February 3, 2013
23:08 Quanyails: o3o
23:09 Quanyails: Neat program!
23:09 Kadew: 3
23:09 Kadew: I like this program
23:09 Quanyails: I am almost done spriting the lineart.
23:09 Quanyails: I'm trying to keep much of the derp of it.
23:09 Kadew: I am almost done laughing so much I can't hold my pen trying to draw it
23:09 Deck Knight: Ah.
23:13 Quanyails: I'll be curious as to how dissimilar the sprite and drawing are. :P
23:13 Kadew: super dissimilar
23:13 Kadew: I'm trying to stylize it a touch
23:13 Kadew: rather than keep it carbon-copy
23:13 Kadew: I'm keeping the wonky proportions, though
23:14 SgtWoodsy: good
23:14 SgtWoodsy: thank you
23:17 Eagle4: Aa i can't work with pirate pad
23:17 Quanyails: So, uh, wait, what are its stats?
23:17 SgtWoodsy: defensive
23:17 SgtWoodsy: reasonably defensive
23:18 SgtWoodsy: according to jas
23:18 jas61292: I like Korski's alteration of 119/71/111/69/109/51
23:18 Timeblaze: That looks nice.
23:18 Eagle4: Good stats :)
23:20 jas61292: So... we just need movepool
23:20 Eagle4: and pokedex submissions :P
23:20 Eagle4: although that's flavour
23:21 jas61292: Well, what say you all on recovery?
23:21 Timeblaze: This seems really similar to Kecleon.
23:21 Eagle4: yes, recovery
23:21 Timeblaze: Is it an evolution? Or no?
23:21 jas61292: I don't think so
23:22 Timeblaze: What sets the two apart? Aside from the obvious inclusion of Multitype.
23:22 Kadew: its an evolution in the way that alomomola was an evo of luvdisc
23:22 Kadew: in that it is the same base idea and very similar
23:22 Timeblaze: ...right.
23:22 Kadew: but not related evolutionarily
23:23 Deck Knight: It's the Plusle/Minun/Emolga/Pachirisu to our Pikachu
23:23 jas61292: So I say give it Slack Off for recovery
23:23 Korski: yes slack off
23:23 Kadew: should we get some movepool ideas for discussed/allowed/disallowed lists?
23:24 Eagle4: what do you guys say about defense curl?
23:24 Deck Knight: Roost would be cooler for Flying Chamereon
23:24 Kadew: roost is such bad flavor :P
23:24 Korski: give it calm mind and coil
23:24 Kadew: I like coil idea
23:24 Timeblaze: Is Chamereon going to actually be it's name?
23:25 Kadew: YES
23:25 jas61292: Coil seems cool
23:25 Kadew: should we be sure it gets a stab for every type?
23:25 jas61292: Nah
23:25 Korski: judgment yo
23:26 Eagle4: Leaf blade?
23:26 Timeblaze: Wait, can we base it off of Jackson's Chameleon?
23:26 Kadew: I want to see if we can do without judgment
23:26 Timeblaze: Kecleon is based off of the Veiled Chameleon.
23:26 Korski: 69 SpA...
23:26 jas61292: Power Whip seems cool for grass coverage
23:26 jas61292: And makes sense
23:27 jas61292: Seeing as Lickilicky gest it
23:27 Kadew: if it has power whip it doesn't need leaf blade
23:27 Eagle4: yeah, power whip definitely
23:27 jas61292: yeah
23:27 Eagle4: no leaf blade
23:27 SgtWoodsy: well since this thing has multitype
23:27 SgtWoodsy: shouldn't it have a giant movepool
23:27 Korski: it should have some standard support options
23:28 jas61292: Yeah. It should have plenty of options. But not everything
23:28 Kadew: being normal type, it should get the elemental beams
23:28 Kadew: and random surf capability
23:28 Eagle4: Extreme Speed?
23:28 jas61292: makes sense to me
23:28 jas61292: not e-speed
23:28 Timeblaze: If it's based off of Jackson's Chameleon, it could learn Megahorn.
23:28 jas61292: the beams
23:28 Eagle4: Baton Pass?
23:28 Korski: spikes
23:29 jas61292: I have no problem with any of the beam like things
23:29 Kadew: I don't think chamereon is horny enough to use megahorn
23:29 jas61292: Its SpA isn't that great anyways
23:29 Timeblaze: >_>
23:29 Kadew: any disagreement with the elemental beams?
23:29 Timeblaze: Nope.
23:29 Eagle4: ope
23:29 Eagle4: nope*
23:30 Eagle4: What about elemental fangs?
23:30 Kadew: fangs are weak and lame
23:30 Kadew: horn attack is mroe of a flavor move
23:30 Timeblaze: I don't think chameleons have very strong bites.
23:30 Kadew: since return beats it in every whay
23:30 Kadew: *way
23:30 jas61292: What about the stronger version of those moves: Fire Blast, Blizzard and Thunder?
