.png
Dragonite810.00%62.50%
hippowdon.png
Hippowdon810.00%12.50%
tyranitar.png
Tyranitar78.75%57.14%
gastrodon.png
Gastrodon78.75%57.14%
magnezone.png
Magnezone78.75%57.14%
rillaboom.png
Rillaboom78.75%42.86%
tapu-fini.png
Tapu Fini78.75%42.86%
excadrill.png
Excadrill67.50%66.67%
tapu-koko.png
Tapu Koko67.50%33.33%
volcanion.png
Volcanion56.25%40.00%
blissey.png
Blissey56.25%20.00%
blacephalon.png
Blacephalon45.00%50.00%
blaziken.png
Blaziken45.00%50.00%
skarmory.png
Skarmory33.75%100.00%
nidoking.png
Nidoking33.75%33.33%
zeraora.png
Zeraora22.50%50.00%
ninetales-alola.png
Ninetales-Alola22.50%50.00%
arctozolt.png
Arctozolt22.50%50.00%
slowking.png
Slowking22.50%50.00%
scizor.png
Scizor22.50%50.00%
victini.png
Victini22.50%0.00%
volcarona.png
Volcarona11.25%100.00%
mandibuzz.png
Mandibuzz11.25%100.00%
zarude-dada.png
Zarude-Dada11.25%0.00%
chansey.png
Chansey11.25%0.00%
audino.png
Audino11.25%0.00%
jirachi.png
Jirachi11.25%0.00%
crawdaunt.png
Crawdaunt11.25%0.00%
regieleki.png
Regieleki11.25%0.00%
rotom-heat.png
Rotom-Heat11.25%0.00%
tapu-bulu.png
Tapu Bulu11.25%0.00%



Whoever used Audino, I need to know your reasoning.
 
Usage stats for Rising Stars for those interested

PokemonUsageUsage %Win %
landorus-therian.png
Landorus-Therian4252.50%50.00%
heatran.png
Heatran3847.50%55.26%
clefable.png
Clefable2936.25%44.83%
dragapult.png
Dragapult2632.50%46.15%
weavile.png
Weavile2227.50%54.55%
ferrothorn.png
Ferrothorn2025.00%75.00%
zapdos.png
Zapdos2025.00%65.00%
corviknight.png
Corviknight2025.00%25.00%
urshifu.png
Urshifu1923.75%63.16%
kartana.png
Kartana1923.75%42.11%
tapu-lele.png
Tapu Lele1822.50%44.44%
garchomp.png
Garchomp1620.00%62.50%
tornadus-therian.png
Tornadus-Therian1518.75%60.00%
slowbro.png
Slowbro1316.25%69.23%
slowking-galar.png
Slowking-Galar1215.00%50.00%
melmetal.png
Melmetal1215.00%33.33%
rotom-wash.png
Rotom-Wash1113.75%54.55%
buzzwole.png
Buzzwole1012.50%70.00%
toxapex.png
Toxapex911.25%11.11%
dragonite.png
Dragonite810.00%62.50%
hippowdon.png
Hippowdon810.00%12.50%
tyranitar.png
Tyranitar78.75%57.14%
gastrodon.png
Gastrodon78.75%57.14%
magnezone.png
Magnezone78.75%57.14%
rillaboom.png
Rillaboom78.75%42.86%
tapu-fini.png
Tapu Fini78.75%42.86%
excadrill.png
Excadrill67.50%66.67%
tapu-koko.png
Tapu Koko67.50%33.33%
volcanion.png
Volcanion56.25%40.00%
blissey.png
Blissey56.25%20.00%
blacephalon.png
Blacephalon45.00%50.00%
blaziken.png
Blaziken45.00%50.00%
skarmory.png
Skarmory33.75%100.00%
nidoking.png
Nidoking33.75%33.33%
zeraora.png
Zeraora22.50%50.00%
ninetales-alola.png
Ninetales-Alola22.50%50.00%
arctozolt.png
Arctozolt22.50%50.00%
slowking.png
Slowking22.50%50.00%
scizor.png
Scizor22.50%50.00%
victini.png
Victini22.50%0.00%
volcarona.png
Volcarona11.25%100.00%
mandibuzz.png
Mandibuzz11.25%100.00%
zarude-dada.png
Zarude-Dada11.25%0.00%
chansey.png
Chansey11.25%0.00%
audino.png
Audino11.25%0.00%
jirachi.png
Jirachi11.25%0.00%
crawdaunt.png
Crawdaunt11.25%0.00%
regieleki.png
Regieleki11.25%0.00%
rotom-heat.png
Rotom-Heat11.25%0.00%
tapu-bulu.png
Tapu Bulu11.25%0.00%

Also for Invitational cuz I couldn't find any stats for that tour, includes play-ins as well

