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The Cricket Thread Part Deux

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Apparently owais shah is not in the squad for the south african tour odis.

Is he injured or should the english selectors be facing match fixing charges?

Have a nice day.
 
I don't have much if any interest in the Champions League. But it seems like some big scoring matches are taking place,lol

any predictions on the India vs Aus series coming in about 2 weeks? I will predict after I see the Indian Squad. If both Yuvraj and Sehwag are fully fit. 5-2 India. If not its anyones game...
 
I have to admit, T&T are looking hugely competitive. I still say NSW or Vic will win this.

Currently going for Cape Cobras against Dehli Daredevils because this will mean NSW and Victoria dont play against each other in the semi (If Cobras win tonight) XD

Gooooo Cobras lol!
 
I think we can beat them, especially pakistan.

Selection is pretty tough. The top 5 is pretty obvious even though I dont think McIntosh has the technique to open in tests. I dont think he can be dropped unless there was someone really obvious pushing to take his place. The top candidate is probably Redmond, but tbh I dont think he has the technique to open in tests either..

The hard part is replacing Oram. I think McCullum at 6 and Vettori at 7 (or vice versa which I would prefer but seems unlikely) is pretty much the only way to do it. There is no one in the country who could be brought in that deserves to bat ahead of these two..

The bowling is kinda hard to select. Bond gets a place by virtue of being possibly the best fast bowler anywhere.

Then the next tier is Martin, OB and Tuffey. TBH I think Tuffey might be the best of these three, but he wont have much chance to force his selection before the first test. If we go with 4 seamers he could come in, but that does give us one hell of a long tail.

I doubt Patel will get selected, which I dunno, it seems unfair, but it also seems impossible he would make the side..

The only other option would be to pick an allrounder at 8, which means Franklin, or possibly Southee? I am really unsure about this position tbh..

Our bowling line up looks really good anyway. There would be perhaps a bit too much pressure on Bond to take wickets, which is kinda why I like Tuffey, as he seems more likely to be a wicket taker than the other two.

But basically it comes down to what our batting line up does. I still cant see them dominating too many games, but they might on a couple of occasions, and they might also be able to survive on most others.

Anyway, with bond back, I am really looking forward to it. At least until he injures himself again.

Have a nice day.
 
Pakistan, maybe, but not Australia. We're too crap at tests to even contend with the lineup they've got. Although, given their slightly sub-par-for-an-Australian-Ashes-team performance, we might have a shot.

McIntosh > Redmond methinks, I'm not a fan of Redmond and we don't have anyone else really. Man our depth is horrible.

We could potentially bring Broom into the test squad to replace Oram, despite giving us a slight bowling handicap. Franklin is probably more effective than Southee, and I really do rate him with the bat (the ball however...), so he'd be my top candidate for test playing.

Bond, O'Brien, Patel, Martin would be our best bowling attack, although I know the selectors are too stupid to realize that playing two quality spinners is actually better than playing another average pace bowler even when the ball isn't turning. I don't rate Tuffey, that opening over he bowled against Australia years ago has really stuck in my mind.

How much longer is Ryder out for? He's really the rock in the lower top order, and McCullum hasn't been playing too well as of late, so we really do need him there.
 
I think you are over-estimating Australia.

Remember last year we dismissed them in Brisbane for under 500 runs. It was just our woeful batting that was the issue there.. And we are much improved from then, and tbh Australia are weaker batting-wise than they were..

Is Patel actually a better bowler than Southee though? He certainly didnt do himself any favours by sucking nuts in SL.

I'm also kinda uncomfortable with the length of that tail. Even the best batting lineups rely on some runs from 8-11..

Have a nice day.
 
The woeful batting is always the problem with NZ though, the bowling is usually fairly consistent. And I do suppose their bowling has taken a drop, I mean Hauritz is their main spinner and he's nothing overly special. I think that Hilfenhaus will be the bane of our batting if he plays and if there's some hint of movement, especially after watching what he did in the Ashes. Not decimating by any means, but good enough to rile our solidly average batting lineup.

Do remember though, Sri Lanka are good players of spin, so that's nothing to judge him off.

Well considering probably half of our runs come from around 4-8 usually, it's a problem we've been faced with since the departure of Astle and Fleming.

Our batsmen need to be able to score hundreds (other than Vettori). >:
 
TanzAufDemVulkan said:
The woeful batting is always the problem with NZ though, the bowling is usually fairly consistent. And I do suppose their bowling has taken a drop, I mean Hauritz is their main spinner and he's nothing overly special. I think that Hilfenhaus will be the bane of our batting if he plays and if there's some hint of movement, especially after watching what he did in the Ashes. Not decimating by any means, but good enough to rile our solidly average batting lineup.

Do remember though, Sri Lanka are good players of spin, so that's nothing to judge him off.