23:31 jas61292: Also: Shadow Ball?
23:31 Kadew: not thunder, nothing that makes it another good rain mon
23:31 Korski: i say no to mighty beams
23:31 Eagle4: Iron tail?
23:31 Kadew: I'd be okay with blizzard, for hail maybe
23:31 Timeblaze: Surf?
23:31 jas61292: Iron Tail seems fine
23:32 Kadew: ahaha
23:32 Eagle4: oh haha
23:32 Timeblaze: Oh, now look what you've done.
23:32 Kadew: I see no reason for shadowball
23:32 Kadew: rather, no reason to not allow it
23:32 jas61292: What about....
23:32 jas61292: Gunk Shot?
23:33 Kadew: it's pretty standard for normal types to have, lets its ghot type have a move
23:33 Kadew: gunk shot okay, sort of makes me think of chameleon tongue
23:33 Timeblaze: ...Stealth Rock?
23:33 Timeblaze: Kecleon gets it.
23:33 Eagle4: Dragon Tail?
23:33 Kadew: everything and its mum got stealth rock 4th gen
23:34 Timeblaze: True.
23:34 Korski: let's stick to attacking moves for now
23:34 Timeblaze: Ooh, what about Dragon Claw and Dragon Rush?
23:34 Kadew: I agree
23:34 Korski: for organization's sake
23:34 Eagle4: Dragon Tail would fit in nicely with Iron Tal
23:34 jas61292: I support Dragon Rush and Dragon Tail for only Dragon coverage
23:34 Eagle4: yes
23:34 SgtWoodsy: yep
23:35 Eagle4: agreed
23:35 SgtWoodsy: ahaha
23:35 SgtWoodsy: the chamereon sprite
23:35 SgtWoodsy: awesome
23:35 Quanyails: :)
23:35 jas61292: Nice
23:35 Timeblaze: Not sure what to think about that sprite.
23:35 SgtWoodsy: wait
23:35 SgtWoodsy: where's yilx
23:35 Quanyails: I should make its back legs more sprawled.
23:35 SgtWoodsy: i feel kinda bad for making this without yilx
23:35 jas61292: Hmm... what about Psychic?
23:35 Kadew: zen headbutt
23:36 jas61292: Good idea
23:36 Eagle4: Pursuit/Knock Off?
23:36 Kadew: those are more support moves than attacking
23:36 Kadew: well, pursuit yeah
23:36 jas61292: Crunch?
23:36 Kadew: what of crunch?
23:36 Timeblaze: Sucker Punch?
23:36 Korski: body slam and crunch
23:36 jas61292: Oh yeah, body slam
23:37 Eagle4: agreeing with sucker punch
23:37 jas61292: Sucker Punch I'd be cool with
23:37 jas61292: Now, what of fighting coverage?
23:37 Timeblaze: Brick Break, Superpower?
23:38 Korski: cross chop
23:38 Korski: for coil sets
23:38 jas61292: I'd say those and Focus Blast
23:38 Timeblaze: Which ones?
23:38 jas61292: All. Cross Chop is odd flavor, but it would be cool for coil
23:39 Eagle4: Low Sweep or Cross Chop
23:39 Kadew: neither, I think we have enough fighting with those
23:39 SgtWoodsy: yes
23:39 Eagle4: i'm happy with focus blast
23:39 SgtWoodsy: i think we're well covered for fighting moves
23:39 Timeblaze: Right.
23:40 Timeblaze: How about Normal moves?
23:40 Eagle4: on to flying ;)
23:40 Timeblaze: Or Flying.
23:40 jas61292: Acrobatics
23:40 jas61292: And Aerial Ace
23:40 Timeblaze: Yes, that definitely works.
23:40 Eagle4: Bounce
23:41 Eagle4: I'm not happy with superpower being on here
23:42 Timeblaze: So, what will this thing accomplish competitively, exactly?
23:42 jas61292: Anyone have problems with Bounce?
23:42 Korski: bounce is extranneous
23:42 Eagle4: i don't ;)
23:43 Korski: unless you are toxic stalling or something?
23:43 SgtWoodsy: it's ou arceus
23:43 SgtWoodsy: apparently
23:43 SgtWoodsy: it looks reasonably defensive
23:43 jas61292: Well, its a flying STAB that works like Body Slam
23:43 Timeblaze: What about Acrobatics?
23:44 Eagle4: no not dragon pulse
23:44 Eagle4: dragon breath maybe
23:44 Mos-Quitoxe: right then
23:44 Kadew: dragon breath would be flavor if anything
23:44 Mos-Quitoxe: what's this crazy setup
23:44 Deck Knight: Dragonbreath wouldn't be on an allowed list since it isn't VGM
23:44 Kadew: the best kind of crazy
23:44 Eagle4: oh okay
23:44 Timeblaze: This party's getting crazy
23:44 Kadew: so many colors in the chat
23:45 Timeblaze: Hey hey hey
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: I'd contribute, but my dirty dirty brown would literally soil your rainbow
23:45 jas61292: You could change your color...