Moves And Teammates - Combos - Leads

PokemonUsageUsage %Win %
:landorus-therian:Landorus-Therian16048.48%52.50%
:heatran:Heatran12838.79%59.38%
:clefable:Clefable12236.97%47.54%
:dragapult:Dragapult10431.52%50.00%
:garchomp:Garchomp9829.70%47.96%
:tornadus-therian:Tornadus-Therian9729.39%47.42%
:ferrothorn:Ferrothorn9528.79%49.47%
:weavile:Weavile9027.27%51.11%
:melmetal:Melmetal6720.30%44.78%
:tapu-lele:Tapu Lele6118.48%52.46%
:zapdos:Zapdos6118.48%50.82%
:urshifu:Urshifu5717.27%57.89%
:rillaboom:Rillaboom5416.36%46.30%
:kartana:Kartana4814.55%52.08%
:corviknight:Corviknight4513.64%44.44%
:slowking-galar:Slowking-Galar4313.03%41.86%
:slowbro:Slowbro4112.42%48.78%
:toxapex:Toxapex4012.12%40.00%
:rotom-wash:Rotom-Wash3610.91%55.56%
:hippowdon:Hippowdon3410.30%50.00%
:tapu-fini:Tapu Fini329.70%56.25%
:dragonite:Dragonite309.09%56.67%
:tyranitar:Tyranitar298.79%51.72%
:tapu-koko:Tapu Koko288.48%57.14%
:blacephalon:Blacephalon257.58%40.00%
:volcarona:Volcarona236.97%52.17%
:excadrill:Excadrill236.97%52.17%
:zeraora:Zeraora226.67%50.00%
:blaziken:Blaziken226.67%36.36%
:buzzwole:Buzzwole216.36%61.90%
:volcanion:Volcanion185.45%50.00%
:skarmory:Skarmory185.45%38.89%
:slowking:Slowking175.15%41.18%
:moltres-galar:Moltres-Galar154.55%60.00%
:scizor:Scizor154.55%46.67%
:gastrodon:Gastrodon144.24%50.00%
:nidoking:Nidoking133.94%53.85%
:magnezone:Magnezone123.64%58.33%
:bisharp:Bisharp113.33%45.45%
:ninetales-alola:Ninetales-Alola113.33%45.45%
:suicune:Suicune82.42%62.50%
:mandibuzz:Mandibuzz61.82%66.67%
:arctozolt:Arctozolt61.82%66.67%
:blissey:Blissey61.82%33.33%
:pelipper:Pelipper51.52%40.00%
:mew:Mew51.52%40.00%
:victini:Victini51.52%20.00%
:hydreigon:Hydreigon41.21%75.00%
:barraskewda:Barraskewda30.91%66.67%
:seismitoad:Seismitoad30.91%66.67%
:hawlucha:Hawlucha30.91%66.67%
:blastoise:Blastoise30.91%66.67%
:chansey:Chansey30.91%66.67%
:aegislash:Aegislash30.91%0.00%
:hatterene:Hatterene30.91%0.00%
:tapu-bulu:Tapu Bulu20.61%100.00%
:azumarill:Azumarill20.61%100.00%
:mamoswine:Mamoswine20.61%100.00%
:nihilego:Nihilego20.61%50.00%
:cresselia:Cresselia20.61%50.00%
:quagsire:Quagsire20.61%0.00%
:necrozma:Necrozma20.61%0.00%
:venusaur:Venusaur20.61%0.00%
:torkoal:Torkoal20.61%0.00%
:primarina:Primarina20.61%0.00%
:shedinja:Shedinja20.61%0.00%
:stunfisk:Stunfisk10.30%100.00%
:keldeo:Keldeo10.30%100.00%
:jirachi:Jirachi10.30%100.00%
:rhyperior:Rhyperior10.30%100.00%
:crawdaunt:Crawdaunt10.30%0.00%
:lanturn:Lanturn10.30%0.00%
:shiftry:Shiftry10.30%0.00%
:zapdos-galar:Zapdos-Galar10.30%0.00%
:raichu-alola:Raichu-Alola10.30%0.00%
:celesteela:Celesteela10.30%0.00%
:latias:Latias10.30%0.00%
:gengar:Gengar10.30%0.00%
 