Well considering probably half of our runs come from around 4-8 usually, it's a problem we've been faced with since the departure of Astle and Fleming.

Our batsmen need to be able to score hundreds (other than Vettori). >:
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I'd be more worried about Brett Lee possibly heading back into the test squad. He's had a good 20/20 series and appears almost 100% to me. Him and Johnson.
 
Yeah the NZ team over the last couple of years have been destroyed by a string of left handed bowlers, continuing into the sl series where they really failed miserably against Thushara.

Brett Lee.. I dont even know if he will make the test side.. Though it wouldnt be too much of a shock to see changes after losing the Ashes..

[edit] - Ok it's hard to succeed as a spinner against good players of spin, but when you are a specialist bowler and in the subcontinent you have to back yourself against them. The Pakistanis and a lot of the Australians are good players of spin as well, and the conditions in NZ shouldnt be nearly as useful..

Have a nice day.
 
Houndour said:
I'd be more worried about Brett Lee possibly heading back into the test squad. He's had a good 20/20 series and appears almost 100% to me. Him and Johnson.
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To be honest, I've found both Johnson and Lee to be highly overrated. I don't like watching either of them bowl, and they're both quite inconsistent (yes, I'm a NZer saying that, give me a break >_<).
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Yeah the NZ team over the last couple of years have been destroyed by a string of left handed bowlers, continuing into the sl series where they really failed miserably against Thushara.
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That was hilarious. And we're not the best players of spin either, so a mediocre spinner like Hauritz would have fun against us.
[edit] - Ok it's hard to succeed as a spinner against good players of spin, but when you are a specialist bowler and in the subcontinent you have to back yourself against them. The Pakistanis and a lot of the Australians are good players of spin as well, and the conditions in NZ shouldnt be nearly as useful..
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Very true. Although our pitches tend to be a tad green, so the spinners could have a bit of success there. Or is that just AMI stadium.

...speaking of which, a test in Christchurch would be nice.
 
I personally think that Johnson is the best allrounder in the world, his bowling has been great in the last year (for the most part) and is a pretty good late order Batsmen. That is why he is world cricketer of the year. Brett Lee is hot and cold but has been bowling well recently so I'd like to see him back in tests. Stuart Clark is my favourite Australian bowler though who definately should be in the team because of his consistentsy. Hilfenhaus and Siddle are ok, but we haven't had too much success since we have been using them. Nathan Hauritz was a huge suprise when he was selected for the team because at the time he was NSW reserve spinner behind Beau Casson. I was against him being in the squad at first, but he performed quite well on spinning wickets in the Ashes.

I never thought I'd say this, but go NSW in the 20/20 Champions League.
 
The_Chaser said:
I personally think that Johnson is the best allrounder in the world, his bowling has been great in the last year (for the most part) and is a pretty good late order Batsmen. That is why he is world cricketer of the year. Brett Lee is hot and cold but has been bowling well recently so I'd like to see him back in tests. Stuart Clark is my favourite Australian bowler though who definately should be in the team because of his consistentsy. Hilfenhaus and Siddle are ok, but we haven't had too much success since we have been using them. Nathan Hauritz was a huge suprise when he was selected for the team because at the time he was NSW reserve spinner behind Beau Casson. I was against him being in the squad at first, but he performed quite well on spinning wickets in the Ashes.

I never thought I'd say this, but go NSW in the 20/20 Champions League.
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Completely agree about Johnson. He's hitting his prime man.

NSW is in the box seat! T&T 4-48 needing 112 more from 82 balls. Gonna be an awesome finish.
 
Stuart Clark is my favourite Australian bowler though who definately should be in the team because of his consistentsy.
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I agree with this, although he has been out for a while due to injury and when he got to play that Ashes test he had a good first innings but poor second innings, so one might think he's still not used to playing tests again yet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...and-coach.html

Things are getting kinda interesting..
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Shit, didn't see that coming. Who will replace him, any thoughts?
 
I really have no idea.. I'm a fan of Rixon, and he wants the job, but it seems unlikely..

Of course there is Wright, who would be a shoe in if he actually wants to do it.

Have a nice day.
 
Well done to NSW who won the 20/20 Champions League, I really expected them to win though. They have an absolute amazing and star studded team - they also have Shane Watson, Michael Clarke, Brad Haddin who didn't even play in the tournament.

I didn't even know who NZ former coach was.
 
The_Chaser said:
Well done to NSW who won the 20/20 Champions League, I really expected them to win though. They have an absolute amazing and star studded team - they also have Shane Watson, Michael Clarke, Brad Haddin who didn't even play in the tournament.

I didn't even know who NZ former coach was.
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Isnt Shane Watson a QLDer?

Anyways, Yea, I stayed up and watched it. The match was awesome! Pollard is a beast. XD
 
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