23:45 Eagle4: no not blizzard or thunder
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: I know
23:45 Mos-Quitoxe: *lame excuses*
23:45 Eagle4: it doesn't fit in at all
23:46 Timeblaze: Shadow Sneak?
23:46 Korski: weather ball preempts my hydro pump suggestion
23:46 Timeblaze: Hydro Pump is a bit much.
23:46 Fusxfaranto: weather ball is good
23:47 Timeblaze: Well, he can learn tail moves, so that'd work.
23:47 Eagle4: aa i was about to suggest aqua tail
23:47 Deck Knight: Chamereon is a tailed beast
23:47 jas61292: Oh, what about ground and rock moves?
23:47 Eagle4: ninja'd by deck knight
23:47 jas61292: EQ?
23:47 Deck Knight: I can Ninja even in Pirate Pad
23:48 Eagle4: rock slide?
23:48 Timeblaze: What about Dark Pulse?
23:48 Korski: rock slide and bulldoze
23:48 jas61292: Sounds good
23:48 Deck Knight: Indeed
23:48 Eagle4: agreeing with korski
23:48 Eagle4: Belly Drum? :D
23:49 Fusxfaranto: yes
23:49 Timeblaze: We're focusing on attacking moves at the moment.
23:49 Timeblaze: ...String Shot?
23:49 Fusxfaranto: string shot, definitely a cgm
23:49 Fusxfaranto: *vgm
23:49 jas61292: Explosion....?
23:49 Eagle4: no
23:49 Timeblaze: How on earth would it use Explosion?
23:49 Deck Knight: lol Exploding Chamereon
23:49 jas61292: Quick Attack?
23:49 Mos-Quitoxe: where the hell is lick?
23:50 Kadew: its trunk looks pretty swollen, id think it could explode
23:50 Mos-Quitoxe: it explodes from appendicitis
23:50 Eagle4: I still want leaf blade :(
23:50 Fusxfaranto: selfdestruct at least
23:50 Mos-Quitoxe: no-one ever said it had to be a fiery explosion
23:50 Kadew: if lickilicki can explode I think this could
23:50 Timeblaze: Selfdestruct would be fine.
23:51 Deck Knight: Lickilicki has Explosive Flatulence
23:51 Eagle4: please, no explosion or self-destruct
23:51 jas61292: Final Gambit :>
23:51 Eagle4: EVERYBODY suggests final gambit in movepools i've noticed
23:51 Kadew: chamereon isn't ninja enough for final gambit
23:52 jas61292: Seriously though, what about priority moves?
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: it would imply that it could formulate non-final gambits
23:52 Eagle4: Pursuit?
23:52 Timeblaze: What about X-Scissor?
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: and it certainly can't do that, not with those wall-eyes.
23:52 Fusxfaranto: give it bullet punch ;3
23:52 Timeblaze: Or maybe Signal Beam.
23:52 Korski: priority is going to be lackluster i bet
23:52 Kadew: can't punch with those skinny arms
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: lick lick lick
23:52 Mos-Quitoxe: it's what chameleons DO
23:52 jas61292: I say give it Quick Attack.
23:52 Timeblaze: Aqua Jet!?
23:52 Kadew: custom move: quick lick
23:53 Deck Knight: Yeah,
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: also good
23:53 Kadew: takes on the type it currently is
23:53 Deck Knight: NO CUSTOM ANYTHING ROAAAARRG
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: that's better
23:53 SgtWoodsy: there
23:53 SgtWoodsy: lick
23:53 Korski: lick will be in the movepool
23:53 Mos-Quitoxe: thank ye
23:53 jas61292: Anything else anyone can think of for attacking moves?
23:53 SgtWoodsy: so uh
23:54 SgtWoodsy: custom judgement?
23:54 Eagle4: Knock off
23:54 Kadew: How does it punch with those skinny arms?
23:54 Kadew: or focus for that matter
23:54 Timeblaze: I dunno about this thing focusing
23:54 Korski: umm poison jab / gunk shot
23:54 Mos-Quitoxe: it punches with elastic tongue action of coruse
23:54 Timeblaze: That's stretching it.
23:54 Deck Knight: It turns its tongue into a fist and punches with that!
23:54 Kadew: gyro ball?
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: it's not even round kadew
23:55 Kadew: yeah it is
http://i.imgur.com/tzfED.jpg
23:55 Kadew: that's pretty round body to me
23:55 Kadew: it's ellipse tool for goodness sake
23:55 Eagle4: KNOCK OFF
23:55 Kadew: that's a non-attacking move
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: too many appendages
23:55 Mos-Quitoxe: like heads and tails
23:55 Timeblaze: Hey, how about Hex?
23:55 Timeblaze: It's japanese name is Evil Eye.