SS Trios II usage stats for anyone interested

Moves and Teammates - Combos - Leads

PokemonUsageUsage %Win %
landorus-therian.png
Landorus-Therian25348.47%47.43%
heatran.png
Heatran17132.76%40.35%
dragapult.png
Dragapult16331.23%46.63%
garchomp.png
Garchomp15529.69%50.32%
clefable.png
Clefable14327.39%44.06%
tornadus-therian.png
Tornadus-Therian14026.82%53.57%
weavile.png
Weavile13626.05%51.47%
melmetal.png
Melmetal13024.90%53.85%
ferrothorn.png
Ferrothorn12523.95%55.20%
tapu-lele.png
Tapu Lele11822.61%52.54%
urshifu.png
Urshifu11221.46%50.89%
zapdos.png
Zapdos9718.58%49.48%
kartana.png
Kartana9317.82%48.39%
slowbro.png
Slowbro8115.52%53.09%
corviknight.png
Corviknight7915.13%51.90%
slowking-galar.png
Slowking-Galar6813.03%50.00%
tyranitar.png
Tyranitar6512.45%58.46%
toxapex.png
Toxapex6312.07%44.44%
rillaboom.png
Rillaboom6312.07%44.44%
rotom-wash.png
Rotom-Wash5510.54%41.82%
tapu-fini.png
Tapu Fini529.96%59.62%
excadrill.png
Excadrill519.77%56.86%
blacephalon.png
Blacephalon499.39%46.94%
volcanion.png
Volcanion448.43%56.82%
dragonite.png
Dragonite438.24%58.14%
buzzwole.png
Buzzwole438.24%51.16%
tapu-koko.png
Tapu Koko397.47%48.72%
zeraora.png
Zeraora315.94%58.06%
ninetales-alola.png
Ninetales-Alola285.36%53.57%
gastrodon.png
Gastrodon275.17%37.04%
blaziken.png
Blaziken264.98%50.00%
volcarona.png
Volcarona254.79%48.00%
hippowdon.png
Hippowdon234.41%52.17%
nidoking.png
Nidoking234.41%52.17%
moltres-galar.png
Moltres-Galar224.21%63.64%
mew.png
Mew224.21%36.36%
slowking.png
Slowking214.02%66.67%
blissey.png
Blissey173.26%41.18%
magnezone.png
Magnezone152.87%66.67%
arctozolt.png
Arctozolt152.87%40.00%
bisharp.png
Bisharp132.49%46.15%
celesteela.png
Celesteela122.30%41.67%
skarmory.png
Skarmory122.30%33.33%
scizor.png
Scizor101.92%60.00%
mandibuzz.png
Mandibuzz91.72%66.67%
suicune.png
Suicune81.53%87.50%
necrozma.png
Necrozma81.53%62.50%
cloyster.png
Cloyster81.53%62.50%
nihilego.png
Nihilego81.53%37.50%
aegislash.png
Aegislash71.34%57.14%
gengar.png
Gengar71.34%57.14%
pelipper.png
Pelipper61.15%66.67%
kommo-o.png
Kommo-o61.15%50.00%
hawlucha.png
Hawlucha61.15%50.00%
barraskewda.png
Barraskewda50.96%60.00%
hydreigon.png
Hydreigon50.96%60.00%
crawdaunt.png
Crawdaunt50.96%20.00%
victini.png
Victini50.96%20.00%
seismitoad.png
Seismitoad40.77%50.00%
primarina.png
Primarina40.77%50.00%
tangrowth.png
Tangrowth40.77%25.00%
mienshao.png
Mienshao30.57%66.67%
jirachi.png
Jirachi30.57%33.33%
tyrantrum.png
Tyrantrum30.57%0.00%
marowak-alola.png
Marowak-Alola20.38%100.00%
swampert.png
Swampert20.38%100.00%
reuniclus.png
Reuniclus20.38%50.00%
torkoal.png
Torkoal20.38%50.00%
hatterene.png
Hatterene20.38%50.00%
cresselia.png
Cresselia20.38%50.00%
amoonguss.png
Amoonguss20.38%50.00%
zapdos-galar.png
Zapdos-Galar20.38%50.00%
:zygarde-10%:Zygarde-10%10.19%100.00%
raboot.png
Raboot10.19%100.00%
dhelmise.png
Dhelmise10.19%100.00%
keldeo.png
Keldeo10.19%100.00%
cobalion.png
Cobalion10.19%100.00%
virizion.png
Virizion10.19%100.00%
porygon2.png
Porygon210.19%100.00%
stakataka.png
Stakataka10.19%100.00%
porygon-z.png
Porygon-Z10.19%100.00%
azumarill.png
Azumarill10.19%100.00%
raikou.png
Raikou10.19%100.00%
lycanroc.png
Lycanroc10.19%100.00%
lycanroc-midnight.png
Lycanroc-Midnight10.19%100.00%
kingler.png
Kingler10.19%0.00%
latios.png
Latios10.19%0.00%
venusaur.png
Venusaur10.19%0.00%
tapu-bulu.png
Tapu Bulu10.19%0.00%
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Grimmsnarl10.19%0.00%
golurk.png
Golurk10.19%0.00%
zarude-dada.png
Zarude-Dada10.19%0.00%
chansey.png
Chansey10.19%0.00%
morpeko.png
Morpeko10.19%0.00%
mamoswine.png
Mamoswine10.19%0.00%
regieleki.png
Regieleki10.19%0.00%
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Dracozolt10.19%0.00%
alakazam.png
Alakazam10.19%0.00%
xatu.png
Xatu10.19%0.00%
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Raichu-Alola10.19%0.00%
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Lycanroc-Dusk10.19%0.00%
 
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