23:56 Mos-Quitoxe: you can tell I resent bronzor and bronzong knowing the move
23:56 Fusxfaranto: hex is cool
23:56 Timeblaze: And those are some scary eyes.
23:56 Timeblaze: What about Normal attacks besides Return?
23:56 Eagle4: crush grip
23:57 Eagle4: okay, enough attacking moves...
23:57 Korski: it already has body slam
23:57 Fusxfaranto: wrap?
23:58 Timeblaze: Strength? Facade?
23:58 Timeblaze: Hyper Voice?
23:58 Eagle4: Ninja'd by kadew this time
23:58 Korski: i'm comfortable with this list of attacks
23:58 Eagle4: and no hyper voice lol
23:58 Kadew: Yeah I'd say this is big enough
23:58 Eagle4: agreed
23:58 Fusxfaranto: yeah this looks good
23:58 Timeblaze: It looks good as i-
23:58 Timeblaze: ...as is.
23:58 Kadew: HIDDEN POWER
23:59 Mos-Quitoxe: this is a fucken' bloated list
23:59 Eagle4: Yup
23:59 Timeblaze: Okay, that's good.
23:59 Kadew: wait till you see non-attacking moves
23:59 Timeblaze: Deck Knight, stop
February 4, 2013
0:00 Deck Knight: So, no Ancient Power then?
0:00 Fusxfaranto: lol
0:00 Mos-Quitoxe: can't be too similar to kecleon
0:00 paint: did you guys just remake Kecleon?
0:00 paint: ew bad colour
0:01 jas61292: Not at all
0:01 Kadew: We have rebuilt Keckleon
0:01 Timeblaze: It's to Kecleon what Alomomola is to Luvdisc.
0:01 Kadew: better than it was before
0:01 Fusxfaranto: it's a cross between kecleon and arceus
0:01 Deck Knight: We have the technology
0:01 Kadew: better, stronger, faster
0:01 Mos-Quitoxe: we ha-damn ninja knight
0:01 paint: haha
0:01 Kadew: Deck Kninja strikes again!
0:01 jas61292: Cosmic Power?
0:01 Korski: give it screens
0:02 Eagle4: anybody object to stockpile?
0:02 Kadew: no
0:02 Fusxfaranto: well now it needs swallow and spit up
0:02 jas61292: What are people's thoughts on T-Wave?
0:02 Kadew: it already has glare
0:02 Kadew: which + coil would be pretty okay
0:03 Kadew: hows about mean look?
0:03 Timeblaze: Stealth Rock?
0:03 Fusxfaranto: definitely mean look
0:03 Eagle4: it's too derpy to look mean
0:03 Kadew: what about lovely kiss~
0:03 Mos-Quitoxe: but it looks scary
0:03 jas61292: No sleep moves
0:03 jas61292: Wisp?
0:03 Timeblaze: Hone Claws!
0:04 Eagle4: Toxic Spikes?
0:04 Kadew: coil > hone claws
0:04 Kadew: not needed at all
0:04 jas61292: HC is fine since Coil outclasses
0:04 Kadew: then it would be a flavor move
0:04 Kadew: isn't this just for VGM?
0:04 Fusxfaranto: >tail whip
0:04 Eagle4: Toxic Spikes?
0:04 Fusxfaranto: nah
0:05 Kadew: this thing has way too many options to be thinking hazards too
0:05 jas61292: Roar?
0:05 Fusxfaranto: yes
0:05 Eagle4: yes
0:05 Korski: it should have spikes
0:05 Deck Knight: CAP Principle: Design by Committee sucks
0:05 Eagle4: no hyper beam
0:05 Eagle4: no giga impact
0:05 Deck Knight: Like Skarmory!
0:05 Timeblaze: What do you mean, no Hyper Beam/Giga Impact?
0:06 Timeblaze: Is this thing fully evolved?
0:06 Kadew: corollary: design by committe is what makes us matter
0:06 SgtWoodsy: yeah
0:06 Eagle4: Swagger?
0:06 Deck Knight: But our committee is not nearly fat enough
0:06 Kadew: chamereon has swag
0:06 Timeblaze: Then it gets Hyper Beam/Giga Impact.
0:06 Timeblaze: It's already on the attacking moves list.
0:06 Eagle4: Baton Pass?
0:07 Fusxfaranto: sure
0:07 jas61292: I'd say no to BP. it would pass Coils too easily
0:07 Eagle4: Man this movepool is massive
0:07 Kadew: Yeah no bp
0:07 Quanyails: Updated sprite.
0:07 Timeblaze: Calm Mind? Bulk Up?
0:07 Fusxfaranto: ooh we need to give it foul play
0:07 Kadew: I'm not sure on willowisp either
0:07 Quanyails: Still have to fix up tail.
0:08 jas61292: Looking good
0:08 Eagle4: Heal Bell?
0:08 Kadew: yes calm mind no bulk up
0:08 Kadew: give it a special option
0:08 jas61292: Wisp might be too good
0:08 Kadew: but it has coil
0:08 Eagle4: no wisp
0:08 Eagle4: I don't know if heal bell would be too much
0:08 Deck Knight: Spore...
0:08 jas61292: no
0:08 Eagle4: no not spore
0:09 jas61292: Heal Bell could be interesting
0:09 Kadew: sing!
0:09 Deck Knight: Grasswhistle
0:09 jas61292: Could make a nice cleric
0:09 paint: chameleons don't make noises
0:09 Eagle4: we've got yawn
0:09 Timeblaze: Rain Dance? Sunny Day? Hail? Sandstorm?
0:09 Fusxfaranto: nah no weather
0:09 Deck Knight: Every Normal mon has Sunny Day and Rain Dance.
0:09 jas61292: Yeah
0:10 Eagle4: I'd say grasswhistle should be used instead of yawn
0:10 Fusxfaranto: nevermind then
0:10 Timeblaze: What about Taunt?
0:10 Fusxfaranto: no taunt, no torment
0:10 Timeblaze: I'm currently going over the list of TMs to make a list.
0:10 Kadew: disable?
0:10 Deck Knight: Well, there goes me naming my Chamereon Obelisk
0:10 Fusxfaranto: nah
0:10 Eagle4: we're now just piling on any non-attacking move :(
0:10 Kadew: copy-cat
0:10 Kadew: makes sense for chameleon
0:11 Deck Knight: Me First
0:11 Deck Knight: (The move)
0:11 Eagle4: copy-cat
0:11 Deck Knight: MIRROR MOVE
0:11 Eagle4: agreed
0:11 Kadew: me first says deck kninja
0:11 Kadew: mirror move is for the birds
0:11 Deck Knight: Yeah, but I'm the reason Stun Spore is on Cyclohm, sooo....
0:11 jas61292: I think this looks good
0:12 Kadew: needs quiver dance
0:12 Eagle4: so no copycat?
0:12 jas61292: Who wants to organize it all into a movepool?
0:12 Eagle4: ah
0:12 Deck Knight: Shell Smash
0:12 Timeblaze: I'm currently doing TMs
0:13 Kadew: who went and made this the #yoloswag pokemon? >:|
0:13 jas61292: :\
0:13 Timeblaze: Dumb question, but should this thing get Attract?
0:13 Eagle4: NO
0:13 Fusxfaranto: yes
0:13 Kadew: its already on there
0:13 Timeblaze: Alright
0:13 Eagle4: I MEAN YES
0:13 Kadew: and every gendered poke has it
0:13 Kadew: plus poor cyrogonal
0:13 Timeblaze: Larvesta
0:13 Timeblaze: Ferroseed
0:14 jas61292: Almost every.
0:14 jas61292: Not Nincada, iirc
0:14 Timeblaze: False Swipe?
0:14 jas61292: sure
0:15 Timeblaze: Shadow Claw?
0:16 Quanyails: All righty, I hope I can focus here more now that the sprite is nearing a final draft.
0:16 Mos-Quitoxe: I bet that cryogonal was going to be gendered and they forgot to edit out attract
0:16 jas61292: I'm fine with Shadow Claw. Don't know about anyone else
0:16 Eagle4: looks great :)
0:16 Eagle4: agreeing with shadow claw
0:16 Quanyails: I'm okay with Shadow Claw. :P
0:16 Eagle4: DRAGON CLAW
0:17 Eagle4: jks
0:17 Timeblaze: Gyro Ball? Swords Dance?
0:17 jas61292: No SD
0:17 Eagle4: we've got gyro ball
0:17 Eagle4: no SD
0:17 Timeblaze: Okay
0:17 Deck Knight: Tail Glow
0:17 jas61292: ....
0:17 Eagle4: no
0:18 Timeblaze: Work Up? Dream Eater?
0:18 jas61292: Dream Eater!
0:18 Eagle4: no, we;ve got enough moves :/
0:18 Timeblaze: Hey, I'm just going over the TMs. >_>
0:18 Fusxfaranto: yes work up, no dream eater
0:19 Deck Knight: Heh, funny thought
0:19 jas61292: Someone should make a level up movepool
0:19 Timeblaze: I've got one yes for Work Up, and a yes and a no for Dream Eater.
0:19 paint: can't believe we're making Chamereon without Yilx :\
0:19 Timeblaze: What do the rest of you say?
0:19 Deck Knight: I just realized that, technically, all the mons with Secret Power had a Sleep Move to use with Dream Eater.
0:19 Kadew: yilx will be brokenhearted to hear of this
0:19 Eagle4: no dream eater
0:20 Timeblaze: Okay, no Dream Eater. Work Up?
0:20 Eagle4: fine
0:20 jas61292: We will dedicate this pokemon to yilx
0:20 Kadew: In Yilx's memory
0:21 Eagle4: Is anybody doing chamereon's level up movepool?
0:21 Eagle4: I'm bad with movepools :(
0:21 Kadew: it's level up movepool is lvl1 lick
0:21 Kadew: and then all the vgms that won't fit elsewhere
0:22 Quanyails: Base it off of Alomomola's increments?
0:22 jas61292: Nah, that is egg pool
0:22 Timeblaze: Okay, finalizing the TM list.
0:22 Eagle4: cool :)
0:23 Eagle4: also timeblaze, have you edited your dex submissions yet?
0:23 Timeblaze: I've made a new post.
0:23 Eagle4: ima go check
0:23 Timeblaze: Okay, it's ready.
0:23 Kadew: let's make some dex entries for this
0:23 Kadew: below moves
0:23 Timeblaze: We should start deleting all TM moves off of the list.
0:25 Eagle4: a what's a fly pokemon
0:25 Timeblaze: Here goes, be ready
0:26 Timeblaze: I'll work on Tutor moves now
0:26 Quanyails: Do you mind if I reword the entry at line 132? o3o
0:27 Kadew: go ahead
0:27 SgtWoodsy: we're gonna have to talk to yilx about this
0:27 SgtWoodsy: before submitting
0:27 jas61292: Why you all so mean to poor delibird?
0:27 SgtWoodsy: delibird's a piece of shit
0:27 Kadew: Because that is the way of CAP
0:27 jas61292: =(
0:28 paint: guys. all of these dex entries are awesome. use your powers for good for Cupra and Argalis
0:28 jas61292: Yeah, listen to paint!!
0:28 Eagle4: kadew, yours is too long
0:28 Quanyails: Updated the sprite with transparency, if anyone cares. :P
0:28 paint: the key is to not take them seriously
0:29 Birkal: lol
0:29 Birkal: hello team
0:29 Quanyails: BIRKAL. :D
0:29 Kadew: Birkal!
0:29 jas61292: Hello Birkal
0:29 Deck Knight: Birkal
0:29
unnamed: Birkal
0:29 Kadew: skip all the boring and head to the dex entries
0:29 Birkal: this mon is broken
0:29 Birkal: lol
0:29 Quanyails: What do you think so far?
0:29 Birkal: those defenses + slack off + multitype
0:29 Timeblaze: We're making Chamereon
0:29 Birkal: I am very proud
0:29 Kadew: let's reduce every stat by 30 base
0:29 Kadew: that shoudl do it
0:29 Birkal: nahh I am just interested in this mon
0:30 Birkal: it's gonna tank like crazy
0:30 Deck Knight: Birkal - become drunk with power. Make out fakemon GROW!
0:30 Birkal: good move not putting hazards on it though
0:30 Birkal: this could actually help stall a lot
0:30 Birkal: I don't think it has any superboffensive sets
0:30 Birkal: *superb offensive
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i have created something good
0:30 jas61292: Yeah. Not really that strong
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i am very proud of myself
0:30 Birkal: Sgt, this isn't yours
0:30 Birkal: it's not dragon/grass
0:30 SgtWoodsy: i got this thing started
0:30 SgtWoodsy: it's mine
0:31 Birkal: solid
0:31 Birkal: what is yilx up to; is here here?
0:31 SgtWoodsy: and i've done very little since since handegg's on
0:31 paint: Eagle4: "Charmereon often licks its own eyeballs" is perfect
0:31 SgtWoodsy: no
0:31 Birkal: lol he will be so proud
0:31 SgtWoodsy: i feel kinda guilty about it
0:31 Timeblaze: Okay, I've made a preemptive tutor list
0:31 Quanyails: Are we doing allcaps or not? o3o
0:31 Timeblaze: See if there's anything missing, or on that shouldn't be
0:31 SgtWoodsy: nah
0:31 SgtWoodsy: there's no more allcaps in pokemon
0:32 Quanyails: Then I shall make the entries lowercased.
0:32 Kadew: ALLCAPS
0:32 Kadew: the superior way of writing
0:32 Birkal: oh wow, this thing is slow
0:33 Birkal: jas are we using raw stats or dusk-esque ones
0:33 paint: I vote we stop doing dex entries now and pick from what we have
0:33 SgtWoodsy: take your pick
0:33 jas61292: raw. need that 51 Speed
0:33 Kadew: what are the level up move levels based on?
0:33 SgtWoodsy: alternative we can use a mixture
0:33 Quanyails: Alomomola.
0:33 SgtWoodsy: on
0:33 SgtWoodsy: ok*
0:33 SgtWoodsy: raw
0:34 jas61292: Need to outspeed Donphan
0:34 paint: GUYS THATS ENOUGH DEX
0:34 Birkal: need to outspeed donphan? why
0:34 Quanyails: Eh, Leer should be later. :P
0:34 jas61292: Because....
0:34 Quanyails: Or replaced.
0:34 Kadew: Never enough dex!
0:34 jas61292: It just does
0:34 Birkal: oh it gets power whip
0:34 Birkal: lol
0:35 SgtWoodsy: yeah
0:35 Birkal: I am trying to think of an offensive set I'd used
0:35 jas61292: And I vote for Birkal's dex entry
0:35 Birkal: ty jas
0:35 Deck Knight: Fist Plate Coil/Cross Chop/Slack Off/Shadow Claw
0:36 Birkal: jas, I'd rather go whatever Ghost Plate is on that set
0:36 SgtWoodsy: why does this thing have judgement quick attack
0:36 SgtWoodsy: again
0:36 Birkal: immunities and more power on shadow claw
0:36 Kadew: spooky plate
0:36 Birkal: yeah that
0:36 Birkal: this thing would wreck when paired with deo-d
0:36 Birkal: this might actually be OU
0:37 jas61292: Multitype is powerful, but I don't think any one set would be too ridiculous
0:37 Eagle4: yay kadew
0:38 Kadew: Green elitism goin gon in here
0:38 Eagle4: anyway, enough dex entries?
0:38 SgtWoodsy: yes
0:38 SgtWoodsy: more than enough
0:38 Eagle4: okay, let's vote
0:38 Eagle4: and stuff
0:38 Quanyails: Line 147.
0:38 SgtWoodsy: good lord
0:38 SgtWoodsy: we've been doing this for nearly 2 hours
0:38 Quanyails: Line 137.
0:38 Eagle4: Line 137
0:38 Birkal: lol
0:38 SgtWoodsy: 137
0:38 Birkal: I had a choir audition
0:38 Birkal: so I was productive :D
0:38 paint: agree 137
0:39 Timeblaze: How does that look for Egg Moves?
0:39 Quanyails: Darn it, they've been moved.
0:39 SgtWoodsy: 146*
0:39 Quanyails: Isn't Zen Headbutt a tutor move?
0:39 Eagle4: 146
0:39 paint: 3 7 12
0:40 Eagle4: 3 11 15
0:40 Quanyails: 3, 13, and, hmm...
0:40 Quanyails: 14.
0:40 Timeblaze: I don't think so.
0:40 Timeblaze: Let me check again.
0:40 SgtWoodsy: wait doesn't this thing need like
0:40 SgtWoodsy: four dex entries
0:40 Eagle4: actually, 3 8 14
0:40 Timeblaze: Oh, it is.
0:40 Kadew: 3
0:40 SgtWoodsy: b/w/b2/w2
0:41 Timeblaze: Should I add it?
0:41 jas61292: 3 8 13
0:41 SgtWoodsy: unless b2w2 have the same dex entry
0:41 Kadew: bw2 share entries
0:41 SgtWoodsy: oh ok
0:41 Fusxfaranto: 0 8 6 3
0:41 Eagle4: Let's delete the dex entries which stand no chance, to get a better idea
0:41 Kadew: we should tally the points by having a perosn put a ! in their color by each entry they vote for
0:41 Eagle4: good idea
0:41 Eagle4: 3 votes, right?
0:42 Kadew: multiple bold for now, id think
0:42 Kadew: then thin down the crap entries and see what we have
0:42 Kadew: everyone, cast a ! for each entry you like
0:44 Eagle4: done :)
0:44 Kadew: done.
0:44 Quanyails: 3, 6, 8, then?
0:44 Eagle4: okay
0:44 Birkal: 13!!!
0:44 Kadew: 6 and 13 are tied
0:44 Kadew: wait, someone deleted
0:44 Quanyails: Ah.
0:44 Kadew: so 3, 8, 13
0:44 Quanyails: Did I just see 6 go down a !?
0:44 Kadew: by the looks of it
0:44 Eagle4: okay
0:45 Quanyails: Righty, 3, 8, 13.
0:45 jas61292: Awesome
0:45 Quanyails: Woot!
0:46 Eagle4: delete all of the dex entries now
0:46 Timeblaze: Okay, let's delete the submissions to tidy it up.
0:46 Eagle4: except the ones which won
0:46 Timeblaze: Whoops
0:47 Eagle4: let's decide height and weight
0:47 Quanyails: :U
0:47 Kadew: Okay, I'm going to go clean up my official art
0:47 Eagle4: wooo
0:47 jas61292: 12'6''
0:47 Kadew: 6'11"
0:47 Quanyails: Well, with those dimensions, my sprite would look normal. :P
0:47 Timeblaze: 4'7"
0:48 Fusxfaranto: needs to be huuuuge
0:48 Eagle4: i have no idea how to work in feet and inches
0:48 Kadew: 2 foot 2 inches
0:48 Eagle4: CM woooo
0:48 Kadew: to represent that the original poster has 2 posts
0:48 Fusxfaranto: how about
0:48 Fusxfaranto: 22'2"
0:48 Kadew: or we could go for whatever equivalent 2 metres is
0:48 Quanyails: About six feet.
0:48 Quanyails: 6'2''?
0:48 Eagle4: 2m is way too large
0:48 Timeblaze: >The Yilx Pokemon
0:49 Quanyails: I'd go with jsut Chameleon. :P
0:49 Quanyails: just*
0:49 Quanyails: (Did I spell that right?)
0:49 Fusxfaranto: 2 miles
0:49 jas61292: 2'2'' and 22lbs
0:49 SgtWoodsy: are we nearly done here
0:50 Kadew: I like jas dimentions
0:50 Timeblaze: Almost, yeah
0:50 Kadew: small enough that the swinging from trees seems plausible
0:50 Fusxfaranto: that's too small though
0:50 Timeblaze: Also, which stats are we using?
0:50 Fusxfaranto: needs to be at least 6'
0:50 Fusxfaranto: the first set
0:50 Timeblaze: 5'5"
0:50 Kadew: a 6ft chameleon cannot swing from trees for fun
0:50 jas61292: ^
0:50 Fusxfaranto: yes it can
0:50 Timeblaze: 5'2"
0:50 jas61292: 2'5''
0:50 Kadew: it can swing trees around for fun
0:50 Kadew: but that's not the dex entry now is it
0:51 Kadew: dark purple is too dark
0:51 Kadew: fusx pick a ligher shade please
0:51 Fusxfaranto: there :p
0:51 Kadew: thankee
0:51 Birkal: what
0:51 Birkal: no cloyster quote
0:52 Birkal: bs
0:52 Timeblaze: Anything else we need to do?
0:52 Eagle4: haha birkal
0:52 Quanyails: It's there. O.o
0:52 Birkal: oh yeah
0:52 Timeblaze: Cloyster is there.
0:52 Birkal: :D :D :D
0:52 jas61292: Its the black one
0:52 Birkal: that was me
0:52 Timeblaze: Black entry.
0:52 Birkal: I did it
0:52 Birkal: :>
0:52 Eagle4: I did the swinging from branch one go me
0:52 Birkal: this looks awesome
0:52 Timeblaze: So, what about the artwork?
0:52 Birkal: good work team
0:52 Timeblaze: It's still... well, rough.
0:52 Eagle4: Thanks birkal
0:52 SgtWoodsy: i'll update the post later
0:52 SgtWoodsy: if there's better art
0:53 Eagle4: We posting this i cap kitchen?
0:53 Quanyails: Kadew's working on it.
0:53 Eagle4: in*
0:53 Kadew: I'm working on it
0:53 Kadew: lineart that doesnt suck takes a bit
0:53 SgtWoodsy: yeah eagle
0:53 Quanyails: And I'll add it to TV Tropes.
0:53 Eagle4: this has taken longer than i expected
0:53 Eagle4: because of the bloated movepool
0:54 Timeblaze: But it was fun.
0:54 Eagle4: it is very fun
0:54 Quanyails: First time I managed to participate in one of these. :)
0:54 Timeblaze: Froxbite, Cnidali, and now Chamereon.
0:54 Quanyails: Even if it was half-taken up by spriting.
0:55 Timeblaze: Now, if this thing was found in Unova, where would it be?
0:55 Fusxfaranto: heaven
0:55 jas61292: Deep in victory road
0:55 SgtWoodsy:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4567058&postcount=116
0:55 Kadew: unreleased dream world
0:55 Eagle4: idunno if this pokemon is OP or not
0:56 Eagle4: woo SgtWoodsy :)
0:56 Timeblaze: High Defenses + Slack Off + Multitype
0:56 Quanyails: A space is needed before Coil.
0:56 Timeblaze: And a wide movepool
0:56 jas61292: Its good, but any one set can only do so much
0:57 Eagle4: and lick, Quanyails :)
0:57 Timeblaze: I'm satisfied with the result.
0:57 Kadew: there should be a link to the original chamereon post in the post
0:57 Eagle4: ^
0:57 Kadew:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4422561&postcount=302
0:58 Eagle4: what CAP was that even in?
0:58 Eagle4: CAP 3?
0:58 Quanyails: Ah, should've made the ridge on its back larger.
0:58 SgtWoodsy: done
0:59 Quanyails: Mind if I adjust it, SgtWoodsy?
0:59 Kadew: that was for aurumoth
0:59 Eagle4: wow
0:59 Kadew: chamereon, if it had a final sub, coulda been aurumoth
0:59 Kadew: so the wide movepool is entirely valid
0:59 Timeblaze: I don't even know how that would be Bug/Psychic
0:59 jas61292: Yeah. The amazing bug/psychic chameleon
1:01 Quanyails:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4171/chamereon.png <-- Mind updating?
1:01 Eagle4: can anybody explain to me why this is associated with Yilx?
1:02 Quanyails: It's one of his memes.
1:02 Eagle4: also, good sprite quanyails
1:02 Eagle4: oh okay
1:03 Quanyails: Well, I'll be heading back to IRC.
1:03 Quanyails: See you all there